Lakers Trade IDEAS

[zuju]

Lakers in: Johnathan Issac(17.4M), Markelle Fultz (16.5M), Mike Conley (22.7M)
Lakers out: Westbrook (47M), THT (10.2M) / Nunn(5.2M) + Stanley Johnson(2.3M)
Total Salary in: 56.6M Total Salary out: 57.2M / 54.5M
Justification: Forming nightmare defensive partner with AD, Conley as secondary ball handler, Fultz a guard full of potential to be good. Risk of injuries though.

Jazz in: Westbrook (47M), Terrence Ross (11.5M)
Jazz out: Mike Conley (22.7M), Bojan Bogdanovic (19.5M), Jordan Clarkson(13.3M)
Total Salary in: 58.5M Total Salary out: 55.5M
Justification: Clear 58 plus Million of Cap space after this season

Magic in: Bojan Bogdanovic (19.5M), Jordan Clarkson(13.3M) & THT (10.2M)
Magic out: Johnathan Issac(17.4M), Markelle Fultz (16.5M), Terrence Ross (11.5M)
Total Salary in: 43M Total Salary out: 45.4M
Justification: Issac may be deemed surplus and hinder growth of Paolo Banchero. Get some veteran presence from Bogdanovic. An excellent 6th man in Clarkson and another young dude in THT / Nunn & Jonhson who is/are more cost controlled and less risk of injury

Picks are definitely needed to sweeten the deal. Personally, I would want to keep THT. If this trade goes through and Issac and Fultz are healthy, the lakers will be dangerous.

[zimpy27]

These Randle rumors may have something behind them. I think it happens with Michell to Knicks trade.

And could be something like this:

Lakers get Randle, Beverley, Clarkson
Knicks get Mitchell, Bojan
Jazz get Westbrook, Fournier, Grimes, DAL23FRP, DET23FRP, NYK23swap, NYK24FRP, MIL25FRP, NYK25swap, NYK26FRP

Beverley, Reaves, LeBron, Randle, Davis -- Lonnie, Clarkson, THT, JTA, Bryant -- Nunn
Beverley is key to Randle fit, Clarkson doesn't really matter and may not be involved.


The Randles fit comes back to Ham trying to replicate Bucks offense and bring back size like the 2020 Lakers had, not a perfect fit talent for talent but positional similarities for sure:

Defensive guard: Jrue - Beverley
Playmaker SF: Middleton - LeBron
Playmaker PF: Giannis - Randle
Stretch defensive C: BroLo - Davis
Glue guy wing defenders: Connaughton+Tucker - Reaves+JTA+THT
Backup stretch big: Portis - Bryant
Backup guards: Teague+DDV+Forbes - Nunn+Lonnie+Clarkson

Based on new comments by Scotto, I think this trade was discussed or something close to it.

[Slava]

These Randle rumors may have something behind them. I think it happens with Michell to Knicks trade.

And could be something like this:

Lakers get Randle, Beverley, Clarkson
Knicks get Mitchell, Bojan
Jazz get Westbrook, Fournier, Grimes, DAL23FRP, DET23FRP, NYK23swap, NYK24FRP, MIL25FRP, NYK25swap, NYK26FRP

Beverley, Reaves, LeBron, Randle, Davis -- Lonnie, Clarkson, THT, JTA, Bryant -- Nunn
Beverley is key to Randle fit, Clarkson doesn't really matter and may not be involved.


The Randles fit comes back to Ham trying to replicate Bucks offense and bring back size like the 2020 Lakers had, not a perfect fit talent for talent but positional similarities for sure:

Defensive guard: Jrue - Beverley
Playmaker SF: Middleton - LeBron
Playmaker PF: Giannis - Randle
Stretch defensive C: BroLo - Davis
Glue guy wing defenders: Connaughton+Tucker - Reaves+JTA+THT
Backup stretch big: Portis - Bryant
Backup guards: Teague+DDV+Forbes - Nunn+Lonnie+Clarkson

Based on new comments by Scotto, I think this trade was discussed or something close to it.

I reckon Lakers send a 27 pick and take back Beverley, Beasley and Bogdanovic to keep the cap clear for Irving.

I don’t see any situation where they compromise long term flexibility for Randle, considering they haven’t given longer term deals to anyone beyond 23, other than Davis and THT.

[loveshaq786]

Rudy gay needs to be in the mix

Gay, clarkson, bogz, Beverly.... For Westbrook.

We take on more salary for utah... And should not have to throw a pic in

Than trade Beverly or clarkson and THT ... for randle. Randle will come alive on this team.

The expiring of bogz should be enough for hield

Gay, randle, Beverly or clarkson, and hield... For Westbrook and THT... Is a great return and gives us great fits.

[zimpy27]

These Randle rumors may have something behind them. I think it happens with Michell to Knicks trade.

And could be something like this:

Lakers get Randle, Beverley, Clarkson
Knicks get Mitchell, Bojan
Jazz get Westbrook, Fournier, Grimes, DAL23FRP, DET23FRP, NYK23swap, NYK24FRP, MIL25FRP, NYK25swap, NYK26FRP

Beverley, Reaves, LeBron, Randle, Davis -- Lonnie, Clarkson, THT, JTA, Bryant -- Nunn
Beverley is key to Randle fit, Clarkson doesn't really matter and may not be involved.


The Randles fit comes back to Ham trying to replicate Bucks offense and bring back size like the 2020 Lakers had, not a perfect fit talent for talent but positional similarities for sure:

Defensive guard: Jrue - Beverley
Playmaker SF: Middleton - LeBron
Playmaker PF: Giannis - Randle
Stretch defensive C: BroLo - Davis
Glue guy wing defenders: Connaughton+Tucker - Reaves+JTA+THT
Backup stretch big: Portis - Bryant
Backup guards: Teague+DDV+Forbes - Nunn+Lonnie+Clarkson

Based on new comments by Scotto, I think this trade was discussed or something close to it.

I reckon Lakers send a 27 pick and take back Beverley, Beasley and Bogdanovic to keep the cap clear for Irving.

I don’t see any situation where they compromise long term flexibility for Randle, considering they haven’t given longer term deals to anyone beyond 23, other than Davis and THT.

Yeah I think that's possible, though it wouldn't need to be a 3 team trade for that deal..
If they are making it a 3 team trade then only advantage is a TPE or Lakers are taking on Rose.

Maybe Rose, Beverley, Bojan

[zimpy27]

Put this on the trade board..

Lakers get Rose, Beverley, Beasley, Bojan
Lakers give Westbrook, THT, LAL26swap, LAL27FRP

Beverley, Beasley, Bojan, LeBron, Davis
Rose, Lonnie, Reaves, JTA, Bryant
Nunn, Christie, Brown, SJ, Jones

This trade accomplishes a couple things:
- upgrades shooting and makes the team a threat this year.
- provides Lakers with expirings and team options next offseason so that they can have Davis and LeBron on books with $37m capspace.

[DanishLakerFan]

Buddy and Myles. Just get it done.

[TylersLakers]

Buddy and Myles. Just get it done.

This is basically where I'm at. It doesn't need to be right now, but if push comes to shove I'm throwing in the 2nd 1st round pick and getting off Westbrook for that. You'd also still have THT + Nunn for a separate deal. Beverley, Eric Gordon, etc.

[loveshaq786]

Cam, Fournier, and randle is a great return for Westbrook... Every one of those players are serviceable

I would trade Fournier and the rights to a frp pick swap for buddy hield.

Best way to keep our picks... And have flexibility. I van see us adding cam and tht with another pick for turner in thst same deal

[wco81]

Cam who?


Unless a team is desperate to clear cap space for next season, it's hard to see WB alone fetching much in return.

Presumably that is what Lebron and the Lakers are talking about, what future assets the team will trade to get help now.

Otherwise, Lebron would have signed his extension already?

Understandable that the team doesn't want to give up FRPs.

Also understandable that Lebron wants them to do so to get immediate help, since that's what he's demanded all his career.

[MAMBAEMD]

It's really a balance between getting immediate help, keeping future (next year) cap space flexibility, keeping as much FRPs as possible for assets, and getting WB off the team one way or another.

It will be a monumental task to accomplish all those goals perfectly. So the Lakers will have to compromise on something.

Hield and Turner comes very close, specially if done with one FRP going out.
The Jazz deal is also excellent specially if we get Clarkson and Beverly which will give us athleticism and scoring (Clarkson) and perimeter defense (Beverly), while keeping cap space open for Kyrie next year.

Including Randle is a bigger gamble in my view because it potentially closes a lot of doors for us with his contract, and I'm not sure the ROI is that good.

[loveshaq786]

It's really a balance between getting immediate help, keeping future (next year) cap space flexibility, keeping as much FRPs as possible for assets, and getting WB off the team one way or another.

It will be a monumental task to accomplish all those goals perfectly. So the Lakers will have to compromise on something.

Hield and Turner comes very close, specially if done with one FRP going out.
The Jazz deal is also excellent specially if we get Clarkson and Beverly which will give us athleticism and scoring (Clarkson) and perimeter defense (Beverly), while keeping cap space open for Kyrie next year.

Including Randle is a bigger gamble in my view because it potentially closes a lot of doors for us with his contract, and I'm not sure the ROI is that good.

Bogz, gay, Clarkson, and Beverly for Westbrook works.... We take on more salary for them... Would definitely include a frp swap for this trade

I would risk trading bogz and tht for randle or terry rozier if possible... Or heild. Multiple options to be had

[zimpy27]

Buddy and Myles. Just get it done.

This is basically where I'm at. It doesn't need to be right now, but if push comes to shove I'm throwing in the 2nd 1st round pick and getting off Westbrook for that. You'd also still have THT + Nunn for a separate deal. Beverley, Eric Gordon, etc.

I don't like Hield and his lack of defense at the 2 is going to be a problem in the RS if you plan to start Turner.. Hield has to be able to defend opposing PGs and Lakers need to start Reaves or a defender that can defend best opposing player 1 to 4. LeBron can't be defending the opponents best wing in the RS, that's a recipe for disaster.

I just don't see it working well enough to be worth the picks. And if you spend picks then the team ceiling has to be as high as championship contention or it has to be a decent chance while having expirings so that Lakers can reload with free talent in 2023 offseason.

I really like Turner on the Lakers but I'd rather this team than have Hield forcing in starter minutes:
LeBron, Reaves, THT, Davis, Turner
Nunn, Lonnie, SJ, JTA, Bryant

The absolute ideal combo is Kyrie and Turner or GTJ and Turner

[zuju]

Honestly, I am not on the Hield or Beverley ship. One with very good offense (3 pt shots) with no defense and one with good defense and suck on the other end.

The second problem a lot of us deviated was the willingness to include picks. Some do not want to send out any picks for WB while most are willing to send out a pick to get rid of WB. Some are even so willing to give out 2 FRPs for the same purpose.

For me, it all depends on the return and the potential of that team. Of course, if it means we can get a Donovan Mitchell back, I am willing to give up both 2027 & 2029 FRPs. But we are talking about turner and Hield, I doubt we can be a serious contender. Turner is great. Hield may be exploited in the playoff. Fit-wise, those Utah trades fit us. Yet, do they worth a FRP or even 2 ? IMO, No. Kyrie is a knucklehead. I don't really want him putting on the Lakers jersey, not to mention to give up a FRP for him.

Before all those AD and LBJ injuries, Lakers were not playing very well. They still maintained themselves as the 6th seed. Rotation changed forever due to injuries and Vogel's trial also greatly affected the team performance. I reckon keeping WB until trade deadline for more opportunity is a good idea. WB's value is rock bottom. If he plays better, we can trade for better player. Rest LBJ more and let WB take that role. Their style of play overlapped quite a bit. Showcase WB more and save LBJ's leg in the first half of the season is what I see the best way to trade WB.

[stan francisco]

The Pacers have a roster that will take them nowhere.

I’ll say it again, they’re crazy not to take on RW’s $47M expiring and they’ll regret it big time come December-January.


Does Sexton play defense and pass the ball well?

[chrbal]

The Pacers have a roster that will take them nowhere.

I’ll say it again, they’re crazy not to take on RW’s $47M expiring and they’ll regret it big time come December-January.


Does Sexton play defense and pass the ball well?

1- which is kind of the point.

2- why would they regret it? Unless the Lakers are prepared to overpay I don’t see why they’d regret it

[stan francisco]

The Pacers have a roster that will take them nowhere.

I’ll say it again, they’re crazy not to take on RW’s $47M expiring and they’ll regret it big time come December-January.


Does Sexton play defense and pass the ball well?

1- which is kind of the point.

2- why would they regret it? Unless the Lakers are prepared to overpay I don’t see why they’d regret it

Are you saying that they’re trying to get nowhere, that’s the point?

I could be wrong but if your two best players are Buddy Hield and Myles Turner, you’re not winning championships anytime soon. Not against the Heat, Celtics, Nets, Hawks, Sixers. The west? Forget it. No matter how promising the rest of their youth, they’re not winning rings without stars who can dominate. Hield and Turner are not that.

Maybe they have a long term plan to add a bonafide star and are comfortable not contending for a few years until they find the right one. Maybe Hield and Myles are a part of that winning vision or maybe $47M off the books around the deadline would free up the GM to design the tip of their spear a bit better than that. If I were the GM, I’d want to redo that part with a fresh $47M.

Could they do better than a $47M expiring by trading those two? Not sure what the FA situation of 2023 is but $47M is lots.

There’s also a $6.6M Justin Holiday trade exception they can use, too. Maybe a third team is needed,

[wco81]

Pacers aren't signing big free agents, certainly not too many max level players.

Best player is probably Haliburton and maybe Mathurin if he lives up to expectations.

Bleacher Report claims Lakers are willing to add the FRPs to trade WB.

[Danny Darko]

Pacers aren't signing big free agents, certainly not too many max level players.

Best player is probably Haliburton and maybe Mathurin if he lives up to expectations.

Bleacher Report claims Lakers are willing to add the FRPs to trade WB.

Turner and Hield is still better to me than Kyrie (the flat earth ghost). so yeah.

[loveshaq786]

Can Lakers offer three first-round picks for Kevin Durant?

I think we should concentrate on him solely. If we can get him for Westbrook and three picks, that would be phenomenal.

I think we shouldn't offer any assets for Kyrie Irving because I believe that he will be bought out.