IT'S LIKELY: Bronny James is 18 and short (about 6'1/2" barefoot) so his size+skills won't make him a real nba player

[watch1958]

Steph Curry.

Klay Thompson also. 2 guys on the same team

Edit: Oh, we're only talking about "all time legend players"? Well yeah, of course. The odds of anyone being better than an all time legend is by default almost impossible.

The odds of their child being better than them is even smaller.

It's not because the offspring are unmotivated so much as it is because the statistical chance of anyone being a top 50 all time NBA player are astronomically small.

Steph and Klay's fathers were still wealthy by almost any standard though. Steph is also 6'2'' odd and was considered to lack athleticism.

Andrew Wiggins. That’s 3 on the same team.

[Airmiess]

He looks like a potential pro level prospect, just not a star, because yaknow some players have to be in supporting roles ?
I thought this was a mock GM website..

There would be no Tony Allens or GP2’s if every guard was supposed to be Chris Paul or Lillard.

[Optms]

Lol. He can easily be 6'5-6'6 barefoot by age 20. He's on a fine trajectory, his problem is he's not driven enough.

He was born with a golden spoon in his mouth. Of course he will won't have the same hunger someone with lesser opportunities had.

[Duke4life831]

He already looks NBA ready to me. And the dude can fly so I don't think his height will matter that much.

I dont think even the majority of huge Bronny supporters consider him to be "already NBA ready" (physically or skill set). Dude still has a long ways to go.

[Pelly24]

I watched Bronny pretty much his whole high school career. The height is only a problem because of his level of skill and his type of athleticism. He's 6'2" barefoot but is essentially a wing who is unable to handle the ball. He's got no flexibility in his moves, his first step/overall agility with the ball is pretty much nonexistent so he was never able to be a consistently dominant player. Even after his great run in Peach Jam, he followed it up with a few pedestrian games in vegas, got dominated by another AAU team. He lost the ball and had people rip him so much over his career it was crazy, I think it has something to do with his posture or his build. The ball is too high when he dribbles. If you can't consistently beat guys off the dribble at 6'2,"" it's very hard to be great, but he was still a very good player. If he had the handle and mobility of even a mid major guard, he'd be infinitely better than he is now and easily make the NBA. He does all the little things, but his actual talent with the ball, when he's not passing, is kind of limited.

He's a solid shooter, but very streaky. He needs to spend every minute working on agility and handle and jumper because he's undersized. But lebron will get him a shot in the league.

Thank you. This is what people don't get talking about his height. He has the game of an NBA wing in the body of an NBA guard. He needs to either get an NBA wing's body or an NBA guard's game. Dunno if it's even possible for him to develop the latter at this stage in his career, so he really needs to grow into a body that suits his game. Even at 6'6" he can make it as a high level contributor like a worse version of Lonzo or something. At 6'3" he's not likely to make it as much more than a gimmick unfortunately.

Yeah it's interesting. People here are mentioning Austin Rivers, but he was like the No. 2 player in the class of 2011, had a bigger frame than Bronny and had one of the quickest first steps in the nation and could score at will.

All that said, I actually think that, while LeBron will probably be the main reason Bronny gets a shot, bronny can become an NBA player on his own merits by the time he's 20. He's the type of player who will continually get better, IMO. He's *way* better now than he was last summer, which is probably in part because he was recovering from an MCL injury last year. If Bronny fills out, develops a functional handle -- like even say, an average D-1 handle and lower body flexibility -- I think he can be a first-rounder and have a great college career. I think his ultimate, completely unlikely ceiling is like Marcus Smart (huge reach). But i could see Bronny being like a DeAnthony Melton or a GPII or Bruce Brown. A 6'2" guard who can play great defense and get opportunistic buckets. Bronny is a better shooter than all of these guys even, but what also makes him very different from them is that he's got an *elite* IQ. I actually think ppl might underrate this a bit. When I watch him, he rarely ever makes the wrong play. If you can play defense, hit shots and you've got a great IQ, you can make the NBA.

We'll see though. I expect Bronny to improve a lot over the next year, then have a really good freshman year as a contributor before being a 10-12 ppg/ 5 assists and 5 rebounds with good defense kind of guy. We'll see.


If he were 6'6" i actually would guarantee Bronny would have a long NBA career. He'd be like a higher IQ version of Pat Connaughton with more instinctive shot-making abilities.

[DoctorX]

Lol. He can easily be 6'5-6'6 barefoot by age 20. He's on a fine trajectory, his problem is he's not driven enough.

Very few people grow after age 18. I doubt he will grow after he turns 18.

[Heej]

I watched Bronny pretty much his whole high school career. The height is only a problem because of his level of skill and his type of athleticism. He's 6'2" barefoot but is essentially a wing who is unable to handle the ball. He's got no flexibility in his moves, his first step/overall agility with the ball is pretty much nonexistent so he was never able to be a consistently dominant player. Even after his great run in Peach Jam, he followed it up with a few pedestrian games in vegas, got dominated by another AAU team. He lost the ball and had people rip him so much over his career it was crazy, I think it has something to do with his posture or his build. The ball is too high when he dribbles. If you can't consistently beat guys off the dribble at 6'2,"" it's very hard to be great, but he was still a very good player. If he had the handle and mobility of even a mid major guard, he'd be infinitely better than he is now and easily make the NBA. He does all the little things, but his actual talent with the ball, when he's not passing, is kind of limited.

He's a solid shooter, but very streaky. He needs to spend every minute working on agility and handle and jumper because he's undersized. But lebron will get him a shot in the league.

Thank you. This is what people don't get talking about his height. He has the game of an NBA wing in the body of an NBA guard. He needs to either get an NBA wing's body or an NBA guard's game. Dunno if it's even possible for him to develop the latter at this stage in his career, so he really needs to grow into a body that suits his game. Even at 6'6" he can make it as a high level contributor like a worse version of Lonzo or something. At 6'3" he's not likely to make it as much more than a gimmick unfortunately.

Yeah it's interesting. People here are mentioning Austin Rivers, but he was like the No. 2 player in the class of 2011, had a bigger frame than Bronny and had one of the quickest first steps in the nation and could score at will.

All that said, I actually think that, while LeBron will probably be the main reason Bronny gets a shot, bronny can become an NBA player on his own merits by the time he's 20. He's the type of player who will continually get better, IMO. He's *way* better now than he was last summer, which is probably in part because he was recovering from an MCL injury last year. If Bronny fills out, develops a functional handle -- like even say, an average D-1 handle and lower body flexibility -- I think he can be a first-rounder and have a great college career. I think his ultimate, completely unlikely ceiling is like Marcus Smart (huge reach). But i could see Bronny being like a DeAnthony Melton or a GPII or Bruce Brown. A 6'2" guard who can play great defense and get opportunistic buckets. Bronny is a better shooter than all of these guys even, but what also makes him very different from them is that he's got an *elite* IQ. I actually think ppl might underrate this a bit. When I watch him, he rarely ever makes the wrong play. If you can play defense, hit shots and you've got a great IQ, you can make the NBA.

We'll see though. I expect Bronny to improve a lot over the next year, then have a really good freshman year as a contributor before being a 10-12 ppg/ 5 assists and 5 rebounds with good defense kind of guy. We'll see.


If he were 6'6" i actually would guarantee Bronny would have a long NBA career. He'd be like a higher IQ version of Pat Connaughton with more instinctive shot-making abilities.

Yeah ya know I gotta say watching some of the latest Peach Jam stuff he's better than I remember. He has that John Wall-esque "swiftness" to him where he revs up to max speed quickly and controls it easily. Don't see a lotta people moving that fast while looking so effortless. I agree it's really just his lack of "wiggle" to use a football term that's holding him back. He's got a lot of good qualities to him, probably more than I originally gave him credit for (IQ and ability to improve is a great point), but he's really missing 1 of the 2 defining qualities he needs to succeed at that NBA level. Kid needs either more size or shiftier handles, and idk if Bron is gonna be able to help him much with either one more than he already has.

[ANTETOKOUNBROS]

I saw a documentary last year, I thought he was trying to be a software engineer/game developer? 6 ft 3 is plenty for that.

[-HB-]

I saw a documentary last year, I thought he was trying to be a software engineer/game developer? 6 ft 3 is plenty for that.

Space Jam?

[Pelly24]

Thank you. This is what people don't get talking about his height. He has the game of an NBA wing in the body of an NBA guard. He needs to either get an NBA wing's body or an NBA guard's game. Dunno if it's even possible for him to develop the latter at this stage in his career, so he really needs to grow into a body that suits his game. Even at 6'6" he can make it as a high level contributor like a worse version of Lonzo or something. At 6'3" he's not likely to make it as much more than a gimmick unfortunately.

Yeah it's interesting. People here are mentioning Austin Rivers, but he was like the No. 2 player in the class of 2011, had a bigger frame than Bronny and had one of the quickest first steps in the nation and could score at will.

All that said, I actually think that, while LeBron will probably be the main reason Bronny gets a shot, bronny can become an NBA player on his own merits by the time he's 20. He's the type of player who will continually get better, IMO. He's *way* better now than he was last summer, which is probably in part because he was recovering from an MCL injury last year. If Bronny fills out, develops a functional handle -- like even say, an average D-1 handle and lower body flexibility -- I think he can be a first-rounder and have a great college career. I think his ultimate, completely unlikely ceiling is like Marcus Smart (huge reach). But i could see Bronny being like a DeAnthony Melton or a GPII or Bruce Brown. A 6'2" guard who can play great defense and get opportunistic buckets. Bronny is a better shooter than all of these guys even, but what also makes him very different from them is that he's got an *elite* IQ. I actually think ppl might underrate this a bit. When I watch him, he rarely ever makes the wrong play. If you can play defense, hit shots and you've got a great IQ, you can make the NBA.

We'll see though. I expect Bronny to improve a lot over the next year, then have a really good freshman year as a contributor before being a 10-12 ppg/ 5 assists and 5 rebounds with good defense kind of guy. We'll see.


If he were 6'6" i actually would guarantee Bronny would have a long NBA career. He'd be like a higher IQ version of Pat Connaughton with more instinctive shot-making abilities.

Yeah ya know I gotta say watching some of the latest Peach Jam stuff he's better than I remember. He has that John Wall-esque "swiftness" to him where he revs up to max speed quickly and controls it easily. Don't see a lotta people moving that fast while looking so effortless. I agree it's really just his lack of "wiggle" to use a football term that's holding him back. He's got a lot of good qualities to him, probably more than I originally gave him credit for (IQ and ability to improve is a great point), but he's really missing 1 of the 2 defining qualities he needs to succeed at that NBA level. Kid needs either more size or shiftier handles, and idk if Bron is gonna be able to help him much with either one more than he already has.

Yeah he's got good straight line speed, especially in the open court. I think the lack of wiggle might just be an athletic problem. His feet seem heavy sometimes. Needs to do a bunch of high-knees and agility work, maybe work out with SC football team, or a movement coach to work on the flexibility of his feet and or range of motion or something. I'm not sure how to describe it.

He looks like he's done growing, but maybe he'll get bulkier.

[User_friendly]

If he has the skill level of Trae Young he has a bright future ahead of him.
If he has the skill level of his father, I doubt it. I mean the height/size difference is huge, so unless he has insane athletism.....

[Dupp]

ITT: a lot of people who have 0 knowledge of this player or hs basketball saying stuff

Having 0 knowledge of hs basketball isn’t a bad thing….

[ChuckChilly]

Maybe he should have tried playing football.

[JShuttlesworth]

I'm curious to see where he goes to college

[Pennebaker]

He already looks NBA ready to me. And the dude can fly so I don't think his height will matter that much.

I dont think even the majority of huge Bronny supporters consider him to be "already NBA ready" (physically or skill set). Dude still has a long ways to go.

I didn't say "already NBA ready." I said "already looks NBA ready." Look at that picture again. His neck is the circumference of my thigh. If you didn't know who he was and someone said he was a rookie on the Blazers you might believe them.

[mediocrityrules]

I saw a documentary last year, I thought he was trying to be a software engineer/game developer? 6 ft 3 is plenty for that.

Well at least there is somewhere that he can still develop his game because it's not likely to be on an NBA floor

[JN61]

Lol. He can easily be 6'5-6'6 barefoot by age 20. He's on a fine trajectory, his problem is he's not driven enough.

Very few people grow after age 18. I doubt he will grow after he turns 18.

Actually a lot of men do grow up tiny bit after that, it's quite common in fact among men. But yes. If he is now 6'3 it's probably safe to say he won't go over 6'4. We aren't talking about puberty here.

[michaelm]

Klay Thompson also. 2 guys on the same team

Edit: Oh, we're only talking about "all time legend players"? Well yeah, of course. The odds of anyone being better than an all time legend is by default almost impossible.

The odds of their child being better than them is even smaller.

It's not because the offspring are unmotivated so much as it is because the statistical chance of anyone being a top 50 all time NBA player are astronomically small.

Steph and Klay's fathers were still wealthy by almost any standard though. Steph is also 6'2'' odd and was considered to lack athleticism.

Andrew Wiggins. That’s 3 on the same team.

4 in their most recent season actually, GPII as well. So over 25% of the roster and 60% of the starters on the most recent title winning team.

Even talking legends 2 of the players who are imo top 20 players of all time, Kobe Bryant and Steph Curry, had fathers who were decent NBA players, although legends who were sons of legends is a different discussion and a higher bar as has been said.

Iirc there is data which supports that being the son of a professional sportsman significantly increases your chances of making it in that sport. In basketball if it is extended beyond sons of NBA players to sons of professional basketball players this would increase the numbers further to include the likes of Kyrie Irving and Ben Simmons.

[shangrila]

I followed him since he was 9 or so

Beat me to it.

This sort of **** is just creepy.

[yoyoboy]

Bryce will be the real prize. He’s going to be a lot taller than Bronny. Bronny has a nice all-around game but unfortunately he’s not enough of a creator for how short he is (NBA wise). His handle and first step aren’t good at his size, and he doesn’t make up for it by being exceptional in other areas. He’ll get drafted probably even in the first round regardless of how he performs in college just because he has the James name and he obviously has some talent. But without the name, I honestly don’t think he’s a legitimate NBA prospect, at least based on what he’s shown so far.

That being said it’s unfair to the kid that he NEEDS to be some great NBA player just because his dad was. I’m sure he works plenty hard. He seems like a great kid. It’s just extremely difficult to turn into a great NBA player when you’re only 6’2-6’3. You need to be absurdly skilled and athletic relative to the competition at that point. It becomes a different story when you even get up to like 6’6 or so, where the pool at that height is smaller, and that additional size can really make up for what you lack and not mandate that you’re as talented.