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Post#481 » by shrink » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:30 am

winforlose wrote:Anyone care to comment on this?

“ D’Angelo Russell: The @nba is full of athletes not Basketball players. #Respectfully 7 hours ago – via Twitter Dloading”

A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#482 » by fattymcgee » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:30 pm

shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:Anyone care to comment on this?

“ D’Angelo Russell: The @nba is full of athletes not Basketball players. #Respectfully 7 hours ago – via Twitter Dloading”

A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.


D'Lo is not wrong, but like you said, the best players are both athletes and skilled.
This is why there are more athletes because teams want to develop potential.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#483 » by younggunsmn » Mon Aug 1, 2022 6:46 am

shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:Anyone care to comment on this?

“ D’Angelo Russell: The @nba is full of athletes not Basketball players. #Respectfully 7 hours ago – via Twitter Dloading”

A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.


I can't disagree more with Russell's comment when the amount of shooting skill in the league has skyrocketed over the last 10 years to the point even a true 5 can get played off the floor.

Maybe he should spend more time working on his body to become a better athlete and put some meat on those little chicken legs so he doesn't end up being the worst player on the floor in a playoff series again.

Because skill or athleticism alone will only take you so far.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#484 » by KGdaBom » Mon Aug 1, 2022 3:22 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:Anyone care to comment on this?

“ D’Angelo Russell: The @nba is full of athletes not Basketball players. #Respectfully 7 hours ago – via Twitter Dloading”

A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.


I can't disagree more with Russell's comment when the amount of shooting skill in the league has skyrocketed over the last 10 years to the point even a true 5 can get played off the floor.

Maybe he should spend more time working on his body to become a better athlete and put some meat on those little chicken legs so he doesn't end up being the worst player on the floor in a playoff series again.

Because skill or athleticism alone will only take you so far.

Shooting is just one of many skills needed to be a good NBA player. I 100% agree with Russell on there being many athletes in the NBA that aren't particularly skilled.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#485 » by Nick K » Mon Aug 1, 2022 3:47 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
shrink wrote:A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.


I can't disagree more with Russell's comment when the amount of shooting skill in the league has skyrocketed over the last 10 years to the point even a true 5 can get played off the floor.

Maybe he should spend more time working on his body to become a better athlete and put some meat on those little chicken legs so he doesn't end up being the worst player on the floor in a playoff series again.

Because skill or athleticism alone will only take you so far.

Shooting is just one of many skills needed to be a good NBA player. I 100% agree with Russell on there being many athletes in the NBA that aren't particularly skilled.


Yep. It's great to be both but there are so many guys that can jump out of the gym who can't even do the fundamentals.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#486 » by minimus » Mon Aug 1, 2022 3:56 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:Anyone care to comment on this?

“ D’Angelo Russell: The @nba is full of athletes not Basketball players. #Respectfully 7 hours ago – via Twitter Dloading”

A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.


I can't disagree more with Russell's comment when the amount of shooting skill in the league has skyrocketed over the last 10 years to the point even a true 5 can get played off the floor.

Maybe he should spend more time working on his body to become a better athlete and put some meat on those little chicken legs so he doesn't end up being the worst player on the floor in a playoff series again.

Because skill or athleticism alone will only take you so far.


I will be happy if Russell will work on his body to avoid being injured for multiple games every damn season. I don't expect a wonders from him, just be available every game and provide consistency at PG.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#487 » by Rookie-Mistake » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:27 pm

Unfortunately for him. He is neither.
winforlose wrote:Anyone care to comment on this?

“ D’Angelo Russell: The @nba is full of athletes not Basketball players. #Respectfully 7 hours ago – via Twitter Dloading”


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Post#488 » by Neeva » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:49 pm

There are a lot of streaky chuckers in the league as well, Dlo is one of those.
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Post#489 » by Dewey » Mon Aug 1, 2022 8:09 pm

minimus wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
shrink wrote:A below NBA-average athlete trying to make “athlete” an insult.

The best NBA players are both basketball players AND athletes.


I can't disagree more with Russell's comment when the amount of shooting skill in the league has skyrocketed over the last 10 years to the point even a true 5 can get played off the floor.

Maybe he should spend more time working on his body to become a better athlete and put some meat on those little chicken legs so he doesn't end up being the worst player on the floor in a playoff series again.

Because skill or athleticism alone will only take you so far.


I will be happy if Russell will work on his body to avoid being injured for multiple games every damn season. I don't expect a wonders from him, just be available every game and provide consistency at PG.

Ya … takes work to add muscle, but still, he needs to find some grit and mental toughness … then stay healthy. He’s gotta know by now every team is going to be physical with since he don’t have that ability to beat you with speed/power.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#490 » by minimus » Fri Aug 5, 2022 7:43 am

Absolutely fantastic content!

Read on Twitter
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Post#491 » by Colbinii » Fri Aug 5, 2022 3:51 pm

minimus wrote:Absolutely fantastic content!

Read on Twitter
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Yup!

Its easy to hate on Dlo on court but he has grown into a real adult since the Lakers debacle. Good listen.
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Post#492 » by shrink » Sat Aug 6, 2022 1:18 pm

I give Russell a lot of credit for going on Dane’s show. He didn’t have to do that.

Two things bothered me though:

1. Dane seemed to be overly-excited, and didn’t give DLo a chance to respond to many long winded questions. I like Dane, but having DLo on was an opportunity, and I would have liked to hear more from Russell.

2. I wish DLo had been more committed to being a Timberwolf. He’s a smart guy, and I think that since he was traded so much, he definitely realizes the NBA is a business, and he doesn’t take it personally when he keeps getting traded. But of all the people who should be excited about adding Gobert, DLo should be at the top of the list, for team success as well as his own in a contract year. I expected to hear him ranting about how excited he was for this opportunity, and he didn’t do that. Maybe that’s leverage for a guy looking for an extension, or maybe he’s just being honest. However, I think going on a fan-show and telling the fans how much he loves the team and wants to be here would play well with the public, particularly the segment of fans who don’t like him.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#493 » by winforlose » Sat Aug 6, 2022 1:30 pm

shrink wrote:I give Russell a lot of credit for going on Dane’s show. He didn’t have to do that.

Two things bothered me though:

1. Dane seemed to be overly-excited, and didn’t give DLo a chance to respond to many long winded questions. I like Dane, but having DLo on was an opportunity, and I would have liked to hear more from Russell.

2. I wish DLo had been more committed to being a Timberwolf. He’s a smart guy, and I think that since he was traded so much, he definitely realizes the NBA is a business, and he doesn’t take it personally when he keeps getting traded. But of all the people who should be excited about adding Gobert, DLo should be at the top of the list, for team success as well as his own in a contract year. I expected to hear him ranting about how excited he was for this opportunity, and he didn’t do that. Maybe that’s leverage for a guy looking for an extension, or maybe he’s just being honest. However, I think going on a fan-show and telling the fans how much he loves the team and wants to be here would play well with the public, particularly the segment of fans who don’t like him.


1. I noticed that as well. Dlo seemed annoyed at times. Also, some of Dane’s points were a little insulting, and Dlo seemed to notice them too. I don’t mean to say that Dane was insulting Dlo, but the matter of fact way he suggested that Dlo was moved before teams went all in had some biting implications. Overall, it wasn’t a bad interview, but at times felt a little awkward.

2. I think Dlo is committed to being a Wolf. He came out and said he wants to extend here. The problem is, he thinks he is more valuable than he is. Streaky shooting and a need to get a lot of shots up is a major problem for a starting PG on a playoff team. Worse still, he is the fourth option now that Ant, KAT, and Rudy are the big 3. The real question for Dlo is whether he cares enough that he is willing to sign a short term extension or a discounted long term extension to keep the band together. I think on the pod he was just trying to keep his cards close to the vest for negotiating purposes.
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Post#494 » by Klomp » Mon Aug 8, 2022 5:25 pm

We often talk about the pick and roll between Russell and Gobert as a way that Russell can unlock Gobert, but I think we need to also watch if Gobert can unlock Russell, since Gobert attracts a lot of attention. I was hoping numbers would bear that out with FGs at the rim, both for Russell playing with Jarrett Allen in Brooklyn and Conley playing with Gobert in Utah. It did not. But that could just be due to systematic differences and a situation where the eye test doesn't carry over to the stat sheet.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#495 » by shrink » Mon Aug 8, 2022 5:35 pm

Klomp wrote:We often talk about the pick and roll between Russell and Gobert as a way that Russell can unlock Gobert, but I think we need to also watch if Gobert can unlock Russell, since Gobert attracts a lot of attention. I was hoping numbers would bear that out with FGs at the rim, both for Russell playing with Jarrett Allen in Brooklyn and Conley playing with Gobert in Utah. It did not. But that could just be due to systematic differences and a situation where the eye test doesn't carry over to the stat sheet.

The way I see it, Russell is a great passer and a good shooter, especially at the midrange, but he isn’t athletic. Gobert’s ability to catch DLo lobs will help Rudy score, but Rudy sets some of the best screens in the NBA, which is exactly what an unathletic DLo needs to get open. I don’t think we’ll ever see him going to the rim all the time, but his open midrange pull ups should see a big FG% improvement.
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Post#496 » by wolves_89 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 9:09 pm

shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote:We often talk about the pick and roll between Russell and Gobert as a way that Russell can unlock Gobert, but I think we need to also watch if Gobert can unlock Russell, since Gobert attracts a lot of attention. I was hoping numbers would bear that out with FGs at the rim, both for Russell playing with Jarrett Allen in Brooklyn and Conley playing with Gobert in Utah. It did not. But that could just be due to systematic differences and a situation where the eye test doesn't carry over to the stat sheet.

The way I see it, Russell is a great passer and a good shooter, especially at the midrange, but he isn’t athletic. Gobert’s ability to catch DLo lobs will help Rudy score, but Rudy sets some of the best screens in the NBA, which is exactly what an unathletic DLo needs to get open. I don’t think we’ll ever see him going to the rim all the time, but his open midrange pull ups should see a big FG% improvement.


I think there is a very good chance that the coming season will be the best of DLO's career. I can see Finch making adjustments to maximize the DLO/Gobert pairing, especially when Ewards/Towns are off the floor. Add in that it's a contract year, and it seems like everything is aligned for a DLO to make a solid jump in production. I'm skeptical that he can get to a level that would justify a max deal, but I could see his performance making a $120M/4 year contract seem like a reasonable idea.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#497 » by Nick K » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:13 pm

shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote:We often talk about the pick and roll between Russell and Gobert as a way that Russell can unlock Gobert, but I think we need to also watch if Gobert can unlock Russell, since Gobert attracts a lot of attention. I was hoping numbers would bear that out with FGs at the rim, both for Russell playing with Jarrett Allen in Brooklyn and Conley playing with Gobert in Utah. It did not. But that could just be due to systematic differences and a situation where the eye test doesn't carry over to the stat sheet.

The way I see it, Russell is a great passer and a good shooter, especially at the midrange, but he isn’t athletic. Gobert’s ability to catch DLo lobs will help Rudy score, but Rudy sets some of the best screens in the NBA, which is exactly what an unathletic DLo needs to get open. I don’t think we’ll ever see him going to the rim all the time, but his open midrange pull ups should see a big FG% improvement.


Nailed it.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#498 » by TheZachAttack » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:37 pm

winforlose wrote:
shrink wrote:I give Russell a lot of credit for going on Dane’s show. He didn’t have to do that.

Two things bothered me though:

1. Dane seemed to be overly-excited, and didn’t give DLo a chance to respond to many long winded questions. I like Dane, but having DLo on was an opportunity, and I would have liked to hear more from Russell.

2. I wish DLo had been more committed to being a Timberwolf. He’s a smart guy, and I think that since he was traded so much, he definitely realizes the NBA is a business, and he doesn’t take it personally when he keeps getting traded. But of all the people who should be excited about adding Gobert, DLo should be at the top of the list, for team success as well as his own in a contract year. I expected to hear him ranting about how excited he was for this opportunity, and he didn’t do that. Maybe that’s leverage for a guy looking for an extension, or maybe he’s just being honest. However, I think going on a fan-show and telling the fans how much he loves the team and wants to be here would play well with the public, particularly the segment of fans who don’t like him.


1. I noticed that as well. Dlo seemed annoyed at times. Also, some of Dane’s points were a little insulting, and Dlo seemed to notice them too. I don’t mean to say that Dane was insulting Dlo, but the matter of fact way he suggested that Dlo was moved before teams went all in had some biting implications. Overall, it wasn’t a bad interview, but at times felt a little awkward.

2. I think Dlo is committed to being a Wolf. He came out and said he wants to extend here. The problem is, he thinks he is more valuable than he is. Streaky shooting and a need to get a lot of shots up is a major problem for a starting PG on a playoff team. Worse still, he is the fourth option now that Ant, KAT, and Rudy are the big 3. The real question for Dlo is whether he cares enough that he is willing to sign a short term extension or a discounted long term extension to keep the band together. I think on the pod he was just trying to keep his cards close to the vest for negotiating purposes.


I didn't notice #1 at all or see any of that.
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Post#499 » by Klomp » Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:44 pm

Here's an interesting thought:

When you break down Russell's numbers from last year, he had his lowest scoring rate (per36 points) since his Laker days. However, last year was also his best offensive rating of his career. That's thanks in large part to his second best season assisting and a career low in turnovers.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#500 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:23 pm

Klomp wrote:Here's an interesting thought:

When you break down Russell's numbers from last year, he had his lowest scoring rate (per36 points) since his Laker days. However, last year was also his best offensive rating of his career. That's thanks in large part to his second best season assisting and a career low in turnovers.

So he was more efficient. That's good. I think D'Lo should be our 3rd to 4th option on offense about equal to Rudy and I expect them all to be very efficient.

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