OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[Johnny Bball]

Does half this board realize that the US is in a proxy war with Russia? The fawning over and defending of Russia is just stupid if you are a US citizen.

Is it stupid if you are a fascist?

How is it not? How can you possibly even imply it isn't and think this is something you should ask? Do you care about any rights you have, or is it just more satisfying in life to see others crushed? The only thing that would be even more stupid would be if you were one of the 5-10 guys that got behind the fascist leader to get him in office.

[JimmyPlopper]

Does half this board realize that the US is in a proxy war with Russia? The fawning over and defending of Russia is just stupid if you are a US citizen.

Is it stupid if you are a fascist?

How is it not? How can you possibly even imply it isn't and think this is something you should ask? Do you care about any rights you have, or is it just more satisfying in life to see others crushed? The only thing that would be even more stupid would be if you were one of the 5-10 guys that got behind the fascist leader to get him in office.

I think he was saying that even though it would be stupid to be a fascist, for those that are already a fascist, it doesn't seem like a stupid way to fulfill their fascist ideals?

[Johnny Bball]

Kirilenko needa step in

Why do you want Kirilenko to die?

You can't use stars to pressure oligarchy dictators, especially one that only cares about rebuilding the Soviet Union in all it's communist glory.

Russia is no longer communist and will never be again. The ignorance is astounding.

[Johnny Bball]

Is it stupid if you are a fascist?

How is it not? How can you possibly even imply it isn't and think this is something you should ask? Do you care about any rights you have, or is it just more satisfying in life to see others crushed? The only thing that would be even more stupid would be if you were one of the 5-10 guys that got behind the fascist leader to get him in office.

I think he was saying that even though it would be stupid to be a fascist, for those that are already a fascist, it doesn't seem like a stupid way to fulfill their fascist ideals?

Every fascist that moved to the top to get their leaders in power get killed th roughout history. It is a standard in any authoritarian regime. So why else would you want to be a fascist if you weren't in charge, unless you were a complete sub, or pretending and a coward? Either is pathetic.

[JimmyPlopper]

Kirilenko needa step in

Why do you want Kirilenko to die?

You can't use stars to pressure oligarchy dictators, especially one that only cares about rebuilding the Soviet Union in all it's communist glory.

Russia is no longer communist and will never be again. The ignorance is astounding.

He didn't say that it was communist. Communist is used in his post as an adjective to modify the world "glory" - to me it seems clear that he meant to allude to the prestige and glory of the USSR at that point in time when they were communist - and not related to whether they were communist currently.

[JimmyPlopper]

How is it not? How can you possibly even imply it isn't and think this is something you should ask? Do you care about any rights you have, or is it just more satisfying in life to see others crushed? The only thing that would be even more stupid would be if you were one of the 5-10 guys that got behind the fascist leader to get him in office.

I think he was saying that even though it would be stupid to be a fascist, for those that are already a fascist, it doesn't seem like a stupid way to fulfill their fascist ideals?

Every fascist that moved to the top to get their leaders in power get killed th roughout history. It is a standard in any authoritarian regime. So why else would you want to be a fascist if you weren't in charge, unless you were a complete sub, or pretending and a coward? Either is pathetic.

My impression of fascist that are not in power, but are supporting the power is exactly that - they are completely subs. I agree its pathetic, but I don't think the post you were quoting is saying what you thought.

[MotownMadness]

USA: 40,000 Americans incarcerated for weed.

Russia: 1? American incarcerated for weed.

USA: *shocked Pikachu face*

Thats some pretty lazy data while not understanding laws and context that goes into those numbers over here

[payton2kemp]

Anyone who thinks Griner deserves the 9.5 on top of the 6 months she already served for a couple vape cartridges has an agenda against her, her political stance, or both. This sentence is a damn tragedy, and IMO if the US/Russia wasn’t in a proxy war right now, she would be a free woman right now.

What I don’t agree with is trading a Russian criminal for her. What’s stopping Russia from coming up with another BS excuse to prosecute another American? Are we just going to release all their criminals for them, or do we not care because this said American isn’t a celebrity or public figure?

I think its the hypocrisy of it. The US is so desperate to free her, but yet so many Americans have been locked up for weed in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/

In 2010, the young Oklahoma mother, who had been caught selling $31 worth of marijuana to a police informant after financial troubles caused her to lose her home, was sentenced to 12 years in prison. It was her first-ever offense, and the lengthy sentence drew national attention, sparking a movement that led to her early release.

If their isn't sympathy in the US for that Oklahoma mother why do people expect Russia to do better.

Not the exact same situation but still ridiculous. Lots of other stories similar to this happen in the US, why not just legalize it, why is it still a schedule 1 drug, why not help all these people get out of jail and clear their records so they can live a normal life.

[JimmyPlopper]

Anyone who thinks Griner deserves the 9.5 on top of the 6 months she already served for a couple vape cartridges has an agenda against her, her political stance, or both. This sentence is a damn tragedy, and IMO if the US/Russia wasn’t in a proxy war right now, she would be a free woman right now.

What I don’t agree with is trading a Russian criminal for her. What’s stopping Russia from coming up with another BS excuse to prosecute another American? Are we just going to release all their criminals for them, or do we not care because this said American isn’t a celebrity or public figure?

I think its the hypocrisy of it. The US is so desperate to free her, but yet so many Americans have been locked up for weed in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/

In 2010, the young Oklahoma mother, who had been caught selling $31 worth of marijuana to a police informant after financial troubles caused her to lose her home, was sentenced to 12 years in prison. It was her first-ever offense, and the lengthy sentence drew national attention, sparking a movement that led to her early release.

Not the exact same situation but still ridiculous. Lots of other stories similar to this happen in the US, why not just legalize it, why is it still a schedule 1 drug, why not help all these people get out of jail and clear their records so they can live a normal life.

Montrezl Harrell is facing his own weed crimes back in the US - but of course he had a significantly higher volume of substance than Griner. Either way - I think its okay to protest both situations.

[payton2kemp]

Anyone who thinks Griner deserves the 9.5 on top of the 6 months she already served for a couple vape cartridges has an agenda against her, her political stance, or both. This sentence is a damn tragedy, and IMO if the US/Russia wasn’t in a proxy war right now, she would be a free woman right now.

What I don’t agree with is trading a Russian criminal for her. What’s stopping Russia from coming up with another BS excuse to prosecute another American? Are we just going to release all their criminals for them, or do we not care because this said American isn’t a celebrity or public figure?

I think its the hypocrisy of it. The US is so desperate to free her, but yet so many Americans have been locked up for weed in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/

In 2010, the young Oklahoma mother, who had been caught selling $31 worth of marijuana to a police informant after financial troubles caused her to lose her home, was sentenced to 12 years in prison. It was her first-ever offense, and the lengthy sentence drew national attention, sparking a movement that led to her early release.

Not the exact same situation but still ridiculous. Lots of other stories similar to this happen in the US, why not just legalize it, why is it still a schedule 1 drug, why not help all these people get out of jail and clear their records so they can live a normal life.

Montrezl Harrell is facing his own weed crimes back in the US - but of course he had a significantly higher volume of substance than Griner. Either way - I think its okay to protest both situations.

But the federal gov't can acutally change the laws in the US and fix the issue here. Sure they can also help Griner, but why not legalize it at a federal level. it makes no sense.

[JimmyPlopper]

I think its the hypocrisy of it. The US is so desperate to free her, but yet so many Americans have been locked up for weed in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/



Not the exact same situation but still ridiculous. Lots of other stories similar to this happen in the US, why not just legalize it, why is it still a schedule 1 drug, why not help all these people get out of jail and clear their records so they can live a normal life.

Montrezl Harrell is facing his own weed crimes back in the US - but of course he had a significantly higher volume of substance than Griner. Either way - I think its okay to protest both situations.

But the federal gov't can acutally change the laws in the US and fix the issue here. Sure they can also help Griner, but why not legalize it at a federal level. it makes no sense.

The federal government as a collective unit could do that, sure. But we have lots of issues we could theoretically address as a collective unit, but struggle to do so, because of divisions among our country's voting blocs

[MotownMadness]

I think its the hypocrisy of it. The US is so desperate to free her, but yet so many Americans have been locked up for weed in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/



Not the exact same situation but still ridiculous. Lots of other stories similar to this happen in the US, why not just legalize it, why is it still a schedule 1 drug, why not help all these people get out of jail and clear their records so they can live a normal life.

Montrezl Harrell is facing his own weed crimes back in the US - but of course he had a significantly higher volume of substance than Griner. Either way - I think its okay to protest both situations.

But the federal gov't can acutally change the laws in the US and fix the issue here. Sure they can also help Griner, but why not legalize it at a federal level. it makes no sense.

I think it ultimately comes down to taxing something you can easily grow yourself. No different then why you can buy alcohol but not make your own shine.

Money!!!

[AussieCeltic]

Why does Griner get special treatment? There are plenty of other US citizens in Russian jails on similar charges.

What about Mark Fogel who worked at the US Embassy, was arrested for having prescribed medicinal marijuana (he had papers to back this up) and was sentenced to 14 years in jail.

Why is Griners life worth more than his? Because she can put a ball through a hoop?

[azcatz11]

Montrezl Harrell is facing his own weed crimes back in the US - but of course he had a significantly higher volume of substance than Griner. Either way - I think its okay to protest both situations.

But the federal gov't can acutally change the laws in the US and fix the issue here. Sure they can also help Griner, but why not legalize it at a federal level. it makes no sense.

I think it ultimately comes down to taxing something you can easily grow yourself. No different then why you can buy alcohol but not make your own shine.

Money!!!

Same reason Juuls are banned but cigarettes remain legal.

“We don’t know if Juuls are dangerous”

Our government is a farce

[JimmyPlopper]

But the federal gov't can acutally change the laws in the US and fix the issue here. Sure they can also help Griner, but why not legalize it at a federal level. it makes no sense.

I think it ultimately comes down to taxing something you can easily grow yourself. No different then why you can buy alcohol but not make your own shine.

Money!!!

Same reason Juuls are banned but cigarettes remain legal.

“We don’t know if Juuls are dangerous”

Our government is a farce

Cigarettes and their revenues are included in the Tobacco master trust agreement from 1998, but vape cartridges are not because it is a slightly different strain of tobacco. The state governments would lose out on tax revenue unless they amended the original agreement. On the other hand the states have securitized these payments from the tobacco companies and sold those bonds off into people's investment accounts. Tobacco bonds - what a world

[MotownMadness]

Why does Griner get special treatment? There are plenty of other US citizens in Russian jails on similar charges.

What about Mark Fogel who worked at the US Embassy, was arrested for having prescribed medicinal marijuana (he had papers to back this up) and was sentenced to 14 years in jail.

Why is Griners life worth more than his? Because she can put a ball through a hoop?

Its not, the media needs to do their job and bring more light to this type of stuff instead of just 24/7 politics.

Griner is just posted on basically every milk carton while most people wouldn't even know about that type of situation.

[azcatz11]

Why does Griner get special treatment? There are plenty of other US citizens in Russian jails on similar charges.

What about Mark Fogel who worked at the US Embassy, was arrested for having prescribed medicinal marijuana (he had papers to back this up) and was sentenced to 14 years in jail.

Why is Griners life worth more than his? Because she can put a ball through a hoop?

Freeing Mark Fogel isn’t winning elections for anyone

[MrBigShot]

USA: 40,000 Americans incarcerated for weed.

Russia: 1? American incarcerated for weed.

USA: *shocked Pikachu face*

You say that like us incarcerating people for weed isn't a pathetic embarrassment.

[JimmyPlopper]

Why does Griner get special treatment? There are plenty of other US citizens in Russian jails on similar charges.

What about Mark Fogel who worked at the US Embassy, was arrested for having prescribed medicinal marijuana (he had papers to back this up) and was sentenced to 14 years in jail.

Why is Griners life worth more than his? Because she can put a ball through a hoop?

Its not, the media needs to do their job and bring more light to this type of stuff instead of just 24/7 politics.

Griner is just posted on basically every milk carton while most people wouldn't even know about that type of situation.

I take the view that - someone like Griner getting caught, while extremely unfortunate for her, could be beneficial for the others who have been in her shoes that are not celebrities. People care more about celebrities generally it seems.

[MotownMadness]

USA: 40,000 Americans incarcerated for weed.

Russia: 1? American incarcerated for weed.

USA: *shocked Pikachu face*

You say that like us incarcerating people for weed isn't a pathetic embarrassment.

Would love to know how much they were carrying, did they have a firearm on them, were they already on Felony probation, did they already have prior felonies, did they have a active warrant while then picking up a weed charge on top of it.