Official Scottie Barnes Thread 3

[DG88]

Let me get this straight. Nick Nurse's coaching turns a defense first, pass first player without a shot coming into the league into the Rookie of the Year who is considered one of the most promising players and most valuable assets in the league ..... and he is ruining Scottie's development?

The problem is fans think that by giving Scottie the ball more to score is how you develop him. Mainly because scoring is one of those basketball skills that hypes fans and it's tangible. So I understand the sentiment. A lot of us including myself are guilty of this because of our excitement for his growth.

Still the Raptors are doing the right thing with his development by not putting a lot on him to grow naturally. He's a Lazer focused hard worker and he's going to get more efficient and handle the ball more as he matures. Just enjoy the ride we got a good one gents.

[HumbleRen]

Let me get this straight. Nick Nurse's coaching turns a defense first, pass first player without a shot coming into the league into the Rookie of the Year who is considered one of the most promising players and most valuable assets in the league ..... and he is ruining Scottie's development?

The problem is fans think that by giving Scottie the ball more to score is how you develop him. Mainly because scoring is one of those basketball skills that hypes fans and it's tangible. So I understand the sentiment. A lot of us including myself are guilty of this because of our excitement for his growth.

Still the Raptors are doing the right thing with his development by not putting a lot on him to grow naturally. He's a Lazer focused hard worker and he's going to get more efficient and handle the ball more as he matures. Just enjoy the ride we got a good one gents.

It's not really that, it's more so a critique of Nurse's offensive scheme .. well, the lack of it I mean.

[anotherhomer]

Nurse offense is fairly competent

Depends a lot on match hunting

He could throw in more pick qnd roll

[Los_29]

Telling a professional basketball organization with an amazing track record for developing players how to develop players is like someone with no medical background trying to tell a surgeon how to perform surgery.

[Gold Dragon]

Let me get this straight. Nick Nurse's coaching turns a defense first, pass first player without a shot coming into the league into the Rookie of the Year who is considered one of the most promising players and most valuable assets in the league ..... and he is ruining Scottie's development?

The problem is fans think that by giving Scottie the ball more to score is how you develop him. Mainly because scoring is one of those basketball skills that hypes fans and it's tangible. So I understand the sentiment. A lot of us including myself are guilty of this because of our excitement for his growth.

Still the Raptors are doing the right thing with his development by not putting a lot on him to grow naturally. He's a Lazer focused hard worker and he's going to get more efficient and handle the ball more as he matures. Just enjoy the ride we got a good one gents.

I was going to say that is a very generous description and that it is more likely the Dunning-Kruger effect at play, considering who made those comments.

But now I don’t need to actually say it.

[PoundTown]

Let me get this straight. Nick Nurse's coaching turns a defense first, pass first player without a shot coming into the league into the Rookie of the Year who is considered one of the most promising players and most valuable assets in the league ..... and he is ruining Scottie's development?

The problem is fans think that by giving Scottie the ball more to score is how you develop him. Mainly because scoring is one of those basketball skills that hypes fans and it's tangible. So I understand the sentiment. A lot of us including myself are guilty of this because of our excitement for his growth.

Still the Raptors are doing the right thing with his development by not putting a lot on him to grow naturally. He's a Lazer focused hard worker and he's going to get more efficient and handle the ball more as he matures. Just enjoy the ride we got a good one gents.

I was going to say that is a very generous description and that it is more likely the Dunning-Kruger effect at play, considering who made those comments.

But now I don’t need to actually say it.

Kawhi was never force fed anything and at his peak was arguably the best player in the game and a top 5 player in everyones opinion. Year 4 he averaged less than 20 points, but here we are. The Spurs organization in retrospect is praised for their role in developing Kawhi. And the truth is they should be to a degree; they made sure defense remained his calling card and he never developed those selfish, non-winning traits some high usage guards did. We developed Demar this way and Demar never really had to learn to play D.

It's an equal opportunity offence. To a degree, the players decide how much usage they have. Last year, our best option was Pascal trying to get the ball deep and attack or facilitate from there. That doesn't mean it needs to be the same this year, and hopefully Scottie improves so much, he is a 1B to Pascal this year, but getting upset we haven't given the keys completely to a 20 year old last year and a 21 year old this year is some pretty high expectations. Sounds like 24 year old expectations to me, and anything sooner is gravy.

[bon]

Bro how can you definitely say they know what they are doing while knowing that they "hardly ever ran plays" for their star rookie. Like run some plays for your future superstar stop making him "pay his dues" so that he can fit in 4th in the "hierarchy"

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Kawhi turned out pretty alright I think.

This strategy of development works so well because it lets your young star comfortably hone in their skills, focus on picking their spots, and attack quickly when they see an opening. We all saw how surgical of a scorer Kawhi was first hand and its obvious how this slower development track helped his game. Unfortunately that means it's going to take some patience from this fanbase for once so hopefully you people don't lose your minds in the meantime.

[WuTang_CMB]

Dont think anyone can critisize nick on how he used barnes this past season. We dont operate like okc or houston and let these guys run wild. Developing is not only raising ur skill but also learning how to play and how to play TO WIN.

Thats the difference between spurs/raps and all these garbage teams.

[Mikistan]

Bro how can you definitely say they know what they are doing while knowing that they "hardly ever ran plays" for their star rookie. Like run some plays for your future superstar stop making him "pay his dues" so that he can fit in 4th in the "hierarchy"

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Kawhi turned out pretty alright I think.

This strategy of development works so well because it lets your young star comfortably hone in their skills, focus on picking their spots, and attack quickly when they see an opening. We all saw how surgical of a scorer Kawhi was first hand and its obvious how this slower development track helped his game. Unfortunately that means it's going to take some patience from this fanbase for once so hopefully you people don't lose your minds in the meantime.

I saw Kawhi calling his own number a lot

[dTox]

Bro how can you definitely say they know what they are doing while knowing that they "hardly ever ran plays" for their star rookie. Like run some plays for your future superstar stop making him "pay his dues" so that he can fit in 4th in the "hierarchy"

Read on Twitter

Kawhi turned out pretty alright I think.

This strategy of development works so well because it lets your young star comfortably hone in their skills, focus on picking their spots, and attack quickly when they see an opening. We all saw how surgical of a scorer Kawhi was first hand and its obvious how this slower development track helped his game. Unfortunately that means it's going to take some patience from this fanbase for once so hopefully you people don't lose your minds in the meantime.

I saw Kawhi calling his own number a lot

Not until year 3, I was an avid Spurs fan because of Timmy, and have watched most of their games during that era. Kawhi was an afterthought on offence even in year 2

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[Courtside]

These Rico highlights are really helping my mentals. Lol Idk, I went through a breakup with my long time girlfriend this summer and honestly it killed all of my motivation and passion for life because I feel like a big piece of me is now gone, but these highlights for some reason are giving me some ray of sunshine. I love this sport and this team and following them is a big hobby for me, watching our team play is healing me I guess. I know it’s weird but what can I say .

Girls may come and girls may go
But the Raptors are always there, you know

[pingpongrac]

Bro how can you definitely say they know what they are doing while knowing that they "hardly ever ran plays" for their star rookie. Like run some plays for your future superstar stop making him "pay his dues" so that he can fit in 4th in the "hierarchy"

Read on Twitter

Kawhi turned out pretty alright I think.

This strategy of development works so well because it lets your young star comfortably hone in their skills, focus on picking their spots, and attack quickly when they see an opening. We all saw how surgical of a scorer Kawhi was first hand and its obvious how this slower development track helped his game. Unfortunately that means it's going to take some patience from this fanbase for once so hopefully you people don't lose your minds in the meantime.

I saw Kawhi calling his own number a lot

Scottie had a higher USG% in his rookie season than Kawhi did in his first 3 seasons and averaged more FGA/points too. There is no isolation data that I can find that goes back to the 2011-2013 seasons, but I can guarantee that Scottie called his own number more than Kawhi in his first 2 seasons at the very least.

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[Tor_Raps]

Nurse offense is fairly competent

Depends a lot on match hunting

He could throw in more pick qnd roll

To run effective pick and rolls, you need to be able to shoot, pass and/or have a really good roll man. No one on our team really fits that bill currently so who do you think we should run them with?

- Fred can shoot to take advantage of some looks but isn't a good passer or driver when forced.
- Trent doesnt know how to pass so when you take his shot away, hes confused
- Barnes/Siakam can't shoot well enough.
- OG cant dribble or has enough offensive awareness to do it

[Mikistan]

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Kawhi turned out pretty alright I think.

This strategy of development works so well because it lets your young star comfortably hone in their skills, focus on picking their spots, and attack quickly when they see an opening. We all saw how surgical of a scorer Kawhi was first hand and its obvious how this slower development track helped his game. Unfortunately that means it's going to take some patience from this fanbase for once so hopefully you people don't lose your minds in the meantime.

I saw Kawhi calling his own number a lot

Scottie had a higher USG% in his rookie season than Kawhi did in his first 3 seasons and averaged more FGA/points too. There is no isolation data that I can find that goes back to the 2011-2013 seasons, but I can guarantee that Scottie called his own number more than Kawhi in his first 2 seasons at the very least.

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I want to make it clear that my original post had nothing to do with a sole comparison to Kawhi. with all due respect to Kawhi, scottie is a better prospect and ROTY he doesnt need to be on the Kawhi you cant do much on offense meal-plan...

[Los_29]

I saw Kawhi calling his own number a lot

Scottie had a higher USG% in his rookie season than Kawhi did in his first 3 seasons and averaged more FGA/points too. There is no isolation data that I can find that goes back to the 2011-2013 seasons, but I can guarantee that Scottie called his own number more than Kawhi in his first 2 seasons at the very least.

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I want to make it clear that my original post had nothing to do with a sole comparison to Kawhi. with all due respect to Kawhi, scottie is a better prospect and ROTY he doesnt need to be on the Kawhi you cant do much on offense meal-plan...

Scottie averaged 10ppg in college.

[Mikistan]

Scottie had a higher USG% in his rookie season than Kawhi did in his first 3 seasons and averaged more FGA/points too. There is no isolation data that I can find that goes back to the 2011-2013 seasons, but I can guarantee that Scottie called his own number more than Kawhi in his first 2 seasons at the very least.

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I want to make it clear that my original post had nothing to do with a sole comparison to Kawhi. with all due respect to Kawhi, scottie is a better prospect and ROTY he doesnt need to be on the Kawhi you cant do much on offense meal-plan...

Scottie averaged 10ppg in college.

Scottie is a lottery pick

[Los_29]

I want to make it clear that my original post had nothing to do with a sole comparison to Kawhi. with all due respect to Kawhi, scottie is a better prospect and ROTY he doesnt need to be on the Kawhi you cant do much on offense meal-plan...

Scottie averaged 10ppg in college.

Scottie is a lottery pick

What's your point?

[WuTang_CMB]

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[TNRaps4life]

If Josh Giddey is 6'8, then scottie is 6'9" because he stands wide.

https://instagram.com/stories/ya.boy.scottie/2899918850067787406?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

[WuTang_CMB]

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