OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[Nate505]

To all those who hate her, I am with you

WTF is wrong with some of you?

What did she ever do to deserve your hate?

I don't hate her, but she did feel like protesting the national anthem was correct, and that is just bound to piss off a lot of people. You can believe that hate is unjustified, but patriotism is one of the most volatile substances in society, and messing with it in any way angers a lot of people. Personally I think those people are going off the deep end a bit, but I get the concept behind it.

Honestly, I had a much bigger issue with the soccer players who kneeled for the anthem during the Olympics. At least Griner was just protesting it in a club league. But the soccer players chose to represent our country, yet also felt like they had to protest it as well. At that point, the real protest would be to not to represent our country.

[Nate505]

i'd get a 4 year sentence here in the state i'm in for a first time weed possession

I doubt it. Depends on what you mean by "possession" though. As far as I know, possession of anything less than an ounce (or near it) is a misdemeanor in all states.

State laws don't matter. Marijuana is illegal federally ANYWHERE in the US. Anyone in possession of weed can be persecuted and locked up if needed for political reasons.

Possession of small amounts carries a 1 year max sentence, and if feds want to trump up some distribution charges, it's 5 years. This is ignoring all kinds of importation charges.

What actually happens is different from what can potentially happen under the law of the land.

There are tons of laws on the books that are enforced so rarely that they become meaningless. Otherwise the Feds could just stand outside any of our gazillion dispensaries and arrest people here.

However, what I was quoting was someone claiming that they would get a 4 year sentence in the state they were in for a first time weed possession. I highly (no pun intended) doubt that, though we have to get some sort of parameters on what is defined as "possession." If he possessed 100 kilos? Yeah, then I'd believe him. If it was 10 grams? I really really really really doubt it.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

It's 0.7 grams. That's 0.02 fl ounces of water. I'm sure she was itching to become a big mover in the Russian drug scene. Notoriously no one suffers from drug or alcohol abuse in Russia, so the 0.7 grams are really becoming of a nine year sentence and has nothing to do with extraditing war criminals from the US.

i'd get a 4 year sentence here in the state i'm in for a first time weed possession

I doubt it. Depends on what you mean by "possession" though. As far as I know, possession of anything less than an ounce (or near it) is a misdemeanor in all states.

my bad, the second misdemeanor possession gets upgraded to a felony and is 4 years.

[levon]

i'd get a 4 year sentence here in the state i'm in for a first time weed possession

I doubt it. Depends on what you mean by "possession" though. As far as I know, possession of anything less than an ounce (or near it) is a misdemeanor in all states.

State laws don't matter. Marijuana is illegal federally ANYWHERE in the US. Anyone in possession of weed can be persecuted and locked up if needed for political reasons.

Possession of small amounts carries a 1 year max sentence, and if feds want to trump up some distribution charges, it's 5 years. This is ignoring all kinds of importation charges.

What actually happens is different from what can potentially happen under the law of the land.

You and I both know the amount discussed in Griner's case isn't going to result in anything approaching 5 years. But while we're discussing variation in sentencing, a quick Google yields:

Black male offenders continued to receive longer sentences than similarly situated White male offenders. Black male offenders received sentences on average 19.1 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders during the Post-Report period (fiscal years 2012-2016), as they had for the prior four periods studied.

Non-government sponsored departures and variances appear to contribute significantly to the difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders. Black male offenders were 21.2 percent less likely than White male offenders to receive a non-government sponsored downward departure or variance during the Post-Report period. Furthermore, when Black male offenders did receive a non-government sponsored departure or variance, they received sentences 16.8 percent longer than White male offenders who received a non-government sponsored departure or variance.

Violence in an offender’s criminal history does not appear to account for any of the demographic differences in sentencing. Black male offenders received sentences on average 20.4 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders, accounting for violence in an offender’s past in fiscal year 2016, the only year for which such data is available. This figure is almost the same as the 20.7 percent difference without accounting for past violence.

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing

"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" is the rallying cry while completely denying that some people are playing by different rules. You might consider black people being disproportionately locked up and kept there a political reason because it infringes upon voting rights. I think it's more about classism.

[CptCrunch]

I doubt it. Depends on what you mean by "possession" though. As far as I know, possession of anything less than an ounce (or near it) is a misdemeanor in all states.

State laws don't matter. Marijuana is illegal federally ANYWHERE in the US. Anyone in possession of weed can be persecuted and locked up if needed for political reasons.

Possession of small amounts carries a 1 year max sentence, and if feds want to trump up some distribution charges, it's 5 years. This is ignoring all kinds of importation charges.

What actually happens is different from what can potentially happen under the law of the land.

There are tons of laws on the books that are enforced so rarely that they become meaningless. Otherwise the Feds could just stand outside any of our gazillion dispensaries and arrest people here.

However, what I was quoting was someone claiming that they would get a 4 year sentence in the state they were in for a first time weed possession. I highly (no pun intended) doubt that, though we have to get some sort of parameters on what is defined as "possession." If he possessed 100 kilos? Yeah, then I'd believe him. If it was 10 grams? I really really really really doubt it.

Do you understand that governments use arcane loopholes to arrest citizens of unfriendly states? See Meng Wanzhou and if you want to go back further see Al Capone

Just because laws are not enforced does not mean they cannot be enforced. Countries across the world politically enforce bull laws based on feeble evidence against political adversaries. None of us are suggesting that Britney deserves 9.5 years for less than gram of cannabis vape juice.

We are just stating that by all accounts this sentence was in accordance with the law of Russia, which is important since we as Americans value the concept of rule of law.

[thelead]

The only thing more disgusting than her sentence is some of the reactions here.

It's sucks but it's not like she was forced to go to Russia with an illegal substance. It's like someone being mauled to death after jumping into the lion's den of a zoo... incredibly sad... but of their own doing.

Then again, I think people that jump out of airplanes with fabric strapped to their backs are crazy... so take my opinion with a grain of salt

[ReddoverKobe]

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

why people feel sorry for her is beyond me

cant wait to see athletes crying over this, **** imbeciles

Why do you guys rush to forums like this to show the world what horrible people you are? Its so strange. And 21 likes. Yikes

[Ballerhogger]

The only thing more disgusting than her sentence is some of the reactions here.

It's sucks but it's not like she was forced to go to Russia with an illegal substance. It's like someone being mauled to death after jumping into the lion's den of a zoo... incredibly sad... but of their own doing.

Then again, I think people that jump out of airplanes with fabric strapped to their backs are crazy... so take my opinion with a grain of salt

at least theirs safety net ... There's no safety once you enter the frozen tundra called Russia...

[Nate505]

State laws don't matter. Marijuana is illegal federally ANYWHERE in the US. Anyone in possession of weed can be persecuted and locked up if needed for political reasons.

Possession of small amounts carries a 1 year max sentence, and if feds want to trump up some distribution charges, it's 5 years. This is ignoring all kinds of importation charges.

What actually happens is different from what can potentially happen under the law of the land.

There are tons of laws on the books that are enforced so rarely that they become meaningless. Otherwise the Feds could just stand outside any of our gazillion dispensaries and arrest people here.

However, what I was quoting was someone claiming that they would get a 4 year sentence in the state they were in for a first time weed possession. I highly (no pun intended) doubt that, though we have to get some sort of parameters on what is defined as "possession." If he possessed 100 kilos? Yeah, then I'd believe him. If it was 10 grams? I really really really really doubt it.

Do you understand that governments use arcane loopholes to arrest citizens of unfriendly states? See Meng Wanzhou and if you want to go back further see Al Capone

Just because laws are not enforced does not mean they cannot be enforced. Countries across the world politically enforce bull laws based on feeble evidence against political adversaries. None of us are suggesting that Britney deserves 9.5 years for less than gram of cannabis vape juice.

We are just stating that by all accounts this sentence was in accordance with the law of Russia, which is important since we as Americans value the concept of rule of law.

Wait, was there some sort of argument that this sentence wasn't in accordance with the law of Russia? I'm sure they can twist it to fit into their legal system any way they want, just like anywhere else in the world.

[Pharmcat]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

We are in a Christo fascist movement and a lot of people are not realizing it. You see it with the right cheering on Russia (as shown in this thread) and them hosting Hungarys PM

[liquidswords]

not exclusive to this place but people have some toxic ass takes. this is WRONG and you can't justify it the other way

[levon]

We are just stating that by all accounts this sentence was in accordance with the law of Russia, which is important since we as Americans value the concept of rule of law.

Do you value Sharia Law? What about Nuremberg Laws? Everyone values the concept of the rule of law to some degree, and it has nothing to do with being an American. What you're saying amounts to a truism, and your point is also generally self-contradicting. We're discussing the fairness of the application of the law. When someone misapplies the law or distorts it in a draconian way to serve another purpose outside the parameters of that intended law, respecting it would be completely antithetical to valuing the concept of law.

[Schiltzenberger]

Whenever an American talks about how evil Putin is, or how nasty Russia are, I just can't help but literally laugh out loud.

Go have a look at the American world tour, all the countries they've bombed, invaded or done a 'regime change' to since WW2. It's something like 80 countries. Any virtue signalling from Americans is quite frankly sickening.
America has more people in prison than Russia, more people in prison on pot related charges, more people in prison under dodgy circumstances, you guys constantly tell us how corrupt and racist your police are...... but you talk about Russia as though it's worse.

The US is currently in Syria illegally occupying 1/3 of the country, stealing the oil. They helped ISIS FFS!!!! They loved Bin Laden, until he backfired on them. The list goes on and on and on.....
Yet Putin and Russia are the devil???? lol

[ReddoverKobe]

To all those who hate her, I am with you

WTF is wrong with some of you?

What did she ever do to deserve your hate?

I don't hate her, but she did feel like protesting the national anthem was correct, and that is just bound to piss off a lot of people. You can believe that hate is unjustified, but patriotism is one of the most volatile substances in society, and messing with it in any way angers a lot of people. Personally I think those people are going off the deep end a bit, but I get the concept behind it.

Honestly, I had a much bigger issue with the soccer players who kneeled for the anthem during the Olympics. At least Griner was just protesting it in a club league. But the soccer players chose to represent our country, yet also felt like they had to protest it as well. At that point, the real protest would be to not to represent our country.

The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

[The Rebel]

HOw do you know what I have been through?

People who talk tough on the Internet aren't tough. Again, I would bet money you'd last an hour if interrogated in a Russian prison. Tops.

What's funny is you keep talking tough and telling me I'm not, so I think we both know which one of us is real, and it isn't you.

[Pointgod]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

Oh they understand and they fully want to bring that to North America. That’s why they have such a hard on for Putin and Orban, ironically not Xi or Saudi Arabia though.

[Ayt]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

They want that type of autocracy here.

[BlazersBroncos]

The amount of Russia shilling on this site is absolutely startling. I wonder which side of the horseshoe these idiots fall, the tankie left or the orange man right.

Russians are not inherently bad people, there isnt some genetic issue that causes them to be authoritarian, but like in Nazi Germany the populace has been indoctrinated to the extent that by all accounts the majority, vast majority, are supportive of an aggressive war of conquest where a primary strategy is inflicting terror by indiscriminately targeting civilian targets.

The Russia we see right now is as close as a large nation has come to the belief system the Nazis had; constant backtracking on diplomatic promises, war for lebensraum, belief that ethnic Russians are inherently ubermensch, a cult of personality around the dictator, top down directives of cultural and ethnic destruction of a people, the parallels go on.

Anyone that defends them is a pig.

[Chronz]

To all those who hate her, I am with you

WTF is wrong with some of you?

What did she ever do to deserve your hate?

There's nothing wrong with us, do you love everyone? Cuz that would be truly ignorant.

She put the likes of b Taylor ahead of her country. Blm is unamerican bs if you haven't figured it out yet

That said, I hope she's rescued but I deffo won't be losing sleep if she gets what she deserves

[YourBuddy]

WTF is wrong with some of you?

What did she ever do to deserve your hate?

I don't hate her, but she did feel like protesting the national anthem was correct, and that is just bound to piss off a lot of people. You can believe that hate is unjustified, but patriotism is one of the most volatile substances in society, and messing with it in any way angers a lot of people. Personally I think those people are going off the deep end a bit, but I get the concept behind it.

Honestly, I had a much bigger issue with the soccer players who kneeled for the anthem during the Olympics. At least Griner was just protesting it in a club league. But the soccer players chose to represent our country, yet also felt like they had to protest it as well. At that point, the real protest would be to not to represent our country.

The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

Just trying to force their nationalism on everyone they disagree with.