Redrafting 2021

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:55 am

SI
Pistons - Mobley
Rockets - Cunningham
Cavs - Barnes
Raptors - Kuminga
Magic - Giddey

NBC
Pistons - Cunningham
Rockets - Barnes
Cavs - Mobley
Raptors - Green
Magic - Giddey

CBS
Pistons - Cunningham
Rockets - Mobley
Cavs - Barnes
Raptors - Wagner
Magic - Green

The Athletic
Pistons - Cunningham
Rockets - Barnes
Cavs - Mobley
Raptors - Green
Magic - Wagner

A little surprised Cade generally held to number one and Mobley came in higher than Barnes on average.

God Squad · Post #2 » by **God Squad** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 2:49 am

Meh, it's the 4-15 range where I'd like to see who gets redrafted. But it obviously way too early for this.

cam24thomas · Post #3 » by **cam24thomas** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 3:45 am

Its one of the most interesting drafts in recent history. High ceilings.

Johnny Bball · Post #4 » by **Johnny Bball** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 3:50 am

Yeah why take the ROY and guy with the highest ceiling first, even with hindsight :roll:

JB2 · Post #5 » by **JB2** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 4:00 am

Mobley and Barnes gotta be #1 and 2, right?

whatisacenter · Post #6 » by **whatisacenter** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 4:10 am

too early.

Post #7 » by **kulaz3000** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 4:32 am

whatisacenter wrote:too early.

Yep, redrafting exercise a season after their rookie season is just stupid. Young players don't make their most significant leap (if they even do) until their third or fourth season, or some will just level off and most remain the player that they are, some are deep on the bench and need an opportunity on another team, and others will flame out.

Mr Peanut · Post #8 » by **Mr Peanut** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 10:32 am

JB2 wrote:Mobley and Barnes gotta be #1 and 2, right?

Depends who you talk to. I can't think of any Pistons fans who would take either of them over Cade. And I'm sure a parallel sentiment applies to the Cavs fans regarding Mobley and Raptors fans regarding Barnes.

Will be interesting to have this discussion again in 2-3 years.

Saints14 · Post #9 » by **Saints14** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 12:49 pm

Mobley
Barnes
Cade
Green
Wagner
Giddey

Audi · Post #10 » by **Audi** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 12:50 pm

Assuming the big reason for ORL not taking Suggs again in a redraft is due to his shooting, I'm not seeing why they'd then opt for Giddey.

God Squad · Post #11 » by **God Squad** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 12:53 pm

Laimbeer wrote:SI
Pistons - Mobley
Rockets - Cunningham
Cavs - Barnes
Raptors - Kuminga
Magic - Giddey

Also 'Zero' chance Kuminga makes it into the top 4. Like.. Nah.. I'm still taking Green and Wagner over him. Maybe even Giddey.

God Squad · Post #12 » by **God Squad** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 12:56 pm

Audi wrote:Assuming the big reason for ORL not taking Suggs again in a redraft is due to his shooting, I'm not seeing why they'd then opt for Giddey.

Orlando would be a hard team to figure out. Both Giddey and Suggs cant shoot a lick. But Suggs offers terrific defense, while Giddey offers elite play-making. So it's really about team construction at that point, but if I had to guess I'd say they'd take Giddey for the roster they have right now.

Post #13 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 12:58 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:
JB2 wrote:Mobley and Barnes gotta be #1 and 2, right?

Depends who you talk to. I can't think of any Pistons fans who would take either of them over Cade. And I'm sure a parallel sentiment applies to the Cavs fans regarding Mobley and Raptors fans regarding Barnes.

Will be interesting to have this discussion again in 2-3 years.

Yeah it's so hard. I've seen a lot of Mobley and Cade and they're both something special. But obviously I love Barnes because I watched him all year.

Godymas · Post #14 » by **Godymas** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:05 pm

anyone who is still not having Cade going #1 pretty much exposing themselves to never be taken seriously again

Post #15 » by **Michael Jackson** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:06 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Mr Peanut wrote:
JB2 wrote:Mobley and Barnes gotta be #1 and 2, right?

Depends who you talk to. I can't think of any Pistons fans who would take either of them over Cade. And I'm sure a parallel sentiment applies to the Cavs fans regarding Mobley and Raptors fans regarding Barnes.

Will be interesting to have this discussion again in 2-3 years.

Yeah it's so hard. I've seen a lot of Mobley and Cade and they're both something special. But obviously I love Barnes because I watched him all year.

I think there is still a lot of belief that Cade has the highest upside still. TBH I was never a big Cade fan (as in him being a no brainer #1) but I can see why people believe that. This draft more than most others really needs a few years though to tell how it will shake out. It won’t be like 2 years ago where Ant looks like a really smart pick, simply because that draft wasn’t loaded with all the talent last years was.

NYPiston · Post #16 » by **NYPiston** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:09 pm

JB2 wrote:Mobley and Barnes gotta be #1 and 2, right?

Wrong.

Re-drafts a year later are dumb. I'm sure that every team at the top especially are perfectly happy with their picks still.
The one big change I'd make in a re-draft, if anything, is Herb Jones going a lot higher.

Lockdown504090 · Post #17 » by **Lockdown504090** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:12 pm

I love this class. I was watching the peach jam high school tournament when these guys were in grade 10 and all the coaches there were talking about how nba teams should start tanking when these guys were eligble. amazing that nearly all of them panned out.

Dutchball97 · Post #18 » by **Dutchball97** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:17 pm

After one season it's almost as big of a crapshoot as before the draft. Especially in a year where the majority of top picks impressed.

Post #19 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:18 pm

Too early, but no way you don't put and Mobely and Barnes as #1 and #2 right now.

Ron Swanson · Post #20 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 1:33 pm

The Barnes and Mobley over Cade stuff is super weird to me considering that Cade is far and away the highest offensive ceiling guy and fits the most valuable player archetype in the league (big play-making and 3-tool scoring wing). Defense matters but not as much as a true franchise offensive anchor when it comes to individual player value. Mobley and Barnes have a higher floor, but their offense is far from a sure thing.