OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[Mavrelous]

Ragardless of the law in Russia, carrying weed shouldn't put qnyone in jail, she got caught in a crossfire, I hope the deal happens soon and she goes back to her family.

[JimmyPlopper]

Why? Cuz nobody weeps for arrogance.

You want to go to war cuz she can't understand how lucky she is to be American?

When bron said what he said about her not even wanting to come back to the states, did you cosign?

No the reason I said there are a decent number of boot lickers in this thread - is because there have been a whole bunch of people trying to rationalize following all laws no matter what - and insisting on it like a fundamentalist. that was the reason.

Saying you should follow laws in a country that a history of doing this crap isn't boot lickin' - it's common sense. Quit trying to be so edgy.

Its not edgy. What I'm saying is actually common sense.

[vital_signs]

No the reason I said there are a decent number of boot lickers in this thread - is because there have been a whole bunch of people trying to rationalize following all laws no matter what - and insisting on it like a fundamentalist. that was the reason.

Saying you should follow laws in a country that a history of doing this crap isn't boot lickin' - it's common sense. Quit trying to be so edgy.

Its not edgy. What I'm saying is actually common sense.

Go to Russia with some herb and go through the airports with it. You may get lucky and get through but at some point even the most stubborn of people will admit to themselves that this is infact not a good idea.

[Infinite Llamas]

Would we really get the “rules are rules” if this was Tomi Lahren in captivity opposed to an anthem-protesting womens basketball star? Or would the same voices that condemned Lebron for “defending” Chinese violations stay consistent and realize that using a human being as a political pawn is one helluva human rights violation?

I’m no Lebron apologist but people should at least stay consistent with their ideologies.

[JimmyPlopper]

Saying you should follow laws in a country that a history of doing this crap isn't boot lickin' - it's common sense. Quit trying to be so edgy.

Its not edgy. What I'm saying is actually common sense.

Go to Russia with some herb and go through the airports with it. You may get lucky and get through but at some point even the most stubborn of people will admit to themselves that this is infact not a good idea.

never been to Russia, but done it in China without any issues. they also frown upon it pretty heavily.

[MotownMadness]

I feel bad even posting it but any COD Warzone player has to find that hilarious. Again no disrespect and i want her out of there immediately but twitter has gone wild and this is something else

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[Wallace_Wallace]

Its not edgy. What I'm saying is actually common sense.

Go to Russia with some herb and go through the airports with it. You may get lucky and get through but at some point even the most stubborn of people will admit to themselves that this is infact not a good idea.

never been to Russia, but done it in China without any issues. they also frown upon it pretty heavily.

I suggest you not do it in future, especially in a country where you could be jailed (or worse) for making a funny hand gesture towards the Tiananmen Square.

[Wallace_Wallace]

Would we really get the “rules are rules” if this was Tomi Lahren in captivity opposed to an anthem-protesting womens basketball star? Or would the same voices that condemned Lebron for “defending” Chinese violations stay consistent and realize that using a human being as a political pawn is one helluva human rights violation?

I’m no Lebron apologist but people should at least stay consistent with their ideologies.

Yes, if that were to happen. And also, yes Ryan Lochte should have been jailed in Brazil for what he did (instead of an imaginary scenario this is a real one).

[Jagic Mohnson]

You better learn basic laws of any country or the country you live in. Sebastain Telfair had legal guns licenes in Florida but he drove to NYC and got sentenced to I believe 2 years for concealing guns in NY. I remmeber reading some guy in Thailand talked **** about the King of Thailand and he was sentenced to jail for doing so.

[vital_signs]

Its not edgy. What I'm saying is actually common sense.

Go to Russia with some herb and go through the airports with it. You may get lucky and get through but at some point even the most stubborn of people will admit to themselves that this is infact not a good idea.

never been to Russia, but done it in China without any issues. they also frown upon it pretty heavily.

As a former "hard" drug dealer I knew I was playing with fire and if I was caught I'd fully expect the response from other people to be: shouldn't have done that, V_S is an idiot.

Outside of a few people, i don't think many are saying that 9 years is justifiable. In the end though, breaking laws in those types of countries is risky business. Regardless of how asinine the laws are.

[JimmyPlopper]

Go to Russia with some herb and go through the airports with it. You may get lucky and get through but at some point even the most stubborn of people will admit to themselves that this is infact not a good idea.

never been to Russia, but done it in China without any issues. they also frown upon it pretty heavily.

I suggest you not do it in future, especially in a country where you could be jailed (or worse) for making a funny hand gesture towards the Tiananmen Square.

Yeah probably good advice. I think there are two parts to this:

1) whether the penalty fits the crime - the answer is certainly not
2) whether she could have reasonably predicted to be caught and thus is facing consequences she was aware of - this is more debatable, but at least arguable.

but even if you yield on point 2, point 1 supersedes point 2 for me

[Johnny Bball]

There are a lot of just plain awful humans in this forum.

[ShootersShoot]

Its not edgy. What I'm saying is actually common sense.

Go to Russia with some herb and go through the airports with it. You may get lucky and get through but at some point even the most stubborn of people will admit to themselves that this is infact not a good idea.

never been to Russia, but done it in China without any issues. they also frown upon it pretty heavily.

That's the funny thing about breaking the law..sometimes you get away with it, and sometimes you don't. Doesnt make the risk you took any less stupid because you didnt get caught.

[MotownMadness]

Sometimes i wish everyone could spend a week in jail or even do 48 hours in a solitary confinement at your local city jail to just understand how cruel this punishment is.

[ShootersShoot]

never been to Russia, but done it in China without any issues. they also frown upon it pretty heavily.

I suggest you not do it in future, especially in a country where you could be jailed (or worse) for making a funny hand gesture towards the Tiananmen Square.

Yeah probably good advice. I think there are two parts to this:

1) whether the penalty fits the crime - the answer is certainly not
2) whether she could have reasonably predicted to be caught and thus is facing consequences she was aware of - this is more debatable, but at least arguable.

but even if you yield on point 2, point 1 supersedes point 2 for me

You can believe whatever you want, but the bottom line is that you do not get to set the penalty for committing a crime in a country. Doesnt matter how dumb you think it is.

[ShootersShoot]

Sometimes i wish everyone could spend a week in jail or even do 48 hours in a solitary confinement at your local city jail to just understand how cruel this punishment is.

I'm pretty sure everyone with a brain understands this punishment is cruel. That's not the point though.

[SOUL]

I said this in the last thread regarding Griner but I lost hope in this forum where 40-50% of a thread was defending George **** Zimmermann of all people.

IThere is no dialogue with people who have made up their mind that they have no empathy and align with anything that motivates them politically.

Sure sure...

I'm already breaking my promise on not replying and this is off topic anyway so I don't really want to delve into it, but I refuse to see how those two things are even aligned. Riddle me, please. Do we still have people defending the honor of a glorified rent-a-cop who picked a fight and lost with someone who wanted a late night snack? Hell, I can echo what my mostly right-leaning grandpa said during that same situation and it was "Mind your **** business and none of that happens." That isn't political.

[MotownMadness]

Sometimes i wish everyone could spend a week in jail or even do 48 hours in a solitary confinement at your local city jail to just understand how cruel this punishment is.

I'm pretty sure everyone with a brain understands this punishment is cruel. That's not the point though.

Don't care what the point is over their laws. This is something you shouldn't even in the slightest agree with. The mental and physical decay this girl is about to deal with over some weed is flat out bull to the point i say screw your laws and you're a complete waste of trash for even thinking this is acceptable under any circumstance (not you but Russia).

Most ive ever done is 90 days but you give me 9 years and i would rather be dead cause thats gonna feel more like 100 years in there.

[og15]

USA should deny visa to every Russian NHL player.I'd say NBA too but there is none.Western countries are too freaking weak to this genocidal maniac.Deny visas to Russians,remove every diplmat,close down the embassies in Moscow,isolate this SOB.

The biggest losers here would be professional women athletes who are able to make more of a living by playing in places like Russia.

I respectfully disagree (I tend to agree with most of your posts here). The average WNBA salary is 120k, compare that with the average G-league salary is 35k, the ladies make more than enough for 4 months worth of work. Considering Brittney Griner is the one of the better players in the WNBA, her salary is probably near 150k-200k, which again, is more than enough.

If players want to make more via playing overseas/endorsement deals/work a part-time job, that is completely up to them. Quite frankly, they don't have to.

By biggest loser, I don't mean they are poor without it or would be broke.

I'm assuming that out of the professional athletes crossing to play among these countries, the women are the ones who are getting the greatest relative financial benefit.

I could be wrong and the Russian NHL stars could only be able the make no the equivalent of around 100k playing in Russia, but generally men in a high profile sports are going from rich millionaire to richer millionaire.

[Johnny Bball]

1/ Fact, Griner committed a crime in Russia by her own accounts, by the accounts of her lawyers, and by the evidence supplied in Russian court. And let me remind everyone that Griner was arrested before Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

2/ Fact, Griner was sentenced to a near maximum sentence given the laws she broke.

3/ Fact, Griner could be sentenced in US Federal court (albeit for less time) for the same actions at any US port of entry.

4/ Your views on cannabis has no basis on its illegality in both United States, Russia or any other country.

Any mention of 'unjust', 'planted evidence', 'barbaric' is the result of a grandiose delusion rooted in the laughable idea of American exceptionalism.

Or someone from the outside of both countries could very justifiably say they both suck in how they treat their citizens for drug crimes, and your thought that one can't be wrong if there is another, is complete ****.