OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[YourBuddy]

Who the hell cares if she said she hates America, an unjust sentence is unjust regardless of a stupid statement from the imprisoned.

This is **** insane, but Russia is a fascist hellhole and this is a political sentence so I am not too surprised. I hope this can bring more light to the Russian regime and their terrorist activity in Ukraine. Only silver lining.

Welcome to the mind of “freedom of speech absolutists.” They get to say whatever they want, but as soon as you say something they disagree with they will cheer about you spending a decade in prison.

Brittany Griner hates America because she stayed in the locker room during the anthem to honor Breonna Taylor

but free speech!!!

They love their cancel culture.

[MotownMadness]

Friggin ridiculous to take that much time from someone's life over that. At this point she should already have time served for a crime like that.

Barbarians are what they are

[Ckay]

According to the law in Russia, up to 6 grams of marijuana possession and up to 2 grams of hash possession (what Griner had) is an administrative offense and results in a few days of detention + paying a fine. Anything over that is a criminal offense.

Griner was carrying 0.7 grams of oil and is sentenced to nine years of prison.

Keep licking boots. You totalitarian simps make me **** sick.

She smuggle it into the country tho.

[levon]

I care about Americans wrongly imprisoned in other countries.

I don't care about people who hate America, no matter where they are from. I also don't care about people who break another country's laws while visiting there. In this case it appears I have good reason to double not care,

BTW how long did it take to free the UCLA basketball idiots who were stealing from stores in China?

Explain how she hates America.

She's black and didn't participate in the anthem to protest Breonna Taylor. Free speech isn't protected for her and she's not an American citizen anymore based on the color of her skin.

Some people here would openly celebrate if Lebron was sentenced to life in prison, or worse.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I have flown in and out of countries like China, South Korea, Mexico with cartridge on me and never got caught.

Cool(?). Are you condoning her breaking rules, just saying you were lucky as hell not to be in a Chinese prison, or IDK?

This obviously isn't a black and white issue. Russia is mostly to blame but Griner obviously did herself no favors. She should've known the rules. Sure if she was Tom Brady, she would be home by now. If she was a random tourist, no one would even know she was locked up in a cell instead of being front page news with Biden being asked when she is getting home. That said, Biden/the US should work to get her out like every other citizen that is held as a political pawn.

[levon]

According to the law in Russia, up to 6 grams of marijuana possession and up to 2 grams of hash possession (what Griner had) is an administrative offense and results in a few days of detention + paying a fine. Anything over that is a criminal offense.

Griner was carrying 0.7 grams of oil and is sentenced to nine years of prison.

Keep licking boots. You totalitarian simps make me **** sick.

She smuggle it into the country tho.

It's 0.7 grams. That's 0.02 fl ounces of water. I'm sure she was itching to become a big mover in the Russian drug scene. Notoriously no one suffers from drug or alcohol abuse in Russia, so the 0.7 grams are really becoming of a nine year sentence and has nothing to do with extraditing war criminals from the US.

[watch1958]

Heard from a reliable source that she could have taken a five year assignment to the Sacramento Kings instead, but turned it down.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Doesn't Russia want an arms dealer/terrorist in exchange for Griner? That legit is a Danny Ainge type of trade that goes through.

They wanted 1 for 1 trade but paul was too much..

Oooooh crap they want Viktor Bout...I thought he died in prison lol. I guess that was bogus. Yeah if im Biden thats a no no. No **** way im giving up one of the most if the the biggest Arms dealer in this world for Griner.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Can you guys stop arguing with each other and put yourself in her shoes? Regardless of how you feel about the laws or the drugs, she is in a country that she wasn’t raised in and around people she doesn’t know. She has to be freaking out. She is probably already beating herself up to find herself in this situation. I can’t imagine how scared she must be.

And no, I didn’t know about other Americans being held in Russian prisons because I don’t look at the news or watch documentaries about it. So, this shown a light as well. I feel bad for all of them. And I hope there is a way for them to all come back home. Americans, when traveling overseas, please be careful and know the law of other countries.

[ccvle]

Griner's view in the US criminal justice system should have NO place in this discussion. Just because Russia's system is even more **** up, doesn't mean Griner was wrong to speak up about the US's or she "deserves" what is happening to to her.

[TheDiesel36]

or you could not commit a crime

what a concept, right

Lol, get over yourself., some "crime" is the last thing what its about, under normal circumstances cops would light one up with her, there is no way a basketball star in Russia goes to prison over weed, these girls go to Russia for a reason - They get paid and treated well in the rich top clubs, simple. But February 22 is a hell of a bad time to be carrying potentially dangerous for yourself., she should have known her status at the time.

She got 9 years so her value as a bargaining chip would be higher. Doesnt suprise me, Russia is a sad morally corupt place bereft of any standards, as are majority of Russians.

Wow, nice. Not only you're attacking hundreds of millions of innocent people that you don't know and that might be suffering those conditions you mention instead of supporting them, you're also very trigger happy when it comes to attacking other countries for corruption without telling anyone how are things like over there at HighHorseLand.

For context:

USA incarceration rate: 639 per 100k
Cuba incarceration rate: 510 per 100k
Brazil incarceration rate: 357 per 100k
Russia incarceration rate: 325 per 100k
Morocco incarceration rate: 238 per 100k
Mexico incarceration rate 166 per 100k

I will gladly stand by my statement, there is a very good reason why Russia is in the state that it is for the last 100 years, why it caused so much pain and death in many countries including mine., overall the population WANTS these dictarors, criminals like Putin and Stalin (who maintains a high popularity there, which is just sick), even if Russia is a third world country when it comes to standard of living, at least they feel power and importance in a situation like this war ..

Russia is a sad sad nation, that doesnt change even if many good people live there and your fake outrage certainly doesnt change that.

Also I dont understand you randomly blurting out incarceration stats, what does that have to do with anything? Like you did it to prove that America is more corrupt than Russia?

[theforumblue]

i didnt know the exchange proposal was shot down. her "value" only goes up the longer she's in prison, so russia is in no hurry. may be a while.

[Clav]

Harsh sentence.

It is definitely not equal to the crime at hand, but Griner did bring cartridges and THC products into an oligarchical, autocratic regime and broke their laws. Our opines on THC legality mean nothing, to Russia, it is a big deal.

Russia obviously was going to use her as bait to get their arms dealers, high profile prisoners, or spies back in prisoner exchanges, etc., which is not worth it. Basketball player < arms dealer in a prisoner trade.

I feel like Griner really got bent over here, a bit scapegoated for her profile and meaningless/trivial amount of THC. But... I think back to her choice to travel to work in Russia.... and accidental or not, her THC cartridges were in the bag. Big **** oops.

[infinite11285]

According to the law in Russia, up to 6 grams of marijuana possession and up to 2 grams of hash possession (what Griner had) is an administrative offense and results in a few days of detention + paying a fine. Anything over that is a criminal offense.

Griner was carrying 0.7 grams of oil and is sentenced to nine years of prison.

Keep licking boots. You totalitarian simps make me **** sick.

Thanks for the info.

Is there a distinction that details the penalties of a non-Russian citizen found in possession of an illegal substance while entering the country (what they would consider smuggling) versus a Russian citizen?

The reason I ask is because if there isn't a clear distinction between how the laws are applied to Russian citizens in comparison to non-citizens, it allows the Russian court to go beyond prosecutorial guidelines when a punishment is handed down.

[CptCrunch]

1/ Fact, Griner committed a crime in Russia by her own accounts, by the accounts of her lawyers, and by the evidence supplied in Russian court. And let me remind everyone that Griner was arrested before Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

2/ Fact, Griner was sentenced to a near maximum sentence given the laws she broke.

3/ Fact, Griner could be sentenced in US Federal court (albeit for less time) for the same actions at any US port of entry.

4/ Your views on cannabis has no basis on its illegality in both United States, Russia or any other country.

Any mention of 'unjust', 'planted evidence', 'barbaric' is the result of a grandiose delusion rooted in the laughable idea of American exceptionalism.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

According to the law in Russia, up to 6 grams of marijuana possession and up to 2 grams of hash possession (what Griner had) is an administrative offense and results in a few days of detention + paying a fine. Anything over that is a criminal offense.

Griner was carrying 0.7 grams of oil and is sentenced to nine years of prison.

Keep licking boots. You totalitarian simps make me **** sick.

She smuggle it into the country tho.

It's 0.7 grams. That's 0.02 fl ounces of water. I'm sure she was itching to become a big mover in the Russian drug scene. Notoriously no one suffers from drug or alcohol abuse in Russia, so the 0.7 grams are really becoming of a nine year sentence and has nothing to do with extraditing war criminals from the US.

i'd get a 4 year sentence here in the state i'm in for a first time weed possession

[Wallace_Wallace]

I guarantee if this was a white American dude then a lot of those claiming it's her own fault would be singing a different tune.

For what it's worth I think it's fairly likely this stuff was either planted or never existed.

I try to stay consistent regardless of the race. You messed up in another country, you have to pay for it.

Therefore, Ryan Lochte should have been destroyed in Brazil.

[Wallace_Wallace]

I care about Americans wrongly imprisoned in other countries.

I don't care about people who hate America, no matter where they are from. I also don't care about people who break another country's laws while visiting there. In this case it appears I have good reason to double not care,

BTW how long did it take to free the UCLA basketball idiots who were stealing from stores in China?

Explain how she hates America.

She's black and didn't participate in the anthem to protest Breonna Taylor. Free speech isn't protected for her and she's not an American citizen anymore based on the color of her skin.

Some people here would openly celebrate if Lebron was sentenced to life in prison, or worse.

Depending on what the crime is wtf. As far as I don't like LeBron, he and Curry had the most clean image. In fact, I don't even recall LeBron having a speeding ticket.

[TheNewEra]

Can you guys stop arguing with each other and put yourself in her shoes? Regardless of how you feel about the laws or the drugs, she is in a country that she wasn’t raised in and around people she doesn’t know. She has to be freaking out. She is probably already beating herself up to find herself in this situation. I can’t imagine how scared she must be.

And no, I didn’t know about other Americans being held in Russian prisons because I don’t look at the news or watch documentaries about it. So, this shown a light as well. I feel bad for all of them. And I hope there is a way for them to all come back home. Americans, when traveling overseas, please be careful and know the law of other countries.

That’s anybody who commits a crime and gets caught. She had a history of doing business over there so it’s not like she was unfamiliar she just didn’t get caught before. Tough situation but her status as a celebrity will get her bailed out.

[infinite11285]

i didnt know the exchange proposal was shot down. her "value" only goes up the longer she's in prison, so russia is in no hurry. may be a while.

I made this exact point earlier in the thread. Russia holds all of the leverage, and it's unfortunate.

Negotiations will continue for her release, but if an exchange for Viktor Bout is in the cards, who was literally the most notorious arms dealer in the world, the US must acknowledge a swap will result in the deaths of an untold amount of people due to Griner’s actions AND Russia’s corrupt intent. Even worse, Griner has lived and worked in Russia for several years, so she should know better!

Lose/lose situation.