The Eric Paschall Thread

Rookie-Mistake · Post #61 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:44 am

Gee we have added some thickness to this team!
Is he the first ever Eric to be a T Wolf?

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minimus · Post #62 » by **minimus** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:18 am

winforlose wrote:Good article about his perimeter defense. I am telling you guys, this is a solid pickup. https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/11/08/eric-paschall-is-remaking/

I wonder if he can shed some weight down to 240-245lbs and become our version of PJ Tucker

SO_MONEY · Post #63 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:41 pm

SO_MONEY · Post #64 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:41 pm

winforlose wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:Yes. Two-way contract = restricted free agent.

For some reason I thought he had 4 years, but then he couldn't sign a 2WC could he, since he only has 3 you both are correct. My bad.

No worries. You are usually better at this stuff than me anyway. What is your opinion of the signing?

It is an excellent signing.

Zonarosa · Post #65 » by **Zonarosa** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:18 pm

I like the dude, but with two-ways going back to being limited in the number of games they can appear I’m guessing you won’t see him much at all this year.

winforlose · Post #66 » by **winforlose** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:28 pm

Zonarosa wrote:I like the dude, but with two-ways going back to being limited in the number of games they can appear I’m guessing you won’t see him much at all this year.

You can use the link to read the whole article if you like. Here is the relevant bit

“ The NBA has carried over some rule changes for two-way deals that were first introduced during the 2020/21 season. Rather than being limited to 45 days with their NBA teams, two-way players are eligible to be active for up to 50 of their team’s 82 regular season games. And instead of having their salaries determined by how many days they spend in the NBA, they’ll receive flat salaries of $508,891, half of the rookie minimum.”

Worth noting we are so deep the reason we might not see him much has nothing to do with two way rules.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/2022-23-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

Post #67 » by **Clav** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:53 pm

Paschall is a solid signing. I got to catch some of his games as a Warrior / Jazz and yeah, he's a big body down there, plays with energy often and gets hustle points. What Paschall struggles with is lengthy defenders and if there are big offensive presences dominating usage he can get lost without generating offense. Has a good knack for rebounding and he's extending his range. I thought for sure he would be picked up with a guaranteed contract 4y/12M (TOyr4) something like that... This is excellent news for the T-Wolves.

winforlose · Post #68 » by **winforlose** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:05 pm

Clav wrote:Paschall is a solid signing. I got to catch some of his games as a Warrior / Jazz and yeah, he's a big body down there, plays with energy often and gets hustle points. What Paschall struggles with is lengthy defenders and if there are big offensive presences dominating usage he can get lost without generating offense. Has a good knack for rebounding and he's extending his range. I thought for sure he would be picked up with a guaranteed contract 4y/12M (TOyr4) something like that... This is excellent news for the T-Wolves.

I agree. I was doing some reading and it seems Steve Kerr thought he was better at PF than SF. Part of that seemed to be that EP could use his speed to get by the opposing PF and then not have anyone waiting for him in the paint. Where as an SF he would often have to deal with a PF. My question is more about defense than offense. Is he quick enough to guard opposing SFs? Also, when you say get lost without generating offense, how was he in Utah with catch and shoot 3s, especially from the corners?

Post #69 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:39 pm

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Gee we have added some thickness to this team!
Is he the first ever Eric to be a T Wolf?

You forgot the 25 games of Eric Riley in the 1995-96 season

Rookie-Mistake · Post #70 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:32 pm

Hopefully we get more than 25 out of Eric.

Klomp wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Gee we have added some thickness to this team!
Is he the first ever Eric to be a T Wolf?

You forgot the 25 games of Eric Riley in the 1995-96 season

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shrink · Post #71 » by **shrink** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:35 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Is he the first ever Eric to be a T Wolf?

Does Eric Musselman count?

Shaka_Zulu · Post #72 » by **Shaka_Zulu** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:09 pm

This is a really suprising get and shocking signing for 2-way, I missed the news completely. Log onto realGM and see there is a Paschall thread here? I had to re-check, I thought for a second I accidently clicked on the Jazz forum.

If he wont be limited to just few games of old rules, and eligible for 50 games, then this is a supreme quality depth signing.

But like someone else said, why didnt we just give 2-way to Knight, who has zero hope of playing for us unless for serious injuries, and just give roster spot to Paschall? The talent level between them is fairly big.

Nick K · Post #73 » by **Nick K** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:40 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I think you are a bit over the top with your dislike of Rivers. IMO he was a very good signing.

Not about Rivers. Assuming we keep Knight (a move I dislike a LOT,) I am just higher on Forbes than Rivers, and Rivers money is only 650k guaranteed. I just feel incredibly strongly that we need another PG. Preferably one who can start when Dlo is out. I don’t want JMAC or Nowell starting in those situations.

I think Rivers can play some PG in a pinch. I know he's not ideal for big minutes there.

That's right. This offense doesn't call for a traditional "set the table" PG. Rivers can handle the ball just fine as he's been a PG all his life growing up. Just like daddy

winforlose · Post #74 » by **winforlose** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:08 pm

Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Not about Rivers. Assuming we keep Knight (a move I dislike a LOT,) I am just higher on Forbes than Rivers, and Rivers money is only 650k guaranteed. I just feel incredibly strongly that we need another PG. Preferably one who can start when Dlo is out. I don’t want JMAC or Nowell starting in those situations.

I think Rivers can play some PG in a pinch. I know he's not ideal for big minutes there.

That's right. This offense doesn't call for a traditional "set the table" PG. Rivers can handle the ball just fine as he's been a PG all his life growing up. Just like daddy

To get the most out of Rudy it kinda does. Also, what happens when Dlo is out for a while. Are you good with starting JMAC? Then what, Rivers plays 15 minutes at PG? We don’t really need someone who can fill in for spot minutes, we need a legit PG2.

Biff Cooper · Post #75 » by **Biff Cooper** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:24 pm

theGreatRC wrote:My question is, what happened to his career? 14ppg his rookie year, all-first team..2 years later he's a 2 way guy?

Kind of weird. I'm hoping that he had offers for a full deal somewhere, but passed on them for the opportunity to play on an NBA Championship Team on a two way deal.

The All-Rookie team isn't all that big of a deal to me. Out of 100 voters for the all rookie team, he got 0 first place votes, 0 second place votes, and 2 third place votes. It's not like he was in contention to be named ROY above Ja, Zion, Nunn, Clarke, etc.

Zonarosa · Post #76 » by **Zonarosa** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:17 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:My question is, what happened to his career? 14ppg his rookie year, all-first team..2 years later he's a 2 way guy?

Kind of weird. I'm hoping that he had offers for a full deal somewhere, but passed on them for the opportunity to play on an NBA Championship Team on a two way deal.

The All-Rookie team isn't all that big of a deal to me. Out of 100 voters for the all rookie team, he got 0 first place votes, 0 second place votes, and 2 third place votes. It's not like he was in contention to be named ROY above Ja, Zion, Nunn, Clarke, etc.

his rookie season also came on a 15-win disaster of a team with klay and steph out for the entire year.

The rumor was a week or two ago that he’d been nearing a deal with panathinaikos because there wasn’t any interest here.

King Malta · Post #77 » by **King Malta** » Mon Aug 1, 2022 6:59 am

His rookie numbers are definitely misleading given the state out of that Dubs team. I do think there's a handy depth player in there though, if developed correctly, and I'm pretty pleased that we've been able to get him on a two way.

We're not going to win as many games as we would hope if we need to chuck Paschall out there for 15 minutes in 82 games, but he's handy enough to be able to cover an injury here or there or contribute some spot minutes.

winforlose · Post #78 » by **winforlose** » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:06 am

King Malta wrote:His rookie numbers are definitely misleading given the state out of that Dubs team. I do think there's a handy depth player in there though, if developed correctly, and I'm pretty pleased that we've been able to get him on a two way.

We're not going to win as many games as we would hope if we need to chuck Paschall out there for 15 minutes in 82 games, but he's handy enough to be able to cover an injury here or there or contribute some spot minutes.

I agree. In theory he isn’t even top 3 in the depth chart. Either MCD or Knight would be 3rd string PF and Ant could easily cover 3rd string SF. As for C Paschall is probably 5th string. The reason to celebrate a signing like this isn’t about the rotation, it is about the emergency depth.

Post #79 » by **Klomp** » Mon Aug 1, 2022 4:43 pm

winforlose wrote:
Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I think Rivers can play some PG in a pinch. I know he's not ideal for big minutes there.

That's right. This offense doesn't call for a traditional "set the table" PG. Rivers can handle the ball just fine as he's been a PG all his life growing up. Just like daddy

To get the most out of Rudy it kinda does. Also, what happens when Dlo is out for a while. Are you good with starting JMAC? Then what, Rivers plays 15 minutes at PG? We don’t really need someone who can fill in for spot minutes, we need a legit PG2.

McLaughlin is a legit No. 2 PG and would be just fine as a fill in.

Post #80 » by **Klomp** » Mon Aug 1, 2022 4:47 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:The All-Rookie team isn't all that big of a deal to me. Out of 100 voters for the all rookie team, he got 0 first place votes, 0 second place votes, and 2 third place votes. It's not like he was in contention to be named ROY above Ja, Zion, Nunn, Clarke, etc.

No but he had a better rookie year than Tyler Herro (Miami), Coby White (Chicago), RJ Barrett (New York), Darius Garland (Cleveland), De’Andre Hunter (Atlanta), Michael Porter Jr. (Denver) and Cameron Johnson (Phoenix), among others.