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Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#361 » by Parataxis » Mon Aug 8, 2022 4:09 pm

anj wrote:People questioning the rule either have very short memories or didn't live through these:



Home-plate collisions were madness.


Yup. This is exactly why the new rules were needed. It's like sliding into second spikes up - maybe it had a time and a place, but it's just not baseball anymore.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#362 » by xAIRNESSx » Mon Aug 8, 2022 4:21 pm

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polo007 wrote:Overturned call results in Baldelli's ejection, Twins' 3-2 loss to Blue Jays - StarTribune.com

Rocco Baldelli threw his cap, kicked dirt on home plate and screamed at a pair of umpires. But his fury was directed at someone 1,200 miles away.

The normally unflappable Twins manager unloaded his anger at home plate umpire Marty Foster and crew chief Alan Porter after Foster's judgment — that Gary Sanchez had tagged Whit Merrifield out at home plate, ending the 10th inning and keeping the game tied — was overruled in New York by replay umpire Jordan Baker.


His verdict: That Sanchez had violated the rule against blocking home plate, that he had not given Merrifield the required sliding path. Merrifield was ruled safe — scoring the eventual winning run in the Blue Jays' 3-2 victory — Baldelli was ejected, and the Twins grudgingly, bitterly settled for a split of the rowdy four-game series.

"That's beyond embarrassing for our game, for all the players out there," Baldelli fumed in a brief, profanity-laced postgame interview. "It's one of the worst moments I think we've seen of umpiring in any game I've ever been a part of in baseball. It was pathetic, what just played out."

Potentially critical, too. The Twins' two-game AL Central lead over Cleveland was sliced in half by the loss, with a road trip to Los Angeles, where the Dodgers own the best record in baseball, up next on Tuesday.

"It's a game that may have playoff implications at some point. And to have it taken away from us, it's tough," reliever Caleb Thielbar said. "It was pretty righteous, what [Baldelli] did. He was in the right, as far as I'm concerned."


Rocco Baldelli on play at plate

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August 7, 2022 | 00:00:55

Rocco Baldelli takes the floor to defend his team and his stance on the replay that decided the outcome of the Twins vs. Blue Jays game.


So he admits the rule has been enforced a "couple of times" since instant replay was introduced but he argues that because it's rarely enforced, it shouldn't have applied here?


The funniest part about Baldelli's rant on the rule supposedly being rarely enforced is that it was also enforced in the Pirates/Orioles game on the same day. The out call was reversed due to the catcher blocking the plate.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#363 » by And1Skip » Mon Aug 8, 2022 4:59 pm

If Sanchez's left leg was a little bit more to the left and allowed Merrifield's leg to get through and touch home plate, then that would be a legal tag though Merrifield would have been safe as he would have touched home plate before Sanchez was able to tag him. Instead, Sanzhez's left leg blocked the plate completely.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#364 » by linery88 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 5:12 pm

I thought we were gonna lose this game for sure.Merrifield-2 great tags !
Play of the game also initiated by Merrifield complaining.Heady player this guy is.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#365 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Aug 8, 2022 5:19 pm

anj wrote:People questioning the rule either have very short memories or didn't live through these:



Home-plate collisions were madness.

There are ways to limit collisions that don't involve applying this ridiculous rule (again, other fielders can block their bases on the catch but catchers can't? make it make sense). It's gone largely unapplied for the decade since its introduction and the collisions have dried up as it is.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#366 » by linery88 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 5:40 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
anj wrote:People questioning the rule either have very short memories or didn't live through these:



Home-plate collisions were madness.

There are ways to limit collisions that don't involve applying this ridiculous rule (again, other fielders can block their bases on the catch but catchers can't? make it make sense). It's gone largely unapplied for the decade since its introduction and the collisions have dried up as it is.

Only thing I can think of would be for the catcher to position them self to the right or left of home plate but without blocking it,but being in a good enough position to tag the runner out.In other words giving the runner the closest corner of home plate so he can possibly slide there,but the catcher would be able to tag him out providing the ball came there in time.
As long as he can do that,the catcher can never be accused of blocking the plate,and he gives himself a decent enough chance of tagging the guy out.
Its up to the players to deal with this rule effectively.
The catchers would have to keep this in mind,and remember to do this on close plays.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (58-46) @ Minnesota Twins (55-49) - August 4-7 

Post#367 » by Cyrus » Tue Aug 9, 2022 2:14 pm

Jomboy media thinks he was out based on the rulebook:

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