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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 3 

Post#1561 » by Joker » Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:05 pm

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brownbobcat wrote:We're obviously all infatuated with his potential right now and I do think he can get there ... BUT it's definitely not a lock. Scottie's scoring almost exclusively right now on feel, touch, effort and physicality. Hard to imagine he can consistently score 25+ on only those things. Skill-wise, he has much work to do - but it's the kind of development that's very very doable. He's not exactly a fluid athlete, but I love that he leans into that on the timing of some of his push shots, really throws defenders off.

Haha what’s interesting is that what you listed are the reasons why I think he will have elite scoring ability (mind you, I don’t think he’s gonna have elite scoring volume but he will be able to takeover stretches of games when needed). He is scoring off his intelligence and physicality right now—imagine when he adds skill behind that in a few years. He’s gonna be unstoppable.

There are a lot of guys in the NBA who can dribble and shoot. Most of them aren’t elite scorers. That’s because they either lack the feel and/or the athleticism. The guys who are elite have both feel and athleticism to go with skills. Scottie being the worker that he is has a high probability of ending up there imo.

Kawhi has shown one path to being an elite volume scorer without a million moves in your bag. The big difference is that he has an elite jumper - it's a tall order to get there, even with a lot of work.


And Kawhi can get to his spots, which is its own talent/skill.
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Post#1562 » by vulture » Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:14 pm

Joker wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Haha what’s interesting is that what you listed are the reasons why I think he will have elite scoring ability (mind you, I don’t think he’s gonna have elite scoring volume but he will be able to takeover stretches of games when needed). He is scoring off his intelligence and physicality right now—imagine when he adds skill behind that in a few years. He’s gonna be unstoppable.

There are a lot of guys in the NBA who can dribble and shoot. Most of them aren’t elite scorers. That’s because they either lack the feel and/or the athleticism. The guys who are elite have both feel and athleticism to go with skills. Scottie being the worker that he is has a high probability of ending up there imo.

Kawhi has shown one path to being an elite volume scorer without a million moves in your bag. The big difference is that he has an elite jumper - it's a tall order to get there, even with a lot of work.


And Kawhi can get to his spots, which is its own talent/skill.


Don't forget the handle and the strength too. He is super strong that any bump creates the space he needs.
I miss watching Kawhi play :(
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Post#1563 » by brownbobcat » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:28 pm

vulture wrote:
Joker wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:Kawhi has shown one path to being an elite volume scorer without a million moves in your bag. The big difference is that he has an elite jumper - it's a tall order to get there, even with a lot of work.


And Kawhi can get to his spots, which is its own talent/skill.


Don't forget the handle and the strength too. He is super strong that any bump creates the space he needs.
I miss watching Kawhi play :(

Absolutely, and he had such great balance and body control - it was like watching a power wing version of Tim Duncan. There isn't a single move in TImmy's repertoire that wows you, but he's able to execute them to perfection going left and right.
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Post#1564 » by Tripod » Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:04 am

Early last season, Scottie seemed to be able to score at will from the left corner of FT line. Then they seemed to go away from it to then "work" on other things like taking 3's from the right arc.

I would love to see them go back to that spot in games where we need a basket or to get him going in games.
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Post#1565 » by Brettfinch » Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:47 am

brownbobcat wrote:
vulture wrote:
Joker wrote:
And Kawhi can get to his spots, which is its own talent/skill.


Don't forget the handle and the strength too. He is super strong that any bump creates the space he needs.
I miss watching Kawhi play :(

Absolutely, and he had such great balance and body control - it was like watching a power wing version of Tim Duncan. There isn't a single move in TImmy's repertoire that wows you, but he's able to execute them to perfection going left and right.
One night, I was at a friend's place watching old Rose highlights then started watching others until we ran out. I said let's watch some Duncan highlight. Buddy goes "I'd rather not watch 20 mins of bank shots" I said no way put it on anyway. It was alot of bank shots from the left block...lots lol

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Post#1566 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:43 am

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Post#1567 » by Bruin » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:12 am

Capela, Keldon Johnson, and Cole Anthony there too
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Post#1568 » by Madhouse » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:40 pm

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Post#1569 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:48 pm

It’s so refreshing to see Scottie constantly participate in workouts with a variety of NBA players.

It speaks to his work ethic, but also to his personality. He is one of those guys who is going to have friends around the league.

This is him in year 1. Imagine year 4 or 5 - he’s the kind of guy that will be able to host NBA camps and recruit a whole bunch of people.

Imagine this: Carribana weekend - A 2 day tourney, sponsored by OVO, where different NBA/Canada basketball/NCAA players show out. It could be massive. Players might just come to watch and hang out! 8-)

As a bonus point, you could allow these players to workout in the OVO practice facility, so that they get a taste of raptors excellence, without any overt tampering!
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Post#1570 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:21 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:It’s so refreshing to see Scottie constantly participate in workouts with a variety of NBA players.

It speaks to his work ethic, but also to his personality. He is one of those guys who is going to have friends around the league.

This is him in year 1. Imagine year 4 or 5 - he’s the kind of guy that will be able to host NBA camps and recruit a whole bunch of people.

Imagine this: Carribana weekend - A 2 day tourney, sponsored by OVO, where different NBA/Canada basketball/NCAA players show out. It could be massive. Players might just come to watch and hang out! 8-)

As a bonus point, you could allow these players to workout in the OVO practice facility, so that they get a taste of raptors excellence, without any overt tampering!


Scottie is Demar in terms of work ethic and sociability, but with way more talent and a better body.
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Post#1571 » by dTox » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:57 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:It’s so refreshing to see Scottie constantly participate in workouts with a variety of NBA players.

It speaks to his work ethic, but also to his personality. He is one of those guys who is going to have friends around the league.

This is him in year 1. Imagine year 4 or 5 - he’s the kind of guy that will be able to host NBA camps and recruit a whole bunch of people.

Imagine this: Carribana weekend - A 2 day tourney, sponsored by OVO, where different NBA/Canada basketball/NCAA players show out. It could be massive. Players might just come to watch and hang out! 8-)

As a bonus point, you could allow these players to workout in the OVO practice facility, so that they get a taste of raptors excellence, without any overt tampering!


Scottie is Demar in terms of work ethic and sociability, but with way more talent and a better body.


he's more handsome too
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Post#1572 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:58 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:It’s so refreshing to see Scottie constantly participate in workouts with a variety of NBA players.

It speaks to his work ethic, but also to his personality. He is one of those guys who is going to have friends around the league.

This is him in year 1. Imagine year 4 or 5 - he’s the kind of guy that will be able to host NBA camps and recruit a whole bunch of people.

Imagine this: Carribana weekend - A 2 day tourney, sponsored by OVO, where different NBA/Canada basketball/NCAA players show out. It could be massive. Players might just come to watch and hang out! 8-)

As a bonus point, you could allow these players to workout in the OVO practice facility, so that they get a taste of raptors excellence, without any overt tampering!


Scottie is Demar in terms of work ethic and sociability, but with way more talent and a better body.



I agree.

Scottie has a bit more “alpha” than Demar though, you can already see it from the pre-draft process, where everyone from Cade to Suggs and Greene kind of talk about his “presence”.

He’s almost Magic Johnson like, in terms of charisma, playmaking and size. Magic is a top 10 all time player so some people might hate that, but that’s actually the single closest comparison. More so than Kahwai/ Giannis / Draymond.
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Post#1573 » by billy_hoyle » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:56 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:It’s so refreshing to see Scottie constantly participate in workouts with a variety of NBA players.

It speaks to his work ethic, but also to his personality. He is one of those guys who is going to have friends around the league.

This is him in year 1. Imagine year 4 or 5 - he’s the kind of guy that will be able to host NBA camps and recruit a whole bunch of people.

Imagine this: Carribana weekend - A 2 day tourney, sponsored by OVO, where different NBA/Canada basketball/NCAA players show out. It could be massive. Players might just come to watch and hang out! 8-)

As a bonus point, you could allow these players to workout in the OVO practice facility, so that they get a taste of raptors excellence, without any overt tampering!


Scottie is Demar in terms of work ethic and sociability, but with way more talent and a better body.



I agree.

Scottie has a bit more “alpha” than Demar though, you can already see it from the pre-draft process, where everyone from Cade to Suggs and Greene kind of talk about his “presence”.

He’s almost Magic Johnson like, in terms of charisma, playmaking and size. Magic is a top 10 all time player so some people might hate that, but that’s actually the single closest comparison. More so than Kahwai/ Giannis / Draymond.


LeBron is his closest comparison.
He's more of a bruiser than Magic.
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Post#1574 » by Madhouse » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:41 pm

First 20/8/5 season loading, he's got that dawg in him.
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Post#1575 » by brownbobcat » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:50 pm

Brettfinch wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:
vulture wrote:
Don't forget the handle and the strength too. He is super strong that any bump creates the space he needs.
I miss watching Kawhi play :(

Absolutely, and he had such great balance and body control - it was like watching a power wing version of Tim Duncan. There isn't a single move in TImmy's repertoire that wows you, but he's able to execute them to perfection going left and right.
One night, I was at a friend's place watching old Rose highlights then started watching others until we ran out. I said let's watch some Duncan highlight. Buddy goes "I'd rather not watch 20 mins of bank shots" I said no way put it on anyway. It was alot of bank shots from the left block...lots lol

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There's a lot that Scottie could take from Timmy's game in the high post - including the way he really utilized his length and palming ability. Add the economy of movement and subtle physicality and you have the definition of old man game.
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Post#1576 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:56 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Scottie is Demar in terms of work ethic and sociability, but with way more talent and a better body.



I agree.

Scottie has a bit more “alpha” than Demar though, you can already see it from the pre-draft process, where everyone from Cade to Suggs and Greene kind of talk about his “presence”.

He’s almost Magic Johnson like, in terms of charisma, playmaking and size. Magic is a top 10 all time player so some people might hate that, but that’s actually the single closest comparison. More so than Kahwai/ Giannis / Draymond.


LeBron is his closest comparison.
He's more of a bruiser than Magic.


he handles it like magic but has similar moves in the paint to of charles barkley
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