OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[payton2kemp]

Dude sentenced to life in prison for 1.5 ounces in the US. Amazing.

https://reason.com/2021/05/13/this-38-year-old-man-will-spend-life-in-prison-over-1-5-ounces-of-marijuana/

[Nate505]

Anyone who thinks Griner deserves the 9.5 on top of the 6 months she already served for a couple vape cartridges has an agenda against her, her political stance, or both. This sentence is a damn tragedy, and IMO if the US/Russia wasn’t in a proxy war right now, she would be a free woman right now.

What I don’t agree with is trading a Russian criminal for her. What’s stopping Russia from coming up with another BS excuse to prosecute another American? Are we just going to release all their criminals for them, or do we not care because this said American isn’t a celebrity or public figure?

I think its the hypocrisy of it. The US is so desperate to free her, but yet so many Americans have been locked up for weed in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/

In 2010, the young Oklahoma mother, who had been caught selling $31 worth of marijuana to a police informant after financial troubles caused her to lose her home, was sentenced to 12 years in prison. It was her first-ever offense, and the lengthy sentence drew national attention, sparking a movement that led to her early release.

If their isn't sympathy in the US for that Oklahoma mother why do people expect Russia to do better.

Not the exact same situation but still ridiculous. Lots of other stories similar to this happen in the US, why not just legalize it, why is it still a schedule 1 drug, why not help all these people get out of jail and clear their records so they can live a normal life.

The thing is, that story made national news (I remember when it happened) because it was so outrageous. And there was sympathy for her, though there were also the usual "she should have just obeyed the law" people as well (one of the differences between her and Griner is that she kind of lived in Oklahoma and was from there, and didn't go there to take another job). Her sentence was reduced by 80%, though she is like on parole forever (which is stupid). In general nobody was giving a pat on the back to the **** Oklahoma county that gave her this sentence.

[MotownMadness]

Dude sentenced to life in prison for 1.5 ounces in the US. Amazing.

https://reason.com/2021/05/13/this-38-year-old-man-will-spend-life-in-prison-over-1-5-ounces-of-marijuana/

Obviously he just got out of prison afyer 8 years for armed burglary carrying felonies and then got caught with that. You cant just rack up multiple felonies or else they're gonna put you away.

[Nate505]

Dude sentenced to life in prison for 1.5 ounces in the US. Amazing.

https://reason.com/2021/05/13/this-38-year-old-man-will-spend-life-in-prison-over-1-5-ounces-of-marijuana/

Even if this gets successfully appealed, he'll still be in jail for life for murder.

Plus he wasn't really sentenced to life in prison for the possession, but because of stupid archaic 3 strikes laws. Pot shouldn't count against that, but at the same time, he could have been caught with 1.5 ounces a dozen times and not got life. The previous burglary conviction and possessing a firearm while a felon is what got him life as much as the pot conviction, with the burglary being the trigger.

[elias808]

Is it morally wrong to be locked up over some weed, yes. Did Griner play with fire and get burnt, also yes. It was ignorance or she thought she was above the law and that the rules of a foreign country don’t apply to her. Either way, the fault is on her and I see no reason why she shouldn’t do the time.

[azcatz11]

Is it morally wrong to be locked up over some weed, yes. Did Griner play with fire and get burnt, also yes. It was ignorance or she thought she was above the law and that the rules of a foreign country don’t apply to her. Either way, the fault is on her and I see no reason why she shouldn’t do the time.

I think everyone agrees her sentence is BS but some are wondering why she gets to cut the line when people have been locked up far longer than her for BS...and her supporters who argue equality for other issues are the ones being the loudest.

[MrBigShot]

It’s funny how people think that other countries should adopt our laws. Why?

...common sense? How about, try to rationalize why carrying weed should be a crime and why it should be a 9 year jail sentence. Alcohol is more dangerous both acutely and long-term and it's legal. Cigarettes are basically just legal slow acting poison. Does carrying weed harm anyone? Steve kerr literally uses it for back pain. A lot of celebrities have medicinal prescriptions for it before it was legalized in some states.

She broke a law so she should be punished, but why is controversial to call out a law in a country run by a dangerous luantic who sent young men to die in a conflict they don't necessarily agree with.

bruh the USA has far and away the largest prison population in the world. 20% of the world's prisoners are in a US prison or jail. over 2 million are in prison, 4.5 million more on parole.

your comment is absurd, certainly it isn't "common sense"

The US incarcerating people for stupid reasons and often with unreasonable sentences is not a good justification for other countries to also incarcerate people for stupid reasons. You replied to me like I'm some sort of blind patriot that will defend anything the US does.

[Goomba3666]

Is it morally wrong to be locked up over some weed, yes. Did Griner play with fire and get burnt, also yes. It was ignorance or she thought she was above the law and that the rules of a foreign country don’t apply to her. Either way, the fault is on her and I see no reason why she shouldn’t do the time.

I think everyone agrees her sentence is BS but some are wondering why she gets to cut the line when people have been locked up far longer than her for BS...and her supporters who argue equality for other issues are the ones being the loudest.

Dogwhistle isn't a dogwhistle.

Gets the job done on Realgm though.

[Johnny Bball]

I think he was saying that even though it would be stupid to be a fascist, for those that are already a fascist, it doesn't seem like a stupid way to fulfill their fascist ideals?

Every fascist that moved to the top to get their leaders in power get killed th roughout history. It is a standard in any authoritarian regime. So why else would you want to be a fascist if you weren't in charge, unless you were a complete sub, or pretending and a coward? Either is pathetic.

My impression of fascist that are not in power, but are supporting the power is exactly that - they are completely subs. I agree its pathetic, but I don't think the post you were quoting is saying what you thought.

Not it wasn't, just couldn't fins=d a better place to quote for it. Except for that one original post being stupid a question.

[Goomba3666]

I literally dislike most things about Brittney. Like... she exemplifies the mannerisms and personality of most dudes I wouldn't even kick it at the bar with.

She's an idiot that deserves some sort of fine/punishment in Russia for breaking the law.

However, siding with Russia on this, which follows a right wing culture trend for the last 6 years, is about as un-American/undemocratic as you can get.

[Soca]

So out of curiosity, if this was a random guy caught on a vacation with no luster to his name, what would the sentence be in that situation?

Given its russia im sure he would get similar case right now. No American should be in Russia right now.

Completely agree.

[mediocrityrules]

So out of curiosity, if this was a random guy caught on a vacation with no luster to his name, what would the sentence be in that situation?

Given its russia im sure he would get similar case right now. No American foreigner should be in Russia right now.

Completely agree.

FTFY

[Sofia]

USA: 40,000 Americans incarcerated for weed.

Russia: 1? American incarcerated for weed.

USA: *shocked Pikachu face*

Thats some pretty lazy data while not understanding laws and context that goes into those numbers over here

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[AussieRules]

America sends people to 20 years in prison for weed. The USA should be the last country pointing fingers at Russia

[Swift21]

She should have never went to Russia in the first place.

[JimmyPlopper]

America send people to 20 years in prison for weed. The USA should be the last country pointing fingers at Russia

Like any country, the USA is not a monolith. There is a marbled composition of people within the country with a spectrum of viewpoints and values. There has also been a recent history of legalization at the state level at a rapid pace. The people who are pointing out that this seems to be an outrageous penalty are also among the people who are eager to point out the same about the United States in the places that still criminalize these actions.

[JimmyPlopper]

She should have never went to Russia in the first place.

I want to go there - seems like it would be an adventure. I wouldn't want to bring my family though.

[NO-KG-AI]

America send people to 20 years in prison for weed. The USA should be the last country pointing fingers at Russia

Uh, the people that love seeing people (mostly people of color, no less) do long stints for weed are the ones that are on here and other places laughing and basically cheering for Griner to get sentenced.

The rest of us aren't being hypocrites like you want us to be.

[dshearn]

I think we should have a crap ton more people in prison, we should not be hearing about people committing theft and violence multiple times, hence I am all about 3 strike laws. I also don't smoke and have never been into recreational drugs (or prescribed for that matter), but generally weed people annoy me. The thing that gets me tho, we know the history of weed. We know why (cultural impact, and big business lobbying) it has been treated as by US law as uber dangerous. If the common person was asked what is a legal surrogate... they would say alcohol. I don't know, i don't even has an educated guess, but I would suspect the laws in Russia have a similar history to the USA in regards to crushing weed importing, cultivation and distribution.

I am ambivalent to Brittney Griner, if you know what the law is, don't break it, but 9 years seems extreme for a first-time offense.

[AussieRules]

America send people to 20 years in prison for weed. The USA should be the last country pointing fingers at Russia

Uh, the people that love seeing people (mostly people of color, no less) do long stints for weed are the ones that are on here and other places laughing and basically cheering for Griner to get sentenced.

The rest of us aren't being hypocrites like you want us to be.

I don’t want you to be hypocrites, all I’m saying is point the finger at your politicians and lawmakers first before even commenting on anything Russia. She should have educated herself on the laws of the land first before migrating there and breaking the law.

The USA jails foreign law breakers too before deporting them. Griner broke the law and should serve her punishment like any other person. Just because she’s an American shouldn’t warrant being given special treatment. You do the crime, you do the time.