Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

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What did Harrington do besides collect a paycheck because he's cool with Kevin Durant?

serious question. I have no clue what he was even contributing to the team.

KD likes him. It's an inconsequential amount for a do nothing role that makes KD happy. Firing him really did make no sense as im sure everyone knew he was close to KD

If you heard Marks carefully in the press conference, he wants the OLD CULTURE of competing and PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, the old assistants they brought in did nothing to help players improve individually or apart of any system. KD wants to run the system his way, he wants to put the staff in place. Marks was irate because for three years he couldn't do the job according to his own standards.

[mademan]

What did Harrington do besides collect a paycheck because he's cool with Kevin Durant?

serious question. I have no clue what he was even contributing to the team.

KD likes him. It's an inconsequential amount for a do nothing role that makes KD happy. Firing him really did make no sense as im sure everyone knew he was close to KD

If you heard Marks carefully in the press conference, he wants the OLD CULTURE of competing and PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, the old assistants they brought in did nothing to help players improve individually or apart of any system. KD wants to run the system his way, he wants to put the staff in place. Marks was irate because for three years he couldn't do the job according to his own standards.

I get all that, but this is what happens when you go nuclear. Kawhi wanting Phil Handy, Raps gave him Phil Handy. It's inconsequential. I get wanting to take back overall control, but this is still a partnership, and you dont tell KD "F U, im in charge, get in line", cause nobody wins there. I understand overall roster decisions and bringing in the players Marks thinks will help the team win, but this was such a small thing to phuck with KD over.

This is Marks acting like a child. You bring in KD, you realize what business youre in and appreciate that he will get these certain privileges. If you dont agree, then ya, maybe you should trade him

[TheNetsFan]

Harrington was not fired. His contract was not renewed. I am not going to speculate on what may have happened, but Harrington was brought in before the clean sweep, likely as a way to lure KD. Something significant must have caused Tsai, Marks and Nash decide they can't keep him around any longer. Maybe Harrington wanted a crazy raise. Maybe some HR violation occurred. Who knows?

As far as KD trades goes, something to consider is that I believe that the YES contract is being renegotiated or due to be renegotiated soon. Having a good team with marketable stars under contract during those negotiations means a lot financially.

[gigantes]

I get all that, but this is what happens when you go nuclear. Kawhi wanting Phil Handy, Raps gave him Phil Handy. It's inconsequential. I get wanting to take back overall control, but this is still a partnership, and you dont tell KD "F U, im in charge, get in line", cause nobody wins there. I understand overall roster decisions and bringing in the players Marks thinks will help the team win, but this was such a small thing to phuck with KD over.

This is Marks acting like a child. You bring in KD, you realize what business youre in and appreciate that he will get these certain privileges. If you dont agree, then ya, maybe you should trade him

Don't forget that after last season's embarrassing finish, Marks stated very publicly that he wanted people committed to the Nets, implying that there were going to be some changes, and that he wanted the team to return to the professionalism and accountability that existed before KD&KI were signed.

Snake & Flake had every reasonable opportunity and every good reason to take that seriously, and understand that their 2-3 years of essentially running the show was done, and that the team would now be taking back some power... just like pretty much every other top org would do.

Instead of being appreciative of that incredible, rare indulgence towards them for 2-3 years, ask yourself who acted like a child here and who didn't? For context-- Kyrie evidently acted like a child since literally the day he got here, and that never changed. There's at least four major examples of that I noticed, and probably more I didn't.

Harrington was not fired. His contract was not renewed. I am not going to speculate on what may have happened, but Harrington was brought in before the clean sweep, likely as a way to lure KD. Something significant must have caused Tsai, Marks and Nash decide they can't keep him around any longer. Maybe Harrington wanted a crazy raise. Maybe some HR violation occurred. Who knows? ...

This is exactly how I would read it.
It's not like Marks prevented KD from contacting the dude or had him blacklisted from the league. It's not like he disrespected the guy publicly, or put a contract out on him.

Every year personnel leave teams, get let go, move to other teams or situations, do what's best for them. That's the way it is, KD.

To me, Durant may indeed have had 'multiple reasons' for asking out, but when it comes down to what they evidently are (poor finish, Kyrie not being maxed, Harrington not renewed), it still sounds like he's a lot more committed to needing everything exactly the way he wants, and a lot less about doing whatever it takes to win a title.

[mademan]

I get all that, but this is what happens when you go nuclear. Kawhi wanting Phil Handy, Raps gave him Phil Handy. It's inconsequential. I get wanting to take back overall control, but this is still a partnership, and you dont tell KD "F U, im in charge, get in line", cause nobody wins there. I understand overall roster decisions and bringing in the players Marks thinks will help the team win, but this was such a small thing to phuck with KD over.

This is Marks acting like a child. You bring in KD, you realize what business youre in and appreciate that he will get these certain privileges. If you dont agree, then ya, maybe you should trade him

Don't forget that after last season's embarrassing finish, Marks stated very publicly that he wanted people committed to the Nets, implying that there were going to be some changes, and that he wanted the team to return to the professionalism and accountability that existed before KD&KI were signed.

Snake & Flake had every reasonable opportunity and every good reason to take that seriously, and understand that their 2-3 years of essentially running the show was done, and that the team would now be taking back some power... just like pretty much every other top org would do.

Instead of being appreciative of that incredible, rare indulgence towards them for 2-3 years, ask yourself who acted like a child here and who didn't? For context-- Kyrie evidently acted like a child since literally the day he got here, and that never changed. There's at least four major examples of that I noticed, and probably more I didn't.

Harrington was not fired. His contract was not renewed. I am not going to speculate on what may have happened, but Harrington was brought in before the clean sweep, likely as a way to lure KD. Something significant must have caused Tsai, Marks and Nash decide they can't keep him around any longer. Maybe Harrington wanted a crazy raise. Maybe some HR violation occurred. Who knows? ...

This is exactly how I would read it.
It's not like Marks prevented KD from contacting the dude or had him blacklisted from the league. It's not like he disrespected the guy publicly, or put a contract out on him.

Every year personnel leave teams, get let go, move to other teams or situations, do what's best for them. That's the way it is, KD.

To me, Durant may indeed have had 'multiple reasons' for asking out, but when it comes down to what they evidently are (poor finish, Kyrie not being maxed, Harrington not renewed), it still sounds like he's a lot more committed to needing everything exactly the way he wants, and a lot less about doing whatever it takes to win a title.

I have zero issues with the Nets deciding to take back control. I just understand that if you tell KD one thing when he signs the contract (that he's the king and the wind will blow the way he wants it) and then 1 year later say "lol, jk, we're taking back control"....that chit doesnt usually go well. With most people in this world, you can whisper sweet nothings until they sign the dotter line and then tell them to "f off". Other people you cant, and we'll see how strongly KD feels about this in a month i guess

[MrDollarBills]

I get all that, but this is what happens when you go nuclear. Kawhi wanting Phil Handy, Raps gave him Phil Handy. It's inconsequential. I get wanting to take back overall control, but this is still a partnership, and you dont tell KD "F U, im in charge, get in line", cause nobody wins there. I understand overall roster decisions and bringing in the players Marks thinks will help the team win, but this was such a small thing to phuck with KD over.

This is Marks acting like a child. You bring in KD, you realize what business youre in and appreciate that he will get these certain privileges. If you dont agree, then ya, maybe you should trade him

Don't forget that after last season's embarrassing finish, Marks stated very publicly that he wanted people committed to the Nets, implying that there were going to be some changes, and that he wanted the team to return to the professionalism and accountability that existed before KD&KI were signed.

Snake & Flake had every reasonable opportunity and every good reason to take that seriously, and understand that their 2-3 years of essentially running the show was done, and that the team would now be taking back some power... just like pretty much every other top org would do.

Instead of being appreciative of that incredible, rare indulgence towards them for 2-3 years, ask yourself who acted like a child here and who didn't? For context-- Kyrie evidently acted like a child since literally the day he got here, and that never changed. There's at least four major examples of that I noticed, and probably more I didn't.

Harrington was not fired. His contract was not renewed. I am not going to speculate on what may have happened, but Harrington was brought in before the clean sweep, likely as a way to lure KD. Something significant must have caused Tsai, Marks and Nash decide they can't keep him around any longer. Maybe Harrington wanted a crazy raise. Maybe some HR violation occurred. Who knows? ...

This is exactly how I would read it.
It's not like Marks prevented KD from contacting the dude or had him blacklisted from the league. It's not like he disrespected the guy publicly, or put a contract out on him.

Every year personnel leave teams, get let go, move to other teams or situations, do what's best for them. That's the way it is, KD.

To me, Durant may indeed have had 'multiple reasons' for asking out, but when it comes down to what they evidently are (poor finish, Kyrie not being maxed, Harrington not renewed), it still sounds like he's a lot more committed to needing everything exactly the way he wants, and a lot less about doing whatever it takes to win a title.

I have zero issues with the Nets deciding to take back control. I just understand that if you tell KD one thing when he signs the contract (that he's the king and the wind will blow the way he wants it) and then 1 year later say "lol, jk, we're taking back control"....that chit doesnt usually go well. With most people in this world, you can whisper sweet nothings until they sign the dotter line and then tell them to "f off". Other people you cant, and we'll see how strongly KD feels about this in a month i guess

The Nets spent three years bending backwards for KD and have gotten nothing out of it but drama, missed time and one playoff victory against an injured Celtics team.

Your attempt to make KD some kind of innocent victim here is a joke.

[mademan]

Don't forget that after last season's embarrassing finish, Marks stated very publicly that he wanted people committed to the Nets, implying that there were going to be some changes, and that he wanted the team to return to the professionalism and accountability that existed before KD&KI were signed.

Snake & Flake had every reasonable opportunity and every good reason to take that seriously, and understand that their 2-3 years of essentially running the show was done, and that the team would now be taking back some power... just like pretty much every other top org would do.

Instead of being appreciative of that incredible, rare indulgence towards them for 2-3 years, ask yourself who acted like a child here and who didn't? For context-- Kyrie evidently acted like a child since literally the day he got here, and that never changed. There's at least four major examples of that I noticed, and probably more I didn't.


This is exactly how I would read it.
It's not like Marks prevented KD from contacting the dude or had him blacklisted from the league. It's not like he disrespected the guy publicly, or put a contract out on him.

Every year personnel leave teams, get let go, move to other teams or situations, do what's best for them. That's the way it is, KD.

To me, Durant may indeed have had 'multiple reasons' for asking out, but when it comes down to what they evidently are (poor finish, Kyrie not being maxed, Harrington not renewed), it still sounds like he's a lot more committed to needing everything exactly the way he wants, and a lot less about doing whatever it takes to win a title.

I have zero issues with the Nets deciding to take back control. I just understand that if you tell KD one thing when he signs the contract (that he's the king and the wind will blow the way he wants it) and then 1 year later say "lol, jk, we're taking back control"....that chit doesnt usually go well. With most people in this world, you can whisper sweet nothings until they sign the dotter line and then tell them to "f off". Other people you cant, and we'll see how strongly KD feels about this in a month i guess

The Nets spent three years bending backwards for KD and have gotten nothing out of it but drama, missed time and one playoff victory against an injured Celtics team.

Your attempt to make KD some kind of innocent victim here is a joke.

He aint a victim in the least. But if you wanna be the Lakers, understand the privileges you have to give these azzholes. It's part of the game

[wadenation305]

We're not trading Durant for bench players. Yall need to give it up

Def not bench players but you're also not going to get a needle moving superstar, alongside up and coming young talent with multiple picks. Both extremes are totally delusional.

I live in Miami. I get it. Miami wants Durant badly. But, Miami just doesn't have enough to make a deal for KD. Kyrie (maybe)....

You have to understand how our ownership and front office operates. If this were a one year expiring deal we would rush for a 70 cents on a dollar deal. But, the Nets currently have the best player in the NBA on a 4 year contract! The team owns his rights legally. He cannot expect to sit out and get paid. This is a monumental time in NBA history as the next CBA will have this exact situation with high penalties for a player. KD does not want to sit out. He might not sit out.

But, our ownership does not care if he does. They are doing this to make a point. I honestly do not even know if a team had a great deal for KD if they would accept it because he is THAT VALUABLE.

I think they come to terms shortly and maybe Nash gets replaced in a few weeks before training camp starts. If not, a team will wake up shortly after the season starts and bring in KD to win them or compete for a title. There are so many teams that could use KD. There aren't as many that need the role/lower level players currently being offered.

I honestly do not want him on my team at all lol. We do need the shooting don't get me wrong. But we already had a drama queen in Lebron. I know KD wouldn't come cheap, no delusions of grandeur there. Let's say one day Tsai wakes up has a brain fart and says f it sends him to the Heat even without including Bam. I still think he would cost too. With what we got right now we were literally 1 3pter away from being in the Finals for the second time in 3 years without a so called "Superstar". We just need our guys to be healthy when it matters and a little bit of a scoring punch. Our rumors were that we have a John Collins trade along with a secondary trade to bring in another high caliber wing. I'd prefer that a million times over gutting the team for a 35-year-old KD. It would cost us a heck of a lot less than what you guys are looking for, for one guy while providing our team better overall balance. If this was 25-year-old KD without drama I'd even be willing to give you guys our mascot in a trade. But the thing it he's not.

But like Riley hasn't moved on incase things change, now we might have to wait till the deadline to possibly to the other trade. That's why I want you guys to do something already. Regardless of whether you guys keep him to rot, play or trade him to someone else. Much like I suspect you guys do I just want this mess to be over with so we can get back to improving the team.

[MrDollarBills]

I have zero issues with the Nets deciding to take back control. I just understand that if you tell KD one thing when he signs the contract (that he's the king and the wind will blow the way he wants it) and then 1 year later say "lol, jk, we're taking back control"....that chit doesnt usually go well. With most people in this world, you can whisper sweet nothings until they sign the dotter line and then tell them to "f off". Other people you cant, and we'll see how strongly KD feels about this in a month i guess

The Nets spent three years bending backwards for KD and have gotten nothing out of it but drama, missed time and one playoff victory against an injured Celtics team.

Your attempt to make KD some kind of innocent victim here is a joke.

He aint a victim in the least. But if you wanna be the Lakers, understand the privileges you have to give these azzholes. It's part of the game

The Nets played the game and got burned by both Kyrie and KD. I don't blame them one bit for saying "hold up".

It has to work both ways. The Nets gave them a ton of power and KD/Kyrie have given the franchise and the fans absolutely nothing. Kyrie especially, who barely has shown up for work even when healthy.

KD has made it no secret that he doesn't give one iota of a f*ck about the fans, which makes this even worse. Cursing at Nets fans, trolling them online when most folks are begging him not to leave (not me). He's an ass hole to the core.

I would have traded him to Boston weeks ago tbh. He's not worth any of what he's putting the team through. He has played 90 games over 3 seasons and flat out quit versus the Celtics.

[NetsWorld]

The Nets spent three years bending backwards for KD and have gotten nothing out of it but drama, missed time and one playoff victory against an injured Celtics team.

Your attempt to make KD some kind of innocent victim here is a joke.

He aint a victim in the least. But if you wanna be the Lakers, understand the privileges you have to give these azzholes. It's part of the game

The Nets played the game and got burned by both Kyrie and KD. I don't blame them one bit for saying "hold up".

It has to work both ways. The Nets gave them a ton of power and KD/Kyrie have given the franchise and the fans absolutely nothing. Kyrie especially, who barely has shown up for work even when healthy.

KD has made it no secret that he doesn't give one iota of a f*ck about the fans, which makes this even worse. Cursing at Nets fans, trolling them online when most folks are begging him not to leave (not me). He's an ass hole to the core.

I would have traded him to Boston weeks ago tbh. He's not worth any of what he's putting the team through. He has played 90 games over 3 seasons and flat out quit versus the Celtics.

Well stated; KD/Kyrie have used the Nets to pretty much just play CASUAL basketball without a care in the world if they won or lost. KD has not shown a look of disappointment or dissatisfaction after losing. I knew from April's press conference prior to the post season when he said his injury derailed the season that he had checked out and didn't care. It was a major red flag then that no one spoke about. The Nets are smart though, they will get rid of KD eventually and it will be during/after the this season, especially if these two clowns cannot register a ring. Kyrie will be motivated for a new contract but will most likely get it somewhere else as his way of retaliation against the Nets for not "complying" with his stipulations. You know Marks is looking at Jaylen Brown by clearing cap for 2024 and you knew that a disgruntled star with two years left on their deal will become available. I can see Booker, Doncic, etc.... Becoming available in trade talks two years from now.

[vincecarter4pres]

Picks are attractive, but I'm not sure Tsai would bite. He still needs a star to sell Nets merchandise and attract season ticket holders.

Tsai is not REBUILDING, this is not the Nets of old; Nets will ONLY obtain picks in two instances, if there are superstar player caliber players in the draft(ala Simmons) or to trade for a superstar down the road. There is a reason the Nets want Booker, Brown, Tatum, etc..... in any trade for KD. Nets are your new Lakers, star chasers but Marks will attain the necessary assets to get them here. NJ Nets are no more.

Thank You.

Tired of reading the poverty franchise mindset around here. It’s cringeworthy.

Poverty franchise mindset? Foh with that, that's not what I'm suggesting, or even inferring.

They're looking for a star in return for 3 reasons.

1. Yes, this is a big market and the rest of the roster, especially if Kyrie is kept, can still easily be a contender, or at worst a dangerous-ish playoff team, that is one move away from true contention.

2. If they trade Kevin Durant, it's Kevin Freakin' Durant. If said team who is trading for him doesn't have a host of likely lotto picks to trade for him, they need a real deal blue chip, long term piece.

3. Houston owns our draft for 5 years. There is little to no desire to go through the post-Pierce/KG Trade Era again.


Look at all the real deal contenders around the league. I don't care if they're small market, or big, a majority have the same thing in common... they drafted their own superstar(s) and star. The small markets and poorly run big markets have trouble getting over the hump, because they have $hit show management, or are cheap.

There's nothing poverty franchise about building through the draft. And honestly, the most obvious plot is, Tsai and Marks want to both stay competitive now, while acquiring a number of future picks that have a good chance of landing you that true lead piece.

McCollum specifically is that type of player. He will provide stats and impact and help you to the playoffs, while providing leadership and perspective for his teammates. His game will age relatively well. Then the cache of picks and swaps, from New Orleans, Milwaukee and LAL would provide numerous lotto tickets.

Daniels and Jones have stud role player potential, Daniels has 2nd banana star potential actually and are under team control for over half a decade.

How many real deal #1 options are there in the league?

KD
Steph
Luka
Morant
Giannis
LeBron
Kawhi when healthy
Donovan Mitchell
Jokic


Harden and Lillard used to be.

Embiid, Butler and Tatum are fringe. PG too.

Maybe a healthy and improved Jamal Murray? Maybe.

If you don't land one of those guys, you better land a combination of 2 or 3 picture perfect fitting next tier, or above maybe guys, plus elite role player depth and have a great coach. Contend for some years and hopefully catch lightning in a bottle one of them.

If not, you have to find one of the next greats in the draft.

And so the point being, there's nothing poverty about trying to draft a dynasty, at least the top guy of that team and a role guy or two who go down as top role guys of their era.

[gigantes]

Well stated; KD/Kyrie have used the Nets to pretty much just play CASUAL basketball without a care in the world if they won or lost. KD has not shown a look of disappointment or dissatisfaction after losing. I knew from April's press conference prior to the post season when he said his injury derailed the season that he had checked out and didn't care. It was a major red flag then that no one spoke about.

The Nets are smart though, they will get rid of KD eventually and it will be during/after the this season, especially if these two clowns cannot register a ring. Kyrie will be motivated for a new contract but will most likely get it somewhere else as his way of retaliation against the Nets for not "complying" with his stipulations. You know Marks is looking at Jaylen Brown by clearing cap for 2024 and you knew that a disgruntled star with two years left on their deal will become available. I can see Booker, Doncic, etc.... Becoming available in trade talks two years from now.

KD saying to someone that he'd 'checked out and didn't care' prior to the postseason is something that came out fairly recently, right? But IIRC it was actually more like 'I'm feeling pessimistic.' Because obviously it's a nuclear-level comment if it came out at the time, which I don't believe it did.

TBF it's also understandable if he said it as an aside, because the Nets certainly weren't in optimal position to start the PO's. I can't beat the guy up for saying that in confidence, and I'm thinking whoever leaked it after the fact was sh-t stirring.

Btw, Doncic was already extended out to '26-27.
EDIT: Oops, you said "became disgruntled." Still, I have a hard time seeing that happen in only 2yrs under Cuban.

[3pt_chucker]

Well stated; KD/Kyrie have used the Nets to pretty much just play CASUAL basketball without a care in the world if they won or lost. KD has not shown a look of disappointment or dissatisfaction after losing. I knew from April's press conference prior to the post season when he said his injury derailed the season that he had checked out and didn't care. It was a major red flag then that no one spoke about.

The Nets are smart though, they will get rid of KD eventually and it will be during/after the this season, especially if these two clowns cannot register a ring. Kyrie will be motivated for a new contract but will most likely get it somewhere else as his way of retaliation against the Nets for not "complying" with his stipulations. You know Marks is looking at Jaylen Brown by clearing cap for 2024 and you knew that a disgruntled star with two years left on their deal will become available. I can see Booker, Doncic, etc.... Becoming available in trade talks two years from now.

KD saying to someone that he'd 'checked out and didn't care' prior to the postseason is something that came out fairly recently, right? But IIRC it was actually more like 'I'm feeling pessimistic.' Because obviously it's a nuclear-level comment if it came out at the time, which I don't believe it did.

TBF it's also understandable if he said it as an aside, because the Nets certainly weren't in optimal position to start the PO's. I can't beat the guy up for saying that in confidence, and I'm thinking whoever leaked it after the fact was sh-t stirring.

Btw, Doncic was already extended out to '26-27.

It was his friend Mike James that said it

[MrDollarBills]

Tsai is not REBUILDING, this is not the Nets of old; Nets will ONLY obtain picks in two instances, if there are superstar player caliber players in the draft(ala Simmons) or to trade for a superstar down the road. There is a reason the Nets want Booker, Brown, Tatum, etc..... in any trade for KD. Nets are your new Lakers, star chasers but Marks will attain the necessary assets to get them here. NJ Nets are no more.

Thank You.

Tired of reading the poverty franchise mindset around here. It’s cringeworthy.

Poverty franchise mindset? Foh with that, that's not what I'm suggesting, or even inferring.

They're looking for a star in return for 3 reasons.

1. Yes, this is a big market and the rest of the roster, especially if Kyrie is kept, can still easily be a contender, or at worst a dangerous-ish playoff team, that is one move away from true contention.

2. If they trade Kevin Durant, it's Kevin Freakin' Durant. If said team who is trading for him doesn't have a host of likely lotto picks to trade for him, they need a real deal blue chip, long term piece.

3. Houston owns our draft for 5 years. There is little to no desire to go through the post-Pierce/KG Trade Era again.


Look at all the real deal contenders around the league. I don't care if they're small market, or big, a majority have the same thing in common... they drafted their own superstar(s) and star. The small markets and poorly run big markets have trouble getting over the hump, because they have $hit show management, or are cheap.

There's nothing poverty franchise about building through the draft. And honestly, the most obvious plot is, Tsai and Marks want to both stay competitive now, while acquiring a number of future picks that have a good chance of landing you that true lead piece.

McCollum specifically is that type of player. He will provide stats and impact and help you to the playoffs, while providing leadership and perspective for his teammates. His game will age relatively well. Then the cache of picks and swaps, from New Orleans, Milwaukee and LAL would provide numerous lotto tickets.

Daniels and Jones have stud role player potential, Daniels has 2nd banana star potential actually and are under team control for over half a decade.

How many real deal #1 options are there in the league?

KD
Steph
Luka
Morant
Giannis
LeBron
Kawhi when healthy
Donovan Mitchell
Jokic


Harden and Lillard used to be.

Embiid, Butler and Tatum are fringe. PG too.

Maybe a healthy and improved Jamal Murray? Maybe.

If you don't land one of those guys, you better land a combination of 2 or 3 picture perfect fitting next tier, or above maybe guys, plus elite role player depth and have a great coach. Contend for some years and hopefully catch lightning in a bottle one of them.

If not, you have to find one of the next greats in the draft.

And so the point being, there's nothing poverty about trying to draft a dynasty, at least the top guy of that team and a role guy or two who go down as top role guys of their era.

I'm not sure how building home grown talent up like Golden State and Memphis is "poverty franchise" stuff.

We've tried twice now to build a contender by making big trades and burning tons of assets....and both times, it has blown up in our face because we hitch our wagons to bitch ass players like KD, Kyrie, and Deron. It's not working now, didn't work a few years ago. I'd rather build via the draft once we get pick control back.

Comparing us to the Lakers is a joke. The Lakers always hitch their wagons to the right guys. Shaq. Kobe. LeBron. True #1 superstars that put winning first.

Meanwhile, we just wasted a decade dealing with a fat f*ck who was so much of a bitch that Paul Pierce had to ask him if his pussy hurt, a flat earther who goes AWOL whenever he pleases, an out of shape socialite that flat out quit on us mid season, and a straight up COWARD.

None of them cared about winning. Not one.

[JoseRizal]

I probably wouldn't be mad if we sent KD to New Orleans for McCollum, Dyson Daniels, Herbert Jones and a ton of picks, tbh.

They have so many picks and swaps to send, we'd almost certainly hit high lotto on a couple eventually.

McCollum is a great fit with Simmons as long as Kyrie is dealt in a separate follow-up deal.

Daniels has a lot of potential himself, and Jones does too, to a lesser extent.

Would surely prefer Ingram though, obviously.

Picks are attractive, but I'm not sure Tsai would bite. He still needs a star to sell Nets merchandise and attract season ticket holders.

Tsai is not REBUILDING, this is not the Nets of old; Nets will ONLY obtain picks in two instances, if there are superstar player caliber players in the draft(ala Simmons) or to trade for a superstar down the road. There is a reason the Nets want Booker, Brown, Tatum, etc..... in any trade for KD. Nets are your new Lakers, star chasers but Marks will attain the necessary assets to get them here. NJ Nets are no more.

Who said we're rebuilding? I said Tsai would like to have a star to showcase, which would make good business sense. The mention of picks is what separates a hypothetical Jaylen Brown to a Brandon Ingram. While Brown is a better 2-way player, the Pelicans picks are more enticing than Boston's, hence, would make a potential Pelicans deal more attractive.

[JoseRizal]

Picks are attractive, but I'm not sure Tsai would bite. He still needs a star to sell Nets merchandise and attract season ticket holders.

Tsai is not REBUILDING, this is not the Nets of old; Nets will ONLY obtain picks in two instances, if there are superstar player caliber players in the draft(ala Simmons) or to trade for a superstar down the road. There is a reason the Nets want Booker, Brown, Tatum, etc..... in any trade for KD. Nets are your new Lakers, star chasers but Marks will attain the necessary assets to get them here. NJ Nets are no more.

Thank You.

Tired of reading the poverty franchise mindset around here. It’s cringeworthy.

Again, no one's suggesting a full rebuild here. Also, I don't think it's appropriate to call it a "poverty franchise mindset" as we went big time 3x but with pitiful results. From the DWill trade, to acquiring the corpse of KG & PP, to handing over the franchise to the 7-11 clowns. In hindsight, we would still do it, but up to what extent do we go that route?

Growing organically might still work, while we try to build around our remaining core with Ben10, young plater traded for KD, etc. I'm sure Marks is still willing to swing the fences, that's why we have a lot of short-term contracts now.

[gigantes]

This is exactly what I was suspecting with LeBron extending another year. Now the price of two #1's makes a lot more sense for them if they can get Kyrie for WB.

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What do the Nets get in the end though, and does it mean losing another player to make salaries match?

I see another problem in that those picks are such a long ways down the road that they're hard to predict. LA being LA, they could wind up signing some decent FA's, fielding average teams in '27 & '29, and now those picks are just average. Still better than losing Irving for nothing, but it would be nice if they could possibly be swapped with a 3rd team that has a surplus of upcoming picks. Maybe OKC?

Does that make sense?

[GTR11]

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Now I'm not understanding Marks here. Woj just said LA willing to give up 2 unprotected 1st rounders. I know we don't know insider stuff, Woj does though. How in the bleep Marks not pulling this trade right now. Kyrie is a damn cancer who started all this bs, thinking he won't sabotage this season is moronic. WTF is going on

NOP will play hardball, at the end of the day they right to protect their interests. JB and whatever on the table right now. Not the best option but at least it'll put some stability and excitement back.

Like some mentioned it's hard to get up and cheer for this team right now. This is not healthy at all. Pull the damn plug and call it a day. JB, Grant, Baynes and Bledsoe will put us right there into contention with bunch of assets we can play on. This FO starting to lose me and some other casual fans I talk to daily.

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Now I'm not understanding Marks here. Woj just said LA willing to give up 2 unprotected 1st rounders. I know we don't know insider stuff, Woj does though. How in the bleep Marks not pulling this trade right now. Kyrie is a damn cancer who started all this bs, thinking he won't sabotage this season is moronic. WTF is going on

NOP will play hardball, at the end of the day they right to protect their interests. JB and whatever on the table right now. Not the best option but at least it'll put some stability and excitement back.

Like some mentioned it's hard to get up and cheer for this team right now. This is not healthy at all. Pull the damn plug and call it a day. JB, Grant, Baynes and Bledsoe will put us right there into contention with bunch of assets we can play on. This FO starting to lose me and some other casual fans I talk to daily.

Kyrie is in a contract year: he wants a max extension; Nets are not trading him because they know he will perform well. If they up his value and they go no where, the asking price sky rockets, or they can just win it all and it bites the Lakers in the ass. KD/Kai have learned the hard way not to mess with Marks.

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Now I'm not understanding Marks here. Woj just said LA willing to give up 2 unprotected 1st rounders. I know we don't know insider stuff, Woj does though. How in the bleep Marks not pulling this trade right now. Kyrie is a damn cancer who started all this bs, thinking he won't sabotage this season is moronic. WTF is going on

NOP will play hardball, at the end of the day they right to protect their interests. JB and whatever on the table right now. Not the best option but at least it'll put some stability and excitement back.

Like some mentioned it's hard to get up and cheer for this team right now. This is not healthy at all. Pull the damn plug and call it a day. JB, Grant, Baynes and Bledsoe will put us right there into contention with bunch of assets we can play on. This FO starting to lose me and some other casual fans I talk to daily.

Kyrie is in a contract year: he wants a max extension; Nets are not trading him because they know he will perform well. If they up his value and they go no where, the asking price sky rockets, or they can just win it all and it bites the Lakers in the ass. KD/Kai have learned the hard way not to mess with Marks.

Wishful thinking. Should've learned by now, this is special type here. What you should expect is, Kyrie being Kyrie ( which he will ).