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Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend

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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1821 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Aug 6, 2022 2:50 pm

Timantha wrote:This all started with Paul George not Harden imo. He signed a 4-5 year max with OKC and then asked for a trade to the Clips after one year


Players have been pushing for trades for decades. For example, Charles Barkley was disgruntled in Philly and pushed for a trade to the Suns then pushed for a trade to the Rockets.

While it’s somewhat common in today’s NBA, back then it was essentially unheard of for a player to demand a trade, put together a list of preferred destinations, and then have that request accommodated. But that’s seemingly exactly what Barkley did in ’96.


https://www.sportscasting.com/charles-barkley-hating-nba-superteams-hypocritical-given-comments-made-joined-hakeem-olajuwon-clyde-drexler-houston-rockets/

The issue today is how common and frequent it has become. It ruins the fan experience. Why pay $300+ to see a game if a player doesn’t even want to be there?
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1822 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Aug 6, 2022 2:55 pm

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I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad.


Whoa. Don’t be so hard on yourself breh. Just remember if it doesn’t end in .gif or .mp4 it won’t turn into anything.
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Post#1823 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:02 pm

3ballbomber wrote:In a study in Liechtenstein, limited breathing, through just 1 nostril substantially affects lateral quickness, balance & coordination overtime w/ worsening long term effects unless addressed w/ surgery.

Duncan is about to have the season of his life!

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Riley: get the surgery
Uncan: why?
Riley: I need to tra…I mean, need you to raise your value so we can tra…train hard and get your best and be able to include you in tra…trademarked championship parades.
Uncan: wow sure I’ll get the surgery coach!
Riley whispers to Zo: holy ****…I almost gave our intentions away.


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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1824 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:04 pm

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contract wrote:We need to trade Kyle Lowry for any useful player we can get for him. Declining, distracted, and unavailable, isn't going to do. We're trying to win a championship.


His value is at an all time low, it would be better to see if his offseason fitness turns him back into a good player, you know, the one we lost a second rounder for and $30M.

I understand that, and my problem isn't with his performance. It's him saying that the problem that was distracting him last season is still an ongoing problem. I'm sure it's more important than basketball, and I'm sure he deserves all the empathy in the world, but we have a closing championship window that we need to tend to. Going into the season with a guy that is not only in decline, but is also telling you that he may not be available when you need him, is not a winning plan.

Miami Heat's Kyle Lowry On Dealing With Issue That Kept Him Away From Team: "I'm Still Dealing With It."

SHANDEL RICHARDSON AUG 3, 2022 1:49 PM EDT

Last year Kyle Lowry dealt with a personal matter that kept him away from the Miami Heat for various stretches.

While Lowry has yet to disclose the issue, he said the matter affected him throughout the season and is still something he deals with...

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-news/miami-heats-kyle-lowry-on-dealing-with-issue-that-kept-him-away-from-team-im-still-dealing-with-it

Ah so he wants more vacations on the clock…FML


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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1825 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:15 pm

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Hopefully streak isn't in his underwear & is on the offensive end

On defense he’s Godzilla, on offense he’s a little scared boy wearing a t-Rex suit falling over


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Post#1826 » by Rapaz » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:23 pm

I dreamt last night that we beat the Nuggets in the 2023 Finals, with Herro hitting two clutch free throws in Denver to put the series away.

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Post#1827 » by HeatIn5 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:37 pm

Should I run it back? I think I want to run it back
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1828 » by wadenation305 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:57 pm

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I feel ya. I wasted about an hour trying to figure it out. Figured it out for the 1st time about time about 4 pages back. Now I can truly be one of the fellas

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I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad. I need to learn how to use this contraption. At least I can use emojis :lol:

Copy the url of the picture or gif, click on the Img button just above the posting box, and then paste the url between the tags.



Then wtf are the gif tags for ?!?! XD

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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1829 » by wadenation305 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 4:00 pm

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wadenation305 wrote:
I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad.


Whoa. Don’t be so hard on yourself breh. Just remember if it doesn’t end in .gif or .mp4 it won’t turn into anything.


XD ty! Missed that one too XD
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1830 » by AirP. » Sat Aug 6, 2022 4:12 pm

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Timantha wrote:This all started with Paul George not Harden imo. He signed a 4-5 year max with OKC and then asked for a trade to the Clips after one year

I'd be willing to bet OKC gave him a verbal agreement to try to move him where he wanted to go(it helps out both parties, OKC gets to resign him and he gets to go where he wants to go), they basically did the same thing for CP3.


I don't think it was their first choice. They probably wanted to be competitive and build around Russ and PG. Kawhi basically changed that OKC franchise by recruiting PG to LA. Also, the package the Clips gave back then was a historic package (Shai, Gallinari + all their picks and swaps). It was good enough for OKC to start a rebuild. When it comes to the Nets, no team currently is desperate for a 34 yo KD. The Clips were willing to offer everything cause they would get Kawhi in FA too. The James Harden to BKN trade also complicates things because the Nets don't control their picks. If they had their picks, it makes trading KD easier because they can just force a rebuild with the draft assets they acquired

As someone who lives in OKC, nobody here thought they'd be competitive past the first round nor had any chance of building upon what they currently had and absolutely no chance at a championship with those 2 guys. In my opinion, him extending in OKC was about P.George getting paid in place he enjoyed(he's loves fishing), OKC could retain an asset where'd they get more then nothing and if P.George wanted to go somewhere else they'd try to make it happen. Presti just happened to have the leverage that this would be a 2-player acquisition for the Clippers since it would also net them Kawhi. If this were your normal situation OKC would have opened up the bidding to get the most from P.George vs the whole NBA (outside the Clippers) saying oh wow... he was available. IMO, he was only available to where he wanted to go.

It may have been more of if you sign with OKC we'll send you to a team you'll ok and not just to the higher bidder because we've seen OKC utilize that at least 1 other time with CP3 to keep him happy the year he was in OKC with a bad roster. Presti has found a way to keep high level assets happy enough to take in players who don't want to be on a bad roster only to reroute them where they want to be. I would not be surprised if KD had an illegal verbal arrangement with "someone" in Brooklyn too but the owner isn't going along with it. It seems REALLY odd for that KD signed for 4 years instead of doing a 1&1s like LeBron would do to keep the franchise placating him or he'd walk. I get the money is nice but he was getting paid no matter what and for him it definitely wasn't worth losing control with a franchise.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1831 » by El Alonzo scowl » Sat Aug 6, 2022 4:53 pm

This offseason just keeps getting worse and worse. Get Lowry and Uncan out of here, bring in an actual pf damn it.
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Post#1832 » by AirP. » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:11 pm

With Miles Bridges in trouble with the law having felony charges on him (which he pleaded not guilty to), does this take PJ Washington off of the possible PF targets of Miami by the end of the season?
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Post#1833 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:41 pm

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Herro at 22 is on the Pacers timeline and yes I think Herro for Turner and Duarte is a solid deal for us.
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Post#1834 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:43 pm

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Herro at 22 is on the Pacers timeline and yes I think Herro for Turner and Duarte is a solid deal for us.


I think a lot is being said with Herro’s future on the Heat that he still has not been signed to a contract extension.
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Post#1835 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:46 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:
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Herro at 22 is on the Pacers timeline and yes I think Herro for Turner and Duarte is a solid deal for us.


I think a lot is being said with Herro’s future on the Heat that he still has not been signed to a contract extension.

Indiana had a lot of interest in Herro predraft. Duarte is an older prospect at 25 but for us he’d be cost controlled. This would allow us to extend Turner and lock up the front court for many years. What we lose in Herro’s scoring we gain tenfold with Turner and Bam locking up the interior on both ends. I’ll never worry about rebounding and shotblocking again. I wouldn’t even worry about Spo going small at the 4 with Turner patrolling down low.
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Post#1836 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:51 pm

Some of you taking every word you hear as the gospel are just setting yourselves up for disappointment.
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Post#1837 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:52 pm

AirP. wrote:With Miles Bridges in trouble with the law having felony charges on him (which he pleaded not guilty to), does this take PJ Washington off of the possible PF targets of Miami by the end of the season?

He’s there starting 4 now for the foreseeable future so I would say yes.
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Post#1838 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:53 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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Herro at 22 is on the Pacers timeline and yes I think Herro for Turner and Duarte is a solid deal for us.


I think a lot is being said with Herro’s future on the Heat that he still has not been signed to a contract extension.


Just that we don’t want to handicap ourselves this season if a star asks out or becomes available. If not we probably match an offer for him next summer like the suns with Ayton
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Post#1839 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:53 pm

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Post#1840 » by wadenation305 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 7:04 pm

One thing that gets me though..... I know people don't like the player movement. But teams literally trade people when ever they feel like it to where ever the hell they feel like it. Player movement is kinda power balance. What gets owners panties in a bunch is that THEY want to be the ones calling all the shots and feel as they have an employee to boss relationship. When in the NBA it doesn't work that way. Without the players you don't have a product. Without the owners you can still find someone to float the money lol. In fact if they got rid of these owners the players could get a way bigger slice of the pie. With out the players, owners have jack and diddly ****.

PS if you're a **** organization there is no mountain of picks will ever save you. What ever star you aquire will always want to leave unless you want to commit a quarter of a billion dollars to em.

I also know this is not a popular opinion but..... between 250 mil from a org I grown to dislike, to 190 mil from an org that is well run, has good culture and is generally a better situation for me? I take the 190 every day. After a certain amount of money you really don't see the difference unless you get that money paid in stocks cause taxes will rape you. But I'm also not the type of person to go blow 600k at the KOD to put multiple hoes through college.

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