Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend

[wadenation305]

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No $hit……

Didn't happen for KD def won't happen for DM.

[wadenation305]

Not Happening / Not enough assets
1 Lebron James
2 Steph Curry
3 Giannis Antetokounmpo
4 Luka Donic
5 Jayson Tatum
6 Trae Young
7 Ja Morant
8 James Harden
9 Joel Embiid
10 Devon Booker
11 Lamelo Ball
12 Nikola Jokic
13 Deandre Ayton
14 Jaylen Brown
15 Brandon Ingram
16 Draymond Green
17 Rudy Gobert
18 Klay Thompson
19 Anthony Edwards
20 Khris Middleton
21 Karl-Anthony Towns
22 Bradley Beal
23 Mikal Bridges
24 Jaylen Brounson
25 Darius Garland
26 Paul George
27 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
28 Jerami Grant
29 Tyrese Hailiburton
30 Jrue Holiday
31 De’Andre Hunter
32 Jaren Jackson Jr
33 Damian Lillard
34 Tyrese Maxey
35 CJ McCollum
36 Kawhi Leonard
37 Donovan Mitchell
38 Christian Wood
39 Zion Williamson

Possible but why?
1 Demar Derozen
2 Nikola Vucevic
3 Myles Turner
4 Ben Simmons
5 D’Angelo Russel
6 Julius Randle
7 Kevin Love
8 Kyrie Irving
9 Jonathan Issac
10 Serge Ibaka
11 Buddy Hield
12 Gordon Hayward
13 Tobias Harris
14 Aaron Gordon

It's gonna have to come from within boys, cause I don't really foresee anything really useful becoming available at a price we can compete against.

[AirP.]

One thing that gets me though..... I know people don't like the player movement. But teams literally trade people when ever they feel like it to where ever the hell they feel like it. Player movement is kinda power balance. What gets owners panties in a bunch is that THEY want to be the ones calling all the shots and feel as they have an employee to boss relationship. When in the NBA it doesn't work that way. Without the players you don't have a product. Without the owners you can still find someone to float the money lol. In fact if they got rid of these owners the players could get a way bigger slice of the pie. With out the players, owners have jack and diddly ****.

PS if you're a **** organization there is no mountain of picks will ever save you. What ever star you aquire will always want to leave unless you want to commit a quarter of a billion dollars to em.

I also know this is not a popular opinion but..... between 250 mil from a org I grown to dislike, to 190 mil from an org that is well run, has good culture and is generally a better situation for me? I take the 190 every day. After a certain amount of money you really don't see the difference unless you get that money paid in stocks cause taxes will rape you. But I'm also not the type of person to go blow 600k at the KOD to put multiple hoes through college.

The league needs to have rules in place to give every team in its league a fair shot even though certain cities will have a competitive advantage built into their market. The players are going against their contracts by not playing or forcing their way out. If you really want to fix this, maybe the players should push to loosen up the "no-trade" rules to allow teams and players enter a binding contract that lets the player have the option to choose where he does or doesn't go, and the team understands that they just can't trade a player to somewhere that player just doesn't want to go.

Allowing the players to basically go against their contract is just wrong and will end up hurting the team if it continues to go the way it's been heading. At least with LeBron he did his moves right, he utilized his FA status to push teams to do what he wanted, he did a bunch of those 1+1s where he gave away long-term financial security to give himself more power in the organization. Signing a contract and then telling that team you don't want to stay is wrong, the top players need to sign shorter contracts if they want to maintain a level of control in the league. Also... this is only being done by top players who are being paid the top 10% of contracts in the league, most players are more than happy to be playing a sport that they love for millions of dollars, I'm not saying their 100% happy where they are but they understand it's a give and take to have a league like this.

[MorbidHEAT]

Is Dwight Howard still available? Didn't he have a decent season last season or was that the year before?

[HeatFanLifer]

OP healed Duncan Robinson put that on his resume

OP’s accomplishments this thread:
1)LMA rumors.
2)Duncan Robinson had surgery and says he’s ok.
3)Dwight Howard FA discussion

That is all. Shut this thread down. He’s done.

Spoiler:

[goodboy]

The most boring thread of all time goes to this one.

My god I feel like I aged 5 years into the future.

[IggieCC]

The most boring thread of all time goes to this one.

My god I feel like I aged 5 years into the future.

abyss of nothingness >>> Jamal Cain signing

[IggieCC]

I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad.

Whoa. Don’t be so hard on yourself breh. Just remember if it doesn’t end in .gif or .mp4 it won’t turn into anything.

I can't let this slide brehs

I have failed a few times in my most glorious OP career, some say GOAT but I digress. but ATL GT isn't my thing at all WN305 must have been confused me with the scum pokemon poster. off the top of my head my ever so forgettable blemishes are:

1. Phat loss to Washington Wizards with no starters Grayson Matthew Ish Smith starting
2. PHat loss to Golden State Warriors without Steph, Klay, and Dray
3 Phat loss to washed Isaiah Thomas led Lakers

NGL they hurt my man

[BenoUdrihFTL]

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Herro at 22 is on the Pacers timeline and yes I think Herro for Turner and Duarte is a solid deal for us.

I'd be down with a Herro for Turner + Duarte swap if we could also acquire Sexton to replace Herro's bench scoring

Problem is the only salary we can use to match would be Duncan so it's either one trade or the other but not both

[wadenation305]

One thing that gets me though..... I know people don't like the player movement. But teams literally trade people when ever they feel like it to where ever the hell they feel like it. Player movement is kinda power balance. What gets owners panties in a bunch is that THEY want to be the ones calling all the shots and feel as they have an employee to boss relationship. When in the NBA it doesn't work that way. Without the players you don't have a product. Without the owners you can still find someone to float the money lol. In fact if they got rid of these owners the players could get a way bigger slice of the pie. With out the players, owners have jack and diddly ****.

PS if you're a **** organization there is no mountain of picks will ever save you. What ever star you aquire will always want to leave unless you want to commit a quarter of a billion dollars to em.

I also know this is not a popular opinion but..... between 250 mil from a org I grown to dislike, to 190 mil from an org that is well run, has good culture and is generally a better situation for me? I take the 190 every day. After a certain amount of money you really don't see the difference unless you get that money paid in stocks cause taxes will rape you. But I'm also not the type of person to go blow 600k at the KOD to put multiple hoes through college.

The league needs to have rules in place to give every team in its league a fair shot even though certain cities will have a competitive advantage built into their market. The players are going against their contracts by not playing or forcing their way out. If you really want to fix this, maybe the players should push to loosen up the "no-trade" rules to allow teams and players enter a binding contract that lets the player have the option to choose where he does or doesn't go, and the team understands that they just can't trade a player to somewhere that player just doesn't want to go.

Allowing the players to basically go against their contract is just wrong and will end up hurting the team if it continues to go the way it's been heading. At least with LeBron he did his moves right, he utilized his FA status to push teams to do what he wanted, he did a bunch of those 1+1s where he gave away long-term financial security to give himself more power in the organization. Signing a contract and then telling that team you don't want to stay is wrong, the top players need to sign shorter contracts if they want to maintain a level of control in the league. Also... this is only being done by top players who are being paid the top 10% of contracts in the league, most players are more than happy to be playing a sport that they love for millions of dollars, I'm not saying their 100% happy where they are but they understand it's a give and take to have a league like this.

I feel like every team has a fair shot. There is a salary cap and limitations on what you can offer a player. It's really no one else's fault if the FO is so incompetent that they can't build a team. For example, you switch the Heat's FO with SAC's FO this last season and I'm sure we don't even make it past the first round. Keep in mind demanding trades and to specific teams was a thing that's been happening since the way early 2000's. Shaq got here exactly that way demanding a trade to only Miami. You can't force players to go to crappy teams or where they don't want to and expect them and their families to be happy. **** I'm dying to get out of Miami and my girl is married to this place lol. Millions or not that doesn't change.

Also you have to consider, that in a way. A team owner trading a player out of nowhere to wherever the hell they want and telling him to pack his **** up and leave is kind of the same thing, except the shoe is on the other foot. The player when he signed that contract, he signed to play for the specific team he signed to, the one he wanted to be in. Basically, selling him off to someone else is in a way, not honoring the contract. The only saving grace is that the bag is guaranteed, but the bag isn't the everything of life either.

[contract]

I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad. I need to learn how to use this contraption. At least I can use emojis

Copy the url of the picture or gif, click on the Img button just above the posting box, and then paste the url between the tags.

Then wtf are the gif tags for ?!?! XD

If you mean the gfycat tags, they are only for gifs from the gfycat.com website.

RealGM should have a tutorial on all this, but I think this is all there is ... https://forums.realgm.com/boards/faq.php#f3r3:~:text=Top-,Can%20I%20post%20images%3F,-Yes%2C%20images%20can

[AirP.]

One thing that gets me though..... I know people don't like the player movement. But teams literally trade people when ever they feel like it to where ever the hell they feel like it. Player movement is kinda power balance. What gets owners panties in a bunch is that THEY want to be the ones calling all the shots and feel as they have an employee to boss relationship. When in the NBA it doesn't work that way. Without the players you don't have a product. Without the owners you can still find someone to float the money lol. In fact if they got rid of these owners the players could get a way bigger slice of the pie. With out the players, owners have jack and diddly ****.

PS if you're a **** organization there is no mountain of picks will ever save you. What ever star you aquire will always want to leave unless you want to commit a quarter of a billion dollars to em.

I also know this is not a popular opinion but..... between 250 mil from a org I grown to dislike, to 190 mil from an org that is well run, has good culture and is generally a better situation for me? I take the 190 every day. After a certain amount of money you really don't see the difference unless you get that money paid in stocks cause taxes will rape you. But I'm also not the type of person to go blow 600k at the KOD to put multiple hoes through college.

The league needs to have rules in place to give every team in its league a fair shot even though certain cities will have a competitive advantage built into their market. The players are going against their contracts by not playing or forcing their way out. If you really want to fix this, maybe the players should push to loosen up the "no-trade" rules to allow teams and players enter a binding contract that lets the player have the option to choose where he does or doesn't go, and the team understands that they just can't trade a player to somewhere that player just doesn't want to go.

Allowing the players to basically go against their contract is just wrong and will end up hurting the team if it continues to go the way it's been heading. At least with LeBron he did his moves right, he utilized his FA status to push teams to do what he wanted, he did a bunch of those 1+1s where he gave away long-term financial security to give himself more power in the organization. Signing a contract and then telling that team you don't want to stay is wrong, the top players need to sign shorter contracts if they want to maintain a level of control in the league. Also... this is only being done by top players who are being paid the top 10% of contracts in the league, most players are more than happy to be playing a sport that they love for millions of dollars, I'm not saying their 100% happy where they are but they understand it's a give and take to have a league like this.

I feel like every team has a fair shot. There is a salary cap and limitations on what you can offer a player. It's really no one else's fault if the FO is so incompetent that they can't build a team. For example, you switch the Heat's FO with SAC's FO this last season and I'm sure we don't even make it past the first round. Keep in mind demanding trades and to specific teams was a thing that's been happening since the way early 2000's. Shaq got here exactly that way demanding a trade to only Miami. You can't force players to go to crappy teams or where they don't want to and expect them and their families to be happy. **** I'm dying to get out of Miami and my girl is married to this place lol. Millions or not that doesn't change.

When you join the NBA and the NBPA you AGREE to the league's rules, so YES, the NBA can send you to teams that you may not like, you can be drafted by a team you don't like. Don't like the rule, have the NBPA bring it up and try to change it or go to a different league. I really don't understand why people feel it's ok for players to just ignore their legally binding contracts, especially when they signed with that particular team like KD did.

Not every team has a fair shot, not even close. There are teams/organizations that understand that they're not a free agent destination because of their location, the only recourse those smaller market teams have been to offer larger contracts in hopes the player picks them over someone else. Now, in your view, that player that signed for a lot more money to go to a lesser destination should have the right to force a trade? Nah... that's a bunch of bull#()*$. This is one of the biggest gripes with the Haliburton trade last year, Sacramento isn't a good destination and Haliburton WANTED to be there, so it wasn't just about the talent being exchanged in the trade but Sacramento's ability to retain really good players in this current era.

[contract]

The most boring thread of all time goes to this one.

My god I feel like I aged 5 years into the future.

Since you're 5 years ahead ... Did we get Durant?

[AirP.]

The most boring thread of all time goes to this one.

My god I feel like I aged 5 years into the future.

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[HeatFanLifer]

The most boring thread of all time goes to this one.

My god I feel like I aged 5 years into the future.

Since you're 5 years ahead ... Did we get Durant?

5 years into future HFL here. We were going to sign him after his contract ended, but Spo chose to keep UD on the roster instead.

[al bondiga]

Well guys! it looks like we're going to have to settle for someone like Bojan B. From the Pacers... play him with bam and our fabulous small ball strategy

[Daffy]

So I think this whole Kevin Durant meeting with the owner this week was a BS report. It originated from a writer at Heavy called Steve Bulpett. None of the top NBA insiders confirmed it such as Shams, Woj, or even Windhorst as of late. Whole week and no news came of this report. I say this to say no new news on the KD front. Just another guy throwing s*** at the wall hoping it stuck. For an issue so big something would have came out from that meeting if it did indeed happen.

[3ballbomber]

Hope an update soon from ICC regarding the meeting that gives indication where this thing is headed.

Running it back is fine w/ me w/ potential for movements trade deadline or nxt offseason. I've loved watching this team play regardless of results. I'm all about the process & not always about the wins & shiny trophies. PJ was nvr about that Miami Heat so I ain't gone miss him but I'm excited to watch Dipo's season, what Bam has in store & seeing Herro ball w/ a chip on his shoulder after an offseason of uncertainty regarding trades. It wld be a hoot if all those 3 players ball out & have fans relieved we didn't trade the farm for 34yo player.

I'ma keep my zen-like patience regardless & ride w/ this team.

[3ballbomber]

It's like Chinese whispers isn't it

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[Daffy]

It's like Chinese whispers isn't it

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I hope you don't believe this....