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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#241 » by Asianiac_24 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 8:25 am

EH15 wrote:Might be a dumb question, but wouldn't Teo bunting down first be a smart play there?



Springer/Vlad/Teo/Kirk should never bunt. Even if Teo successfully drops the bunt down, who is he setting up? Bo Bichette the free swinger that strikes out a lot?
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#242 » by Hottie McShotty » Sat Aug 6, 2022 2:42 pm

Anyone have an explanation on the home and away splits for Berrios? No idea what is going on in his head when he pitches on the road. Do you want him pitching in a playoff series on the road?

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#243 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Aug 6, 2022 2:54 pm

Bichette belongs in the bottom third of the order with Tapia until he remembers how to hit. I'm happy to see Schneider gradually moving him down - would be happier if he put him in the 7-hole and be done with it. It sucks to have such an undisciplined hitter up in so many key situations.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#244 » by Raider917 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:20 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:Bichette belongs in the bottom third of the order with Tapia until he remembers how to hit. I'm happy to see Schneider gradually moving him down - would be happier if he put him in the 7-hole and be done with it. It sucks to have such an undisciplined hitter up in so many key situations.

how much trade value will he have in the winter?
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#245 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Aug 6, 2022 3:27 pm

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Lateral Quicks wrote:Bichette belongs in the bottom third of the order with Tapia until he remembers how to hit. I'm happy to see Schneider gradually moving him down - would be happier if he put him in the 7-hole and be done with it. It sucks to have such an undisciplined hitter up in so many key situations.

how much trade value will he have in the winter?


I don't know. It certainly isn't encouraging that his numbers have worsened with each year in the majors, and fallen off a cliff this year.

I don't think it's worth trading him this off-season unless another team is willing to overpay. His value is down too much. At this point we have to hope this season is an aberration and he returns to form next year.

I'm just happy we didn't give him that mega contract that was rumoured 1.5 years ago. That would be looking like an albatross right about now...
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#246 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Aug 6, 2022 5:10 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:Anyone have an explanation on the home and away splits for Berrios? No idea what is going on in his head when he pitches on the road. Do you want him pitching in a playoff series on the road?

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I don’t trust him pitching any game tbh

If the WC series started today, I’m fairly sure the Jays are going with Manoah, Gausman and a bullpen game.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#247 » by EH15 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 6:47 pm

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EH15 wrote:Might be a dumb question, but wouldn't Teo bunting down first be a smart play there?



Springer/Vlad/Teo/Kirk should never bunt. Even if Teo successfully drops the bunt down, who is he setting up? Bo Bichette the free swinger that strikes out a lot?

Bases loaded, 1 out, top of the 10th. If you make the call and everyone gets a good jump, isn't that a guaranteed run? How can they realistically get the runner at 3rd?

I might big braining this, but someone talk me out of this. I know some of you are super knowledgeable here. I'm less so, coming from a different perspective.

I'll concede that Teo's such a good hitter that even the suggestion of him laying down a bunt sounds crazy. But hear me out, what if it wasn't?
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#248 » by Schad » Sat Aug 6, 2022 6:56 pm

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Asianiac_24 wrote:
EH15 wrote:Might be a dumb question, but wouldn't Teo bunting down first be a smart play there?



Springer/Vlad/Teo/Kirk should never bunt. Even if Teo successfully drops the bunt down, who is he setting up? Bo Bichette the free swinger that strikes out a lot?

Bases loaded, 1 out, top of the 10th. If you make the call and everyone gets a good jump, isn't that a guaranteed run? How can they realistically get the runner at 3rd?

I might big braining this, but someone talk me out of this. I know some of you are super knowledgeable here. I'm less so, coming from a different perspective.


A suicide squeeze, with a guy who has never bunted in his entire major league career and a force play at home, is just an incredibly low-percentage play.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#249 » by s e n s i » Sat Aug 6, 2022 8:51 pm

i appreciate the humility to at least ask if bunting in any scenario would be a viable option, but that being said, bunting should be abolished from the game just so it doesn't need to be explained to the pro-bunt crowd one more time. bunting by design being acceptable has rightfully become such an edge-case scenario because the trade-off in terms of risk/reward is just so not worth it. it's one thing to have a productive out but it's another thing to willingly concede 1 of your team's 27 total outs in a game.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#251 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Aug 6, 2022 10:18 pm

Nobody is also ever going to bunt in that situation given there’s a force at home (unless of course you’re doing a suicide squeeze). And a suicide squeeze would be insanely crazy and requires Teoscar to execute something he never does against 95+ MPH.

Also why would you even be playing for 1 run in that spot given the Manfred runner for the Twins on the bottom half?
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#252 » by Raider917 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 11:08 pm

is there a rain delay? mlb.com usually have the gamecast up by now if there isnt
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#253 » by Raider917 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 11:20 pm

this could be a good day for the offense
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Post#254 » by Jago88 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 11:29 pm

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Post#255 » by Raider917 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 11:30 pm

Jago88 wrote:Jesus Bo

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#256 » by johanliebert » Sat Aug 6, 2022 11:50 pm

Why does biggio keep getting opportunities
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#257 » by Raider917 » Sat Aug 6, 2022 11:55 pm

why would the dodgers trade this guy for less experienced pitchers?
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Post#258 » by And1Skip » Sun Aug 7, 2022 12:03 am

Raider917 wrote:why would the dodgers trade this guy for less experienced pitchers?


heard he was running out of options and he didnt have a permanent role on their staff. I think similar to why they traded Stripling to the Jays. White should have a permanent spot for the rest of the season since Strip is injured and when he's back he'll either be starter or long-man.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#259 » by Jago88 » Sun Aug 7, 2022 12:30 am

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#260 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 7, 2022 12:46 am

Raider917 wrote:why would the dodgers trade this guy for less experienced pitchers?

Roster crunch going into next year + they have way better pitchers than us
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