OT: 4 Cops Arrested in Breonna Taylor murder

[Capn'O]

It's a start.

Also, you always notice that people never use "both sides though" against Republicans, always to attack Dems and defend Republicans. Kind of gives away the game there.

That's a bingo. Now trade me Johnson.

[8516knicks]

Today's lesson for the MAGA crowd is - if u think u have a way through bulletproof glass with a nail gun, think again. You don't. Also, try not to hide in cornfield. That is all.

[Clyde_Style]

Today's lesson for the MAGA crowd is - if u think u have a way through bulletproof glass with a nail gun, think again. You don't. Also, try not to hide in cornfield. That is all.

Or hide stolen nuclear secrets in your house

[HarthorneWingo]

Today's lesson for the MAGA crowd is - if u think u have a way through bulletproof glass with a nail gun, think again. You don't. Also, try not to hide in cornfield. That is all.

Or hide stolen nuclear secrets in your house

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

[Clyde_Style]

Today's lesson for the MAGA crowd is - if u think u have a way through bulletproof glass with a nail gun, think again. You don't. Also, try not to hide in cornfield. That is all.

Or hide stolen nuclear secrets in your house

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

[HarthorneWingo]

Spinning people up to believe BS and ignore the real issues is also part of the play.

I'm plenty aware of what it going on.

I wasn't referring to YOUR eyes.

Anyone who buys into this two party BS is a part of the problem. I am so sick of hearing how much one side is better than the other. It simply is not true. Period. In order for a successful third party to emerge in the POTUS elections...they need to win on the lower levels. Until then it will be the two party nonsense we are stuck with. There needs to be a true centrist party/candidates for people to get behind. Not half assed, better than the other two options.

The media feeds the extremist views and the damage trickles down from there. Further dividing people who aren't really that far to either end of the spectrums. There is no centrist voice or party. That's going to continue unfortunately.

Follow the money. That's the basic solution to finding corruption. People keep following the "message" that politicians use to sway them to vote. It's a crock of shyt. They are crooked on both sides of the aisle. The money in politics is all about pay for play. Beholden to the large donor class and not the people.

I don't want a revolution in the sense of taking up arms but, the way things are going it may be necessary. It will never happen anyway so, whatever.[/quote
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I ammended it a bit:


Only 2 things have a chance at changing the way we do politics. Actually only ONE. I had thought one might be a real war like WW2 where winning made a slide toward divining the economic pie the most equitable in a LONG time til the early 70's. But Vietnam and the chief lesson learned by the powers that be - "f*ck the draft!" Now anyone in the military can't complain, they CHOSE it!

The second, and only remaining possibility is another DEPRESSION where EVERYONE was keyed into changing the economic structure. We got a TASTE of it with the pandemic SUPER UNEMPLOYMENT BONUS. When they want to keep the lid on civil unrest, they can pay up.

But now the essence of things boils down to Red State America thinking "I'm in line to get MINE (if Dems get their way) behind Women, Ethnic people including Immigrants (and illegal at that) and LQBTQ and especially now TRANSGENDERS and Blue States thinking "I'm in line to get mine (under the Republicans) behind the same old white superstructure and Old Boy networks. Each side figures WHAT CHANCE DO I HAVE and picks the side they think gives them the BEST CHANCE for their IDENTITY politics even if they aren't actively in that camp.

And we've gone from (what?) 7 tv channels and maybe the same radio outlets in the local market 1960's to where EVERYONE has a channel on TICK TOCK to Youtube and ALL want your EYEBALLS and the best way to get it is to FAN CONFLICT! And instead of just 7-11PM it's 24 HOURS ALL DAY.

I blame Wingo!

I will shoulder your burdens my brother.

Both sides do a lot of bad things and by "both sides", I'm referring to the establishment in each party. For example, many on both sides trade stocks based on insider information; many are whores for campaign contributions just to survive thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court case of Citizens United v. FEC authored by Chief Justice "Balls and Strikes". Yet, there are more and more progressive candidates that are holding on by only taking small dollar donations from individual while abstaining from any super PAC money.

There are some systemic changes I'd love to make changes to like the filibuster, the electoral college, and campaign finance that would begin to turn the ship back into the right direction.

[HarthorneWingo]

this is derailed, but i'm surprised by the civility. may it long continue. we're all better for it.

I heard someone say it was Clyde's fault. But I ain't no snitch.

[HarthorneWingo]

Or hide stolen nuclear secrets in your house

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Oh yeah, a lot worse. I was watching Anderson Cooper ask each guest, "But why would Trump do this?" And I'm thinking to myself, "He can't really not know, can he?" But the funniest thing was that each person he asked said, "I dunno"

[8516knicks]

Or hide stolen nuclear secrets in your house

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Ironic that in the last 70 year it's gone full circle. Trump's mentor Roy Cohn nailed the Rosenburgs for selling nuke secrets to the Russians and now Cohn's disciple Trump is going down for the same thing. What goes around really does seem to come around!

[thebuzzardman]

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Ironic that in the last 70 year it's gone full circle. Trump's mentor Roy Cohn nailed the Rosenburgs for selling nuke secrets to the Russians and now Cohn's disciple Trump is going down for the same thing. What goes around really does seem to come around!

[8516knicks]

Or hide stolen nuclear secrets in your house

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Best comment was one I saw on Twitter --
Kashana -- "What’s scary is that all of this could happen to any of us who stole nuclear documents.""

[nedleeds]

That's true for single issue voters and the two party system takes advantage of single issue voters to be sure, but a lot of people who aren't single issue voters (I'm not a single issue voter) see the two parties as very different.

Totally rational perspective. I see certain issues as sort of making other moot. E.g. if you are going to use the government to arbitraily steal my money without due process any minor issues around business freedom is moot. All our back and forth on business taxes is moot if you can arbitrarily shut my business down and prevent an entire group of people from soliciting me based on un scientific un needed authoritarian policies (recovered healthy covid patients not being able to enter a NY bagel shop without their papers).

I did a little reading up on this, and this is just bunk. Yes, Rand Paul did draft a bill, called the Justice for Breanna Taylor act" and yes, it died in congress, but it's a fair question that occasionally, a no knock warrant might be the thing to do - against an armed to the teeth terrorist group for example . . . knock knock . . . what could possibly go wrong there?

The Democrats are the ones supporting a police reform bill that the Republicans are almost certainly going to oppose, again, pointing to the differences between the parties.

read more here if you don't believe me:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s3955

You proved my point. They just took the no knock warrant and wouldn't pass it unless they added a bunch of other things that are divisive because of politics. The 2 parties agreed no knock warrants, especially related to drugs are both ineffective and disproportionate punish poor and minority Americans. Instead it got filled and bloated by horse trading for other stuff that the parties disagreed on and we got the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act of 2021, which died in congress. It added 20 other things, and got renamed to a more democrat platform. The same no knock is still in there, but god forbid a dirty white republican get credit! Same words. Both parties agreed and the public overwhelmingly agrees. They refused to pass it. And it goes both ways and happens countless times.

a LOT of democratic voters are fine with term limits. I'm less upset about this point than many, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if term limits was implemented.

I never said democratic voters weren't in favor of it. For the vast majority of my life I have been a democratic voter. I posted my history.

That's a bit much and you are sounding very much like a life long republican, maybe pretending to be a libertarian, when you write things like this.

A Clinton era democrat is a Republican now, so maybe in a sense you are right. I'm not pretending anything, I have positions on issues, that's pretty much it. Then I'll go (possibly) vote. I don't consider myself anything anymore which is true for a huge swath of Americans. Only 16% of the country thinks the government is doing a good job.

Very few to practically no democrats in Washington call the police corrupt or racist. Asking for gun legislation saves lives, it doesn't prevent self defense. The only gun law that (maybe) reduces crime - maybe, is carry laws, which a lot of individuals - myself included, are uncomfortable with. Guns in the home really don't deter crime.

You're covering so many complex subjects in your paragraph above, it's hard to address, but it certainly isn't damming testimony against democrats as you claim it to be. Bill Clinton did pass drug crime laws, which he's expressed strong regret over. The best weapon against drug violence is legalization . . . even the hard stuff. Tough call. These are not simple issues.

Gun legislation hasn't proven to save lives and there are infinite examples of the strictest gun laws producing the most violent areas, this is of course because it's other policies that are generating a culture of violence (drug laws leading to unjust mass incarceration, mass exodus of middle class mid skill jobs, etc.). Even more absurd is the rate at which DAs actually prosecute the laws already on the books. They're dismissed in droves. The left wants more laws but the (mostly democrat in cities) DAs dont prosecute the existing small dunk gun possession charges. They want gun laws as a platform to get elected, not to stop gun violence. Otherwise the focus would be on ending the war on drugs, which is the source of almost all gun violence in cities. Legal gun owners, especially when suicide (a mental health and social issue) is removed commit a statistically irrelevant amount of gun crime. Handguns are vastly more impactful in gun violence but aSsAulT rIfLE is scarier and gets more votes.

It's interesting that you would call them "unneeded vaccines". Do you really think democrats are pushing un-needed vaccines?

Asking a healthy 23 year old who had Covid to get an EUA mRNA vaccine with no accretive gain in IGG or IGA levels is literally the scientific definition of unneeded. The CDC finally conceded, but places like Canada still want to die on this hill. The vaccines were absolutely necessary, and were a scientific achievement, they are effective as proven by the semiquant ab tests used in the abbreviated trial. It was an authoritarian over reach to require them to enter a bagel store. It's my store. F-u-c-k you. In the end now, they've quietly shut up because it's not popular and we've got elections. The people calling to vaccinate otherwise healthy 6 year olds with no comorbidities are ghouls. 5 years from now, fine. Or 8 years of trial use as in the traditional vaccines. We'll actually have long term data on how they effect the human body.

You can get covid twice.

OK. With or without the vaccine you can get it multiple times. That's not even close to the threshold for government impelled medical treatment. Especially at the case fatality rate for an otherwise healthy person.

You get a vaccine to stop the spread of a virus that you mgiht catch or might be a carrier for.

Wow. I didn't think there was anyone left on this hill. You get a vaccine to produce an antibody response. The end. If your body has a good immune response it's indistinguishable form the vaccine because all the vaccine does is trick you body into thinking it had the virus. If this was your goal then the government should be monitoring immunity levels via antibody testing. Why didn't that happen? Follow the money. Nobody is getting an EUA vaccine who has higher median Igg an Iga levels than were shown in the clinical trials. It's literally risk for no gain. Antibodies aren't a gas tank, they aren't ablative. So if we had a real picture of how many had already recovered we wouldn't have been able to pay off our big pharma masters.

Trump's team DID pursue due process. They just got laughed out of court. Gore had a case. That's why the supreme court heard it.

Stacy Abrams didn't break any laws or insight any armed riots and unlike Trump, she probably wins a fair election.

Incite? Yes and he might go to jail or face charges. I hope he does.

Lol, so her election was unfair and wasn't proven in court but the orange turds baseless claims of an unfair election were unfounded and also weren't proven in court? More partisan nonsense. You're just biased.

They are both election deniers, you just like one, and one did it on a larger platform. We'll find out if Trump broke laws. Neither conceded and both have claimed multiple times that they won.

Watch on YouTube

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Trump encouraging anarchy and intimidation to pressure officials to change an election.
Democratics encouraging anarchy and violence in the streets to pressure people to vote Trump out.

What does this even mean? Please give an example.

There are massive amounts of examples of Trump pressuring officials. Just look at Georgia. He was intimidating every state official he could to change results, recount, find votes.

There are 1000 examples of democrat/left leaning rhetoric encouraging people to fight, fight, fight, fight, confront, in the streets, etc. And to their credit, it worked. American was tired of constant violence, rioting, 180 days of sieging federal buildings in portland, business being burned and looted. The democrats got a ton of votes from moderates who just didn't want their businesses and cities burned as a result of an orange turd victory.

It's fairly obvious that you sit in the camp of republican/conservative. You may as well come clean because it's all over your posts.

I don't and don't really care what you call me. I'm pro-abortion and medical freedom and right to die, pro-end the drug war, anti-regime change war, pro-free speech, pro-gay marriage, pro-2nd amendment, pro-sane federal budget, anti-FED, anti-DEA/ATF and the other countless duplicative agencies, pro-amnesty for minor drug offenders, pro-secure border and pro-fast path legal immigration.

You're also not actually making good arguments. There's no comparing Trump's STILL - nearly 2 years later, calling the election stolen and putting people who worked in the election in danger in the process while riling up his base - you can't compare that to Stacy Abrams or Al Gore. Not if you're honest.

I didn't compare him to Gore favorably, I pointed out actually that Gore did the right thing. He went to court.

Stacey Abrams hasn't shut her mouth about losing for years. She's crying unfair, just like Trump. It's a smaller platform obviously.

You keep bringing him up assuming I think he's a human being? Why? I don't think I've said anything good about him. As long as we're labeling I think you have Trump derangement syndrome.

[Clyde_Style]

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Best comment was one I saw on Twitter --
Kashana -- "What’s scary is that all of this could happen to any of us who stole nuclear documents.""

That sums up the dysfunctional part of the population that got sucked into the vortex when they aligned themselves with a gaslighting sociopath and pathological narcissist. They operate on the bleeding edge of psychological projections where accountability for crimes gets dissolved in an acid bath of victim hood.

America is incubating amoral monsters who cloak themselves in claims of being the arbiters of morality. You cannot reason with this type of mind and it is upwards to a quarter of the population. These are the people we sit down with for Thanksgiving dinner, but in their hearts they are now a different species of human. All it takes is for a second quarter of the population to go along with these people for fascism to win. We've already come very close.

They know they are right about everything and in justifying any means to their ends seek to be held accountable for nothing while anticipating the day when they can slaughter their enemies. The Nazification of America is quite advanced now. It doesn't mean they will take over, but if they do they will be cruel and inhumane to their foes.

Meanwhile, they bleat like spoiled children when held to any standard of justice. Victimhood in the hands of your future oppressors is a monkey wrench that must be turned back upon them. They must be brought to heel with the tools of justice at our disposal now.

This personality type is no longer solely Trump's domain. He uncaged that diseased portion of the body politic. He is their exemplar. Apres Trump, les deluge.

P.S. Any assertion that all sides are the same plays directly into the hands of these people. If you can't tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans at this point please stay home and don't vote. We don't need your help.

[Clyde_Style]

Their silence yesterday was deafening once Garland announced his Motion to Unseal the Warrant. Fact is, Trump could've just released the Warrant if he wanted to.

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Oh yeah, a lot worse. I was watching Anderson Cooper ask each guest, "But why would Trump do this?" And I'm thinking to myself, "He can't really not know, can he?" But the funniest thing was that each person he asked said, "I dunno"

Perhaps it is an honest answer to say one does not know since he operates outside the normal boundaries of reason.

But we live in an age of cowardice where people are cowed into silence by intimidation and the spectre of domestic terrorists hunting them down for speaking the truth about MAGA icons.

I don’t watch TV any longer so I’ll skip on the generalizations about the current state of televised MSM.

What I did witness is all of the larger TV networks have been watering down their coverage even since they discovered in 2015 the bottom line cash value of keeping Trump propped up as a credible politician.

Only the hosts on MSNBC seemed to buck that trend, but CNN fell deep into the both-sides talking head game and it ruined that network as a meaningful counterpoint to a propaganda network like Fox.

At this stage of the game, post January 6th, for anyone to say they don’t know why Trump would do anything venal is just cowardly. We all know Trump is capable of any crime including smothering his daughter to death with a pillow if he knew it would keep him out of prison.

Take any assumption about Trump and treble the worst outcome and you will usually land close to the actual crimes committed. The man is a lifelong criminal who was emboldened by holding the most powerful position on the planet. Not knowing why he’d steal classified information is just ducking bullets from his followers, but it sure is not truthful. Everyone honest knows Trump is a thief.

[8516knicks]

This is real bad now

Trump tried to end run Congress to sell the Saudis nuclear tech when prez

If he stole classified nuclear secrets he’s already being fitted for an orange jumpsuit

Oh yeah, a lot worse. I was watching Anderson Cooper ask each guest, "But why would Trump do this?" And I'm thinking to myself, "He can't really not know, can he?" But the funniest thing was that each person he asked said, "I dunno"

Perhaps it is an honest answer to say one does not know since he operates outside the normal boundaries of reason.

But we live in an age of cowardice where people are cowed into silence by intimidation and the spectre of domestic terrorists hunting them down for speaking the truth about MAGA icons.

I don’t watch TV any longer so I’ll skip on the generalizations about the current state of televised MSM.

What I did witness is all of the larger TV networks have been watering down their coverage even since they discovered in 2015 the bottom line cash value of keeping Trump propped up as a credible politician.

Only the hosts on MSNBC seemed to buck that trend, but CNN fell deep into the both-sides talking head game and it ruined that network as a meaningful counterpoint to a propaganda network like Fox.

At this stage of the game, post January 6th, for anyone to say they don’t know why Trump would do anything venal is just cowardly. We all know Trump is capable of any crime including smothering his daughter to death with a pillow if he knew it would keep him out of prison.

Take any assumption about Trump and treble the worst outcome and you will usually land close to the actual crimes committed. The man is a lifelong criminal who was emboldened by holding the most powerful position on the planet. Not knowing why he’d steal classified information is just ducking bullets from his followers, but it sure is not truthful. Everyone honest knows Trump is a thief.

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"What I did witness is all of the larger TV networks have been watering down their coverage even since they discovered in 2015 the bottom line cash value of keeping Trump propped up as a credible politician. "

I've been pondering this effect. He remains the single most reliable and strong EYEBALL attractor in the world.

And as our economic pie has greatly expanded in since the '70s only to see just about all of it raked off at the top, what seems to be left are distractions to lead away from the Bernie Sanders reality to a world where sports stars strike over $100M contracts and everyone has a "channel" and wants to be the KARDASHIANS (2nd to Trump in eyeballs, apparently). IT's the ROman bread and circuses (and lions) all over again.

The French saw this coming with THE AGE OF THE SPECTACLE. We see it in Marvel movies where people go for the CGI over story. The modern mythmaking machine probably started in my awareness was as a kid seeing the MEAN JOE GREEN commercial (he's probably a good guy, just the crafting of it was blatantly obvious an attempt at making a myth).

Now the network BUILD UPs to a game (those short ESPN or NBA or NFL 30 sec spots announcing an upcoming game) in its short powerful mini-commercials seems to overwhelm most games impact in reality. And by a LOT not a little. Those short spots are loaded with SENSATION.

Now conflict is driven to the max to attract eyeballs. The byproduct are fools like the recent mass murder shooters (including Rittenhouse).

I don't know what might cure it. A War, civil or nuclear? A Depression?

All I know is they'll have to pry my space laser from my cold dead hands!

[Clyde_Style]

Oh yeah, a lot worse. I was watching Anderson Cooper ask each guest, "But why would Trump do this?" And I'm thinking to myself, "He can't really not know, can he?" But the funniest thing was that each person he asked said, "I dunno"

Perhaps it is an honest answer to say one does not know since he operates outside the normal boundaries of reason.

But we live in an age of cowardice where people are cowed into silence by intimidation and the spectre of domestic terrorists hunting them down for speaking the truth about MAGA icons.

I don’t watch TV any longer so I’ll skip on the generalizations about the current state of televised MSM.

What I did witness is all of the larger TV networks have been watering down their coverage even since they discovered in 2015 the bottom line cash value of keeping Trump propped up as a credible politician.

Only the hosts on MSNBC seemed to buck that trend, but CNN fell deep into the both-sides talking head game and it ruined that network as a meaningful counterpoint to a propaganda network like Fox.

At this stage of the game, post January 6th, for anyone to say they don’t know why Trump would do anything venal is just cowardly. We all know Trump is capable of any crime including smothering his daughter to death with a pillow if he knew it would keep him out of prison.

Take any assumption about Trump and treble the worst outcome and you will usually land close to the actual crimes committed. The man is a lifelong criminal who was emboldened by holding the most powerful position on the planet. Not knowing why he’d steal classified information is just ducking bullets from his followers, but it sure is not truthful. Everyone honest knows Trump is a thief.

******************
"What I did witness is all of the larger TV networks have been watering down their coverage even since they discovered in 2015 the bottom line cash value of keeping Trump propped up as a credible politician. "

I've been pondering this effect. He remains the single most reliable and strong EYEBALL attractor in the world.

And as our economic pie has greatly expanded in since the '70s only to see just about all of it raked off at the top, what seems to be left are distractions to lead away from the Bernie Sanders reality to a world where sports stars strike over $100M contracts and everyone has a "channel" and wants to be the KARDASHIANS (2nd to Trump in eyeballs, apparently). IT's the ROman bread and circuses (and lions) all over again.

The French saw this coming with THE AGE OF THE SPECTACLE. We see it in Marvel movies where people go for the CGI over story. The modern mythmaking machine probably started in my awareness was as a kid seeing the MEAN JOE GREEN commercial (he's probably a good guy, just the crafting of it was blatantly obvious an attempt at making a myth).

Now the network BUILD UPs to a game (those short ESPN or NBA or NFL 30 sec spots announcing an upcoming game) in its short powerful mini-commercials seems to overwhelm most games impact in reality. And by a LOT not a little. Those short spots are loaded with SENSATION.

Now conflict is driven to the max to attract eyeballs. The byproduct are fools like the recent mass murder shooters (including Rittenhouse).

I don't know what might cure it. A War, civil or nuclear? A Depression?

All I know is they'll have to pry my space laser from my cold dead hands!

Not sure what you mean by curing spectacle. Calamity does not tend to drive people further away from escapism. Usually it is the opposite.

Cause and Effect needs to be deconstructed to address massive macro-economic inequities and global survival issues, but spectacle tends to numb the mind to cause and direct it to dwelling on effect. Effects disconnected from cause are phenomena, not intellectual input.

Getting lost in spectacle is not about discourse, but consumption patterns. This mostly generates reactivity, but not reflection. If we only consume, but cease to communicate meaningfully, then the spectacle will dictate.

The antidote to myopic self-interest is education. Scandinavian countries are good at instilling community as a value. I don't really expect that to transfer well to the American mind where tribalism is less about community than about bonding over common enemies. Those enemies are products of spectacle engineering. Fear is the base emotion manipulated to focus the spectacle driven herd to focus on the chosen target.

[Jeff Van Gully]

this is derailed, but i'm surprised by the civility. may it long continue. we're all better for it.

I heard someone say it was Clyde's fault. But I ain't no snitch.

Whatever works. Y’all are brilliant people and good things happen when we operate in good faith.

We get to like… learn from one another and grow and humanize and ****.

[thebuzzardman]

Interesting reading.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/29/jack-posobiec-central-spreading-russian-intelligence-led-macronleaks-hack

[Clyde_Style]

Interesting reading.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/29/jack-posobiec-central-spreading-russian-intelligence-led-macronleaks-hack

Chickens coming home to roost. Many of the same actors who engineered Brexit were Trump propagandists. The Russian infiltration of the GOP may finally be taken more seriously as Trump’s crimes get exposed. Manafort confessed last week that he personally shared campaign polling data with Killimnik in 2016, the very thing Trump denied profusely. One of the by-products of the espionage charges that seem to be in the works may be revelations about the money trail between Arab states/Russian banks and the GOP. It’s certainly extensive.

[8516knicks]

this is derailed, but i'm surprised by the civility. may it long continue. we're all better for it.

I heard someone say it was Clyde's fault. But I ain't no snitch.

Whatever works. Y’all are brilliant people and good things happen when we operate in good faith.

We get to like… learn from one another and grow and humanize and ****.

Do u mean I should return the AR-15 and body armor I just got?