Official Scottie Barnes Thread 3

HumbleRen · Post #1501 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:42 pm

OhCanada1091 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Bruin wrote:So basically Mobley has gotten the easiest shots of any rookie in years

Darius Garland makes it so easy for him.

Which is fine... Mobley was more glorified for his defensive presence this year anyway. Either way what he showed was spectacular and very deserving of the praise he received. He may not have been as good as Scottie but he was still one of the best rookies in NBA history and thats saying alot.

It's not a knock to him, Mobley would of easily been the ROTY on our team lol.

Mobley, Franz, Barnes, Cade are all in the same tier for me.

OhCanada1091 · Post #1502 » by **OhCanada1091** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:54 pm

DG88 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Its the other way around. Scottie saved the Raptors the 'f'' yall talkin bout.

OhCanada1091 · Post #1503 » by **OhCanada1091** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:56 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Darius Garland makes it so easy for him.

Which is fine... Mobley was more glorified for his defensive presence this year anyway. Either way what he showed was spectacular and very deserving of the praise he received. He may not have been as good as Scottie but he was still one of the best rookies in NBA history and thats saying alot.

It's not a knock to him, Mobley would of easily been the ROTY on our team lol.

Mobley, Franz, Barnes, Cade are all in the same tier for me.

I got Mobley, Barnes and Green in the same tier as far as longterm potential goes. Maybe Cade to but I just don't think he has that dog in him to work as hard as that first group.

HumbleRen · Post #1504 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:59 pm

OhCanada1091 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:Which is fine... Mobley was more glorified for his defensive presence this year anyway. Either way what he showed was spectacular and very deserving of the praise he received. He may not have been as good as Scottie but he was still one of the best rookies in NBA history and thats saying alot.

It's not a knock to him, Mobley would of easily been the ROTY on our team lol.

Mobley, Franz, Barnes, Cade are all in the same tier for me.

I got Mobley, Barnes and Green in the same tier as far as longterm potential goes. Maybe Cade to but I just don't think he has that dog in him to work as hard as that first group.

Interesting, I think he does. Cade probably breaks away from the other 3 imo and solidifies himself as the best player this upcoming year.

Post #1505 » by **Reeko** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:11 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
It's not a knock to him, Mobley would of easily been the ROTY on our team lol.

Mobley, Franz, Barnes, Cade are all in the same tier for me.

I got Mobley, Barnes and Green in the same tier as far as longterm potential goes. Maybe Cade to but I just don't think he has that dog in him to work as hard as that first group.

Interesting, I think he does. Cade probably breaks away from the other 3 imo and solidifies himself as the best player this upcoming year.

He’ll solidify himself as the best rapper. Really though, he might have the biggest breakout statistically but I still think Scottie will be more impactful.

Clutch0z24 · Post #1506 » by **Clutch0z24** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:42 pm

Cade/Barnes/Mobley/Green are the walmart version of Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Melo....I think Barnes becomes the best out of all cause he can impact the game in so many different ways.

gbball · Post #1507 » by **gbball** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:00 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Cade/Barnes/Mobley/Green are the walmart version of Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Melo....I think Barnes becomes the best out of all cause he can impact the game in so many different ways.

I think Mobley has a chance to be way better than Bosh. Cade a lesser Wade and Green similar to Carmelo. Health will be a factor for these guys...all have had minor injury issues that I don't remember that 2003 class having early on.

As far as Lebron/Barnes, yeah, I can't see Barnes putting up the same raw numbers as Lebron, but I can see him being a Jokic-like frontcourt playmaker...with a sprinkling of Lebron and Magic. The sky is the limit with him, but the path to sustained dominance isn't obvious.

720 · Post #1508 » by **720** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:04 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Cade/Barnes/Mobley/Green are the walmart version of Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Melo....I think Barnes becomes the best out of all cause he can impact the game in so many different ways.

I’m biased and feel the same way especially because of our organization and their ability to develop players.

But to me Cade is just a great prospect, in college he was expected to do so much, he had to carry that OSU team almost every night and he did. He played with such a mature pace, he would try get his team going and then in the second half he would step up. Felt like every week he made a clutch shot or clutch pass. Had we got Cade im telling you he’s a superstar. But in Detroit it is a bit more murky/hazy, he’ll get there but it’ll probably take him a couple years to figure out how to be more consistently efficient on offense.

Agimat · Post #1509 » by **Agimat** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:44 pm

720 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Cade/Barnes/Mobley/Green are the walmart version of Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Melo....I think Barnes becomes the best out of all cause he can impact the game in so many different ways.

I’m biased and feel the same way especially because of our organization and their ability to develop players.

But to me Cade is just a great prospect, in college he was expected to do so much, he had to carry that OSU team almost every night and he did. He played with such a mature pace, he would try get his team going and then in the second half he would step up. Felt like every week he made a clutch shot or clutch pass. Had we got Cade im telling you he’s a superstar. But in Detroit it is a bit more murky/hazy, he’ll get there but it’ll probably take him a couple years to figure out how to be more consistently efficient on offense.

Is Cade full-time pg to you?

720 · Post #1510 » by **720** » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:51 pm

Agimat wrote:
720 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Cade/Barnes/Mobley/Green are the walmart version of Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Melo....I think Barnes becomes the best out of all cause he can impact the game in so many different ways.

I’m biased and feel the same way especially because of our organization and their ability to develop players.

But to me Cade is just a great prospect, in college he was expected to do so much, he had to carry that OSU team almost every night and he did. He played with such a mature pace, he would try get his team going and then in the second half he would step up. Felt like every week he made a clutch shot or clutch pass. Had we got Cade im telling you he’s a superstar. But in Detroit it is a bit more murky/hazy, he’ll get there but it’ll probably take him a couple years to figure out how to be more consistently efficient on offense.

Is Cade full-time pg to you?

That’s the role I would put him in. He has great vision, can make timely passes, I think molding him into a playmaking guard with high scoring ability is ideal. He can be secondary ball handler in spurts when Ivey and Hayes run the ball (I think Kemba is getting moved some time this season) but I think they see him as a Luka type one day. I think that should be the ultimate goal.

binjumper · Post #1511 » by **binjumper** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:01 am

OhCanada1091 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Bruin wrote:So basically Mobley has gotten the easiest shots of any rookie in years

Darius Garland makes it so easy for him.

Which is fine... Mobley was more glorified for his defensive presence this year anyway. Either way what he showed was spectacular and very deserving of the praise he received. He may not have been as good as Scottie but he was still one of the best rookies in NBA history and thats saying alot.

Thing is he was getting credit for Jared Allen. Allen is the defensive anchor not Mobley and it showed when Allen went out.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1512 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:04 pm

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChPwiwnDwnh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Corner 3

LastNameEver · Post #1513 » by **LastNameEver** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:17 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChPwiwnDwnh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Corner 3

Much like Giannis, i don’t trust the consistency of that form during a live game but its ok for now

Post #1514 » by **Reeko** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:30 pm

LastNameEver wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChPwiwnDwnh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Corner 3

Much like Giannis, i don’t trust the consistency of that form during a live game but its ok for now

I just want to know why Scottie's base is so wide he shoots 3.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1515 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:31 pm

LastNameEver wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChPwiwnDwnh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Corner 3

Much like Giannis, i don’t trust the consistency of that form during a live game but its ok for now

Agree. Still looks like a push shot to me. The mechanics are not automatic yet. Some days they look good, others they dont.

Just needs more reps. It will come.

Vorticity · Post #1516 » by **Vorticity** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:41 pm

Reeko wrote:
LastNameEver wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChPwiwnDwnh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Corner 3

Much like Giannis, i don’t trust the consistency of that form during a live game but its ok for now

I just want to know why Scottie's base is so wide he shoots 3.

you noticed it too, eh?

if i remember correctly wasn't there discussion last year about how he uses his upper body when he shoots and started tranistioning to use his legs more? i'm guessing that's a transitional phase instruction to establish a good base to utilize his legs more.

HumbleRen · Post #1517 » by **HumbleRen** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:43 pm

that corner shot looks janky af lol, I'm telling you man .. the only time his jumpshot looks mechanically tight is when he's fading away from someone contesting his shot

TNRaps4life · Post #1518 » by **TNRaps4life** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:47 pm

HumbleRen wrote:that corner shot looks janky af lol, I'm telling you man .. the only time his jumpshot looks mechanically tight is when he's fading away from someone contesting his shot

Provided it goes in. Repetition is key. Shawn Marion and Reggie Miller made a lot of 3's with their form.

The boy is working. Give him credit. Negative fans
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PhilBlackson · Post #1519 » by **PhilBlackson** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:50 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Darius Garland makes it so easy for him.

Which is fine... Mobley was more glorified for his defensive presence this year anyway. Either way what he showed was spectacular and very deserving of the praise he received. He may not have been as good as Scottie but he was still one of the best rookies in NBA history and thats saying alot.

It's not a knock to him, Mobley would of easily been the ROTY on our team lol.

Mobley, Franz, Barnes, Cade are all in the same tier for me.

Franz?! Lol no…he’s not.

He’s more in Giddey, Kuminga (only guy who might move up imo) & Green’s tier. All-Star but not Top 10 potential like Scottie, Evan & Cade.

HumbleRen · Post #1520 » by **HumbleRen** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:01 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:Which is fine... Mobley was more glorified for his defensive presence this year anyway. Either way what he showed was spectacular and very deserving of the praise he received. He may not have been as good as Scottie but he was still one of the best rookies in NBA history and thats saying alot.

It's not a knock to him, Mobley would of easily been the ROTY on our team lol.

Mobley, Franz, Barnes, Cade are all in the same tier for me.

Franz?! Lol no…he’s not.

He’s more in Giddey, Kuminga (only guy who might move up imo) & Green’s tier. All-Star but not Top 10 potential like Scottie, Evan & Cade.

Franz is defintely there, he's going to be a walking 50/40/90 guy.