Baltimore Orioles (59-55) @ Toronto Blue Jays (61-52) - August 15-17

linery88 · Post #161 » by **linery88** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:02 am

We,ll still be a WC even if we lose tonight.
White then Stripling?

Hottie McShotty · Post #162 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:02 am

dont matter who pitches next if we can't hit and score more than 2 runs a game.

linery88 · Post #163 » by **linery88** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:03 am

Madvillainy2004 wrote:That may have been the most pathetic offensive performance I've ever seen tonight lmao

Do we need a new batting coach as well ?

Madvillainy2004 · Post #164 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:04 am

Worst part about this is I can't even enjoy thr Yankees unraveling lol

Madvillainy2004 · Post #165 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:07 am

Hottie McShotty wrote:dont matter who pitches next if we can't hit and score more than 2 runs a game.

The offense has been bad but let's not let the pitching off the hook here lmao

Last 5 losses before tonight was 7 runs allowed, 7 runs allowed, 8 runs allowed, 6 runs allowed, and 7 runs allowed. Not sure which offense can outscore that level of awful pitching.

dagger · Post #166 » by **dagger** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:10 am

Madvillainy2004 wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:dont matter who pitches next if we can't hit and score more than 2 runs a game.

The offense has been bad but let's not let the pitching off the hook here lmao

Last 5 losses before tonight was 7 runs allowed, 7 runs allowed, 8 runs allowed, 6 runs allowed, and 7 runs allowed. Not sure which offense can outscore that level of awful pitching.

They are not even coming close to outscoring an opponent. Losing 8-0 is not losing 8-6. The offence has been brutal. If the team is lucky, they score a run or two early before bagging it for the night. Comebacks? Ha1

Corinne · Post #167 » by **Corinne** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:11 am

linery88 wrote:We,ll still be a WC even if we lose tonight.
White then Stripling?

Strip tomorrow I think.

Asianiac_24 · Post #168 » by **Asianiac_24** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:11 am

Can we petition to have Schad be the next Blue Jays manager? We know he's knowledgable and understands the stats so the nerds can back off. How is his personality management?

Randle McMurphy · Post #169 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:20 am

Asianiac_24 wrote:Can we petition to have Schad be the next Blue Jays manager? We know he's knowledgable and understands the stats so the nerds can back off. How is his personality management?

Unless he's a puppet, they won't want anything to do with him.

Potential · Post #170 » by **Potential** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:21 am

Potential wrote:Orioles will finally stick a fork in them and put us out of our misery. The Blue Jays will be out of a playoff spot for good by Wednesday. Looking forward to what happens in the offseason

Tomorrow afternoon we are officially eliminated from playoff contention. Need to start the offseason thread from now

johanliebert · Post #171 » by **johanliebert** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:43 am

Charlie Montoyo is trending on Twitter right now. He took the fall for the analytics guys who map out games and the top of the lineup not delivering.

Lateral Quicks · Post #172 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:54 am

The good ship Blue Jay... thar she blows!

PowerPlant1 · Post #173 » by **PowerPlant1** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:08 am

The offense has been brutal with RISP lately. I can count two grounded into DPs including Chapman's in this game with the bases loaded up 2-0 stopped the momentum and another game not so long ago, there was a Hernandez strikeout followed by Bichette hitting into a DP.

Likely, because the pitching is so bad 2/5 times, it is forcing the offense to try to do too much.

Today, the Jays had a great lineup on paper. No Tapia, Jansen, Merrifield, Zimmer; along with Springer and Kirk in it and they still couldn't produce.

Overall, the offense is very good but when they struggle, they struggle when it counts.

Raps in 4 · Post #174 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:14 am

Can we clean house mid-season?

Raps in 4 · Post #175 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:40 am

linery88 wrote:
Madvillainy2004 wrote:That may have been the most pathetic offensive performance I've ever seen tonight lmao

Do we need a new batting coach as well ?

At this point, we need to clean house. Everyone has underperformed this season. Although the hitting as a whole has been solid, a number of individual players have underperformed. The pitching has been a disaster. Yeah, a lot of the blame falls on Shatkins for failing to shore up the rotation and bullpen, but Walker hasn't done anything to alleviate things (and Berrios has grossly underperformed his career average). And of course, Shatkins are in year 7 of their tenure with the team. You'd expect some kind of results by this point.

DelAbbot · Post #176 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:21 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Asianiac_24 wrote:Can we petition to have Schad be the next Blue Jays manager? We know he's knowledgable and understands the stats so the nerds can back off. How is his personality management?

Unless he's a puppet, they won't want anything to do with him.

Seriously. Atkins is a f'ing egomaniac. I remember towards the end of last year a fan 590 interview of Atkins about the success Pete Walker had working with Robbie Ray yielding a Cy Young season. Instead of praising his subordinate, he goes "it was not one individual, but a team of analysts working with Robbie (Ray)". F U Atkins

I hated Atkins from day 1, and now I'm back out of the closet to denounce that d-bag bean counter.

Kurtz · Post #177 » by **Kurtz** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:35 am

DelAbbot wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Asianiac_24 wrote:Can we petition to have Schad be the next Blue Jays manager? We know he's knowledgable and understands the stats so the nerds can back off. How is his personality management?

Unless he's a puppet, they won't want anything to do with him.

Seriously. Atkins is a f'ing egomaniac. I remember towards the end of last year a fan 590 interview of Atkins about the success Pete Walker had working with Robbie Ray yielding a Cy Young season. Instead of praising his subordinate, he goes "it was not one individual, but a team of analysts working with Robbie (Ray)". F U Atkins

I hated Atkins from day 1, and now I'm back out of the closet to denounce that d-bag bean counter.

The biggest tragedy in all of this was Shatkins running AA out of town. AA is building a dynasty in Atlanta right now while we appear to be circling the drain.

DelAbbot · Post #178 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:06 am

Kurtz wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Unless he's a puppet, they won't want anything to do with him.

Seriously. Atkins is a f'ing egomaniac. I remember towards the end of last year a fan 590 interview of Atkins about the success Pete Walker had working with Robbie Ray yielding a Cy Young season. Instead of praising his subordinate, he goes "it was not one individual, but a team of analysts working with Robbie (Ray)". F U Atkins

I hated Atkins from day 1, and now I'm back out of the closet to denounce that d-bag bean counter.

The biggest tragedy in all of this was Shatkins running AA out of town. AA is building a dynasty in Atlanta right now while we appear to be circling the drain.

Let's all remember our biggest star was signed by AA - Vladdy Jr, creatively trading prospect (Chase DeJong) for international pool money to secure a teenage Vladdy. Let Atkins handle it, he would have nickel and dime his way to a missed opportunity

I think I nearly cried over sports two times in my life - once was when Kawhi signed with LA and the other is when AA left

linery88 · Post #179 » by **linery88** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:08 am

johanliebert wrote:Charlie Montoyo is trending on Twitter right now. He took the fall for the analytics guys who map out games and the top of the lineup not delivering.

I cant **** believe this ****.
So it is now considred the wrong thing that a **** manager should decide where his batters bat,and in what order etc...you have got to be kidding me.
The manager who is in the dugout,and clubhouse,and in direct contact,and speaks to the players.He has to rely on anal...cs,and not his own brain.So i guess thats it then.We are relying on an outside force,system,or model that tries to predict the future like a **** psychic.Doesn,t sound like **** baseball to me.Should call the the Toronto Analytics BlueJays...simulating good results.
Data based on previous results does not automatically predict the future,and that the trend will automatically continue as it was previously.We cannot,and should not be totally reliant on it.Cant believe they do not already know this ****.

Raps in 4 · Post #180 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:09 am

DelAbbot wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Seriously. Atkins is a f'ing egomaniac. I remember towards the end of last year a fan 590 interview of Atkins about the success Pete Walker had working with Robbie Ray yielding a Cy Young season. Instead of praising his subordinate, he goes "it was not one individual, but a team of analysts working with Robbie (Ray)". F U Atkins

I hated Atkins from day 1, and now I'm back out of the closet to denounce that d-bag bean counter.

The biggest tragedy in all of this was Shatkins running AA out of town. AA is building a dynasty in Atlanta right now while we appear to be circling the drain.

Let's all remember our biggest star was signed by AA - Vladdy Jr

I think I nearly cried over sports two times in my life - once was when Kawhi signed with LA and the other is when AA left

We really did AA dirty. Instead of rewarding him for building a team that got to the ALCS, we hired his replacement and offered him a demotion. That's not how you run a respectable sports organization.

Rogers wanted to let Masai go last year too, after he brought us a title. They are not fit to own sports teams.