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[WuTang_CMB]

Precious is 6'9 long and athletic. He has a larger margin for error because his physicality will always make an impact even if he's missing shots or making poor decisions. Flynn doesnt have that luxury. And im tired of people blaming Nurse; it's been 2 seasons now that Flynn hasnt been able to shoot at even an average level. This is on Flynn; time to chit or get off the pot cause the Raps have other guards who Flynn doesnt really outclass (Banton, RHJ, Harris, Champagne)

Flynn never got a real shot last season, and definitely didn't get a leash like Precious did. That's just fact. Precious made his share of mistakes. Flynn didn't get that. There's nothing really to debate there, that's what happened.

Flynn just needs to hit open shots next season and keep it simple. He'll be in the rotation if he consistently does that. And look what happend when Flynn started those few games when FVV was injured, he was great.. unfortunately he got injured. Nurse just needs to work with him to give him a shot - it goes both ways. Precious got 25 min a night last season and had a rough first half. Flynn just needs 10-15 a night. It's his third year now, u gotta give him a chance. If he still cant hit open shots and play our style, then you move on from him but the kid needs a chance.

Flynn is a late 1st round pick and, at this point, a fringe NBA player. These guys dont get long leashes. What they are supposed to do is make the most out of any opportunity, and Flynn just hasnt. Like i said, Raps have multiple prospect guards that are also currently fringe NBA players. Flynn doesnt deserve a longer leash than any of them. This is a competitive sport; Flynn isnt gonna get a long look because of guys like Banton/RHJ/Harris/Champagne all wanting to take his minutes. Chit or get off the pot

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there. Also, Look up what masai said post year about him. “What about Malachi?” “We have to give these guys a chance”. He’ll get his shot next season

[BlackThought]

Flynn never got a real shot last season, and definitely didn't get a leash like Precious did. That's just fact. Precious made his share of mistakes. Flynn didn't get that. There's nothing really to debate there, that's what happened.

Flynn just needs to hit open shots next season and keep it simple. He'll be in the rotation if he consistently does that. And look what happend when Flynn started those few games when FVV was injured, he was great.. unfortunately he got injured. Nurse just needs to work with him to give him a shot - it goes both ways. Precious got 25 min a night last season and had a rough first half. Flynn just needs 10-15 a night. It's his third year now, u gotta give him a chance. If he still cant hit open shots and play our style, then you move on from him but the kid needs a chance.

Flynn is a late 1st round pick and, at this point, a fringe NBA player. These guys dont get long leashes. What they are supposed to do is make the most out of any opportunity, and Flynn just hasnt. Like i said, Raps have multiple prospect guards that are also currently fringe NBA players. Flynn doesnt deserve a longer leash than any of them. This is a competitive sport; Flynn isnt gonna get a long look because of guys like Banton/RHJ/Harris/Champagne all wanting to take his minutes. Chit or get off the pot

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there.

We've seen enough of Flynn already and his flaws are not that difficult to understand. He's basically FVV with worse outside shooting, worse inside finishing, and worse defense and that makes him a fringe NBA player. Almost everytime I see Flynn initiates offense he gets nowhere, and I mean nowhere. He can't beat anyone off the dribble and even if he did he can't finish inside. When he has the ball on offense all he does is waste shotclock. He's been a 33% career 3pt shooter albeit with limited attempts but that's not nearly enough as he not only need to hit open shots, he need to be able to hit logo shots like FVV.

This is what I see from Flynn next year. Nurse will give him one last shot and he needs to hit 3s at around 40%. If he does that he stays, if not he's playing in Europe or Asia after this season. I'm not sure if we picked up his option but chances are we won't. We could trade him but I don't think he has much value. So it's last chance for him next season. I have nothing against him and wish him the best but undersized unathletic guards that don't have a consistent outside shot will have a hard time making it in the league.

[mademan]

Flynn never got a real shot last season, and definitely didn't get a leash like Precious did. That's just fact. Precious made his share of mistakes. Flynn didn't get that. There's nothing really to debate there, that's what happened.

Flynn just needs to hit open shots next season and keep it simple. He'll be in the rotation if he consistently does that. And look what happend when Flynn started those few games when FVV was injured, he was great.. unfortunately he got injured. Nurse just needs to work with him to give him a shot - it goes both ways. Precious got 25 min a night last season and had a rough first half. Flynn just needs 10-15 a night. It's his third year now, u gotta give him a chance. If he still cant hit open shots and play our style, then you move on from him but the kid needs a chance.

Flynn is a late 1st round pick and, at this point, a fringe NBA player. These guys dont get long leashes. What they are supposed to do is make the most out of any opportunity, and Flynn just hasnt. Like i said, Raps have multiple prospect guards that are also currently fringe NBA players. Flynn doesnt deserve a longer leash than any of them. This is a competitive sport; Flynn isnt gonna get a long look because of guys like Banton/RHJ/Harris/Champagne all wanting to take his minutes. Chit or get off the pot

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there. Also, Look up what masai said post year about him. “What about Malachi?” “We have to give these guys a chance”. He’ll get his shot next season

He is getting a chance. He's not doing anything with the chance. What you actually mean is, why isnt he consistently getting minutes while also playing poorly. Which is a weird question to ask

[WuTang_CMB]

Flynn is a late 1st round pick and, at this point, a fringe NBA player. These guys dont get long leashes. What they are supposed to do is make the most out of any opportunity, and Flynn just hasnt. Like i said, Raps have multiple prospect guards that are also currently fringe NBA players. Flynn doesnt deserve a longer leash than any of them. This is a competitive sport; Flynn isnt gonna get a long look because of guys like Banton/RHJ/Harris/Champagne all wanting to take his minutes. Chit or get off the pot

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there. Also, Look up what masai said post year about him. “What about Malachi?” “We have to give these guys a chance”. He’ll get his shot next season

He is getting a chance. He's not doing anything with the chance. What you actually mean is, why isnt he consistently getting minutes while also playing poorly. Which is a weird question to ask

No he never got one last year. You dont play guys in garbage time to see what they are lol. Doesnt work that way. Svi got a shot last season and slowly played his way out of the rotation. Flynn never got that last season. That’s just fact. As masai said, he’ll get one next season then you can make a proper decision on the player.

[pingpongrac]

Flynn never got a real shot last season, and definitely didn't get a leash like Precious did. That's just fact. Precious made his share of mistakes. Flynn didn't get that. There's nothing really to debate there, that's what happened.

Flynn just needs to hit open shots next season and keep it simple. He'll be in the rotation if he consistently does that. And look what happend when Flynn started those few games when FVV was injured, he was great.. unfortunately he got injured. Nurse just needs to work with him to give him a shot - it goes both ways. Precious got 25 min a night last season and had a rough first half. Flynn just needs 10-15 a night. It's his third year now, u gotta give him a chance. If he still cant hit open shots and play our style, then you move on from him but the kid needs a chance.

Flynn is a late 1st round pick and, at this point, a fringe NBA player. These guys dont get long leashes. What they are supposed to do is make the most out of any opportunity, and Flynn just hasnt. Like i said, Raps have multiple prospect guards that are also currently fringe NBA players. Flynn doesnt deserve a longer leash than any of them. This is a competitive sport; Flynn isnt gonna get a long look because of guys like Banton/RHJ/Harris/Champagne all wanting to take his minutes. Chit or get off the pot

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there. Also, Look up what masai said post year about him. “What about Malachi?” “We have to give these guys a chance”. He’ll get his shot next season

Flynn did get a chance though. He played in 22 of the first 31 games and averaged 10 MPG in those appearances. While a bigger chunk of those 22 games were low-minute appearances and a few were strictly garbage minutes, he played 10+ minutes 9 times...and he averaged 6.2/2.2/1.8 on 44 TS% in 18 MPG while he was a combined -30. He did absolutely nothing with his minutes in the first half of the season, which is why he wasn't given another chance until FVV rested a couple times in January/February. He had a 4-game stretch post-ASB where he exceeded his previous season high of 14 (against Sacramento in December) then he was unfortunately sidelined with an injury until the final week of the season. Then he was terrible again at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

No more excuses. Flynn needs to show something regardless if he's playing 6-10 minutes or 10+ minutes.

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[WuTang_CMB]

Flynn is a late 1st round pick and, at this point, a fringe NBA player. These guys dont get long leashes. What they are supposed to do is make the most out of any opportunity, and Flynn just hasnt. Like i said, Raps have multiple prospect guards that are also currently fringe NBA players. Flynn doesnt deserve a longer leash than any of them. This is a competitive sport; Flynn isnt gonna get a long look because of guys like Banton/RHJ/Harris/Champagne all wanting to take his minutes. Chit or get off the pot

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there. Also, Look up what masai said post year about him. “What about Malachi?” “We have to give these guys a chance”. He’ll get his shot next season

Flynn did get a chance though. He played in 22 of the first 31 games and averaged 10 MPG in those appearances. While a bigger chunk of those 22 games were low-minute appearances and a few were strictly garbage minutes, he played 10+ minutes 9 times...and he averaged 6.2/2.2/1.8 on 44 TS% in 18 MPG while he was a combined -30. He did absolutely nothing with his minutes in the first half of the season, which is why he wasn't given another chance until FVV rested a couple times in January/February. He had a 4-game stretch post-ASB where he exceeded his previous season high of 14 (against Sacramento in December) then he was unfortunately sidelined with an injury until the final week of the season. Then he was terrible again at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

No more excuses. Flynn needs to show something regardless if he's playing 6-10 minutes or 10+ minutes.

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Thats not really a shot to me. Those werent meaningful rotation minutes but rather majority of garbage time minutes. Banton got a majority of those back up minutes early on. Svi on the other hand got a real shot in the rotation with consistent minutes. He played himself out of the rotation as the season went on. Flynn never got that and thats my point. You gotta make a decision on the player this coming season but the kid needs some consistent time to figure it out. Not garbage minutes. If he shows well and hit shots consistently theres something there. If he cant well then you move on. But you cant make a decision on a player based on his opportunity/minutes like last season.

[pingpongrac]

Ya you’re not really getting it. It comes down to getting a chance. He never got one last season thats my point. Late first round pick or not, we have given a chance to all players all over the board. Its his third year next season. You gotta give the guy a shot next season to make a decision. You either move on from him if he cant do it or we finally see something is there. Also, Look up what masai said post year about him. “What about Malachi?” “We have to give these guys a chance”. He’ll get his shot next season

Flynn did get a chance though. He played in 22 of the first 31 games and averaged 10 MPG in those appearances. While a bigger chunk of those 22 games were low-minute appearances and a few were strictly garbage minutes, he played 10+ minutes 9 times...and he averaged 6.2/2.2/1.8 on 44 TS% in 18 MPG while he was a combined -30. He did absolutely nothing with his minutes in the first half of the season, which is why he wasn't given another chance until FVV rested a couple times in January/February. He had a 4-game stretch post-ASB where he exceeded his previous season high of 14 (against Sacramento in December) then he was unfortunately sidelined with an injury until the final week of the season. Then he was terrible again at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

No more excuses. Flynn needs to show something regardless if he's playing 6-10 minutes or 10+ minutes.

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Thats not really a shot to me. Those werent meaningful rotation minutes but rather majority of garbage time minutes. Banton got a majority of those back up minutes early on. Svi on the other hand got a real shot in the rotation with consistent minutes. He played himself out of the rotation as the season went on. Flynn never got that and thats my point. You gotta make a decision on the player this coming season but the kid needs some consistent time to figure it out. Not garbage minutes. If he shows well and hit shots consistently theres something there. If he cant well then you move on. But you cant make a decision on a player based on his opportunity/minutes like last season.

I mean Banton played in 28 of the first 31 games and he averaged 13 MPG. That's really not a whole lot different than what Flynn was getting in the same span. He was also actually making an impact in his early-season minutes (5.0/2.2/1.5 on 58 TS% in 13 MPG while he was a combined -1 in his first 20 games) unlike Flynn...and that is why he was consistently getting those extra ~10 minutes per week.

[WuTang_CMB]

Flynn did get a chance though. He played in 22 of the first 31 games and averaged 10 MPG in those appearances. While a bigger chunk of those 22 games were low-minute appearances and a few were strictly garbage minutes, he played 10+ minutes 9 times...and he averaged 6.2/2.2/1.8 on 44 TS% in 18 MPG while he was a combined -30. He did absolutely nothing with his minutes in the first half of the season, which is why he wasn't given another chance until FVV rested a couple times in January/February. He had a 4-game stretch post-ASB where he exceeded his previous season high of 14 (against Sacramento in December) then he was unfortunately sidelined with an injury until the final week of the season. Then he was terrible again at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

No more excuses. Flynn needs to show something regardless if he's playing 6-10 minutes or 10+ minutes.

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Thats not really a shot to me. Those werent meaningful rotation minutes but rather majority of garbage time minutes. Banton got a majority of those back up minutes early on. Svi on the other hand got a real shot in the rotation with consistent minutes. He played himself out of the rotation as the season went on. Flynn never got that and thats my point. You gotta make a decision on the player this coming season but the kid needs some consistent time to figure it out. Not garbage minutes. If he shows well and hit shots consistently theres something there. If he cant well then you move on. But you cant make a decision on a player based on his opportunity/minutes like last season.

I mean Banton played in 28 of the first 31 games and he averaged 13 MPG. That's really not a whole lot different than what Flynn was getting in the same span. He was also actually making an impact in his early-season minutes (5.0/2.2/1.5 on 58 TS% in 13 MPG while he was a combined -1 in his first 20 games) unlike Flynn...and that is why he was consistently getting those extra ~10 minutes per week.

Flynn wasnt getting primary back up minutes early on. Nurse went with Banton. Flynn wasnt getting an opportunity in that role. You cant make a decision on a guy with majority of them being garbage minutes. Flynn will have to outplay Banton next season if he wants that role consistently and all he has to do is hit open 3’s but he needs a consistent look early on. Again, Svi got one and played himself out. I just want to see what Flynn is with consistent minutes. If he cant produce you move on but you gotta play that out this season to make a decision on him. Better for player and the team.

[pingpongrac]

Thats not really a shot to me. Those werent meaningful rotation minutes but rather majority of garbage time minutes. Banton got a majority of those back up minutes early on. Svi on the other hand got a real shot in the rotation with consistent minutes. He played himself out of the rotation as the season went on. Flynn never got that and thats my point. You gotta make a decision on the player this coming season but the kid needs some consistent time to figure it out. Not garbage minutes. If he shows well and hit shots consistently theres something there. If he cant well then you move on. But you cant make a decision on a player based on his opportunity/minutes like last season.

I mean Banton played in 28 of the first 31 games and he averaged 13 MPG. That's really not a whole lot different than what Flynn was getting in the same span. He was also actually making an impact in his early-season minutes (5.0/2.2/1.5 on 58 TS% in 13 MPG while he was a combined -1 in his first 20 games) unlike Flynn...and that is why he was consistently getting those extra ~10 minutes per week.

Flynn wasnt getting primary back up minutes early on. Nurse went with Banton. Flynn wasnt getting an opportunity in that role. You cant make a decision on a guy with majority of them being garbage minutes. Flynn will have to outplay Banton next season if he wants that role consistently and all he has to do is hit open 3’s but he needs a consistent look early on. Again, Svi got one and played himself out. I just want to see what Flynn is with consistent minutes. If he cant produce you move on but you gotta play that out this season to make a decision on him. Better for player and the team.

It's not better for the team if Flynn is playing rotation minutes and contributing absolutely nothing though. 6 points and 5 rebounds on 2/9 shooting in 22 minutes vs Utah, 2 points and 2 rebounds on 1/6 shooting in 14 minutes vs Indiana, 5 points + 2 rebounds + 1 assist on 2/8 shooting in 22 minutes vs Memphis, 6 points + 4 rebounds + 3 assists in 32 minutes vs Philly, etc. Even in some of the other earlier games when he played rotation minutes (like against the Knicks when he put up 3 points and 2 assists on 1/3 shooting in 11 minutes) he wasn't making much of an impact. He was basically good in blowouts against the Kings (14 points on 6/8 shooting) and Warriors (7 points and 2 assists on 3/5 shooting) and that's it...and that doesn't even begin to cover any of the games where Flynn was terrible in limited minutes in close losses (3 points on 1/4 shooting and -10 in 7 minutes of a 2-point loss to Brooklyn or 2 points on 1/1 shooting and -7 in 3 minutes of a 5-point loss to Portland).

Flynn had plenty of opportunity to do something with his minutes at the start of last season and he was a complete non-factor in most games. We were abysmal with Flynn on the floor in the first 2 months (-10 on and +3 off = -13 NetRTG on/off) and it was a large reason why we were a below .500 team. There was really no reason to give him more minutes at that point when Banton was clearly outperforming him on both ends, FVV was playing at an all-star level and we were also giving Scottie some reps at PG.

[WuTang_CMB]

I mean Banton played in 28 of the first 31 games and he averaged 13 MPG. That's really not a whole lot different than what Flynn was getting in the same span. He was also actually making an impact in his early-season minutes (5.0/2.2/1.5 on 58 TS% in 13 MPG while he was a combined -1 in his first 20 games) unlike Flynn...and that is why he was consistently getting those extra ~10 minutes per week.

Flynn wasnt getting primary back up minutes early on. Nurse went with Banton. Flynn wasnt getting an opportunity in that role. You cant make a decision on a guy with majority of them being garbage minutes. Flynn will have to outplay Banton next season if he wants that role consistently and all he has to do is hit open 3’s but he needs a consistent look early on. Again, Svi got one and played himself out. I just want to see what Flynn is with consistent minutes. If he cant produce you move on but you gotta play that out this season to make a decision on him. Better for player and the team.

It's not better for the team if Flynn is playing rotation minutes and contributing absolutely nothing though. 6 points and 5 rebounds on 2/9 shooting in 22 minutes vs Utah, 2 points and 2 rebounds on 1/6 shooting in 14 minutes vs Indiana, 5 points + 2 rebounds + 1 assist on 2/8 shooting in 22 minutes vs Memphis, 6 points + 4 rebounds + 3 assists in 32 minutes vs Philly, etc. Even in some of the other earlier games when he played rotation minutes (like against the Knicks when he put up 3 points and 2 assists on 1/3 shooting in 11 minutes) he wasn't making much of an impact. He was basically good in blowouts against the Kings (14 points on 6/8 shooting) and Warriors (7 points and 2 assists on 3/5 shooting) and that's it...and that doesn't even begin to cover any of the games where Flynn was terrible in limited minutes in close losses (3 points on 1/4 shooting and -10 in 7 minutes of a 2-point loss to Brooklyn or 2 points on 1/1 shooting and -7 in 3 minutes of a 5-point loss to Portland).

Flynn had plenty of opportunity to do something with his minutes at the start of last season and he was a complete non-factor in most games. We were abysmal with Flynn on the floor in the first 2 months (-10 on and +3 off = -13 NetRTG on/off) and it was a large reason why we were a below .500 team. There was really no reason to give him more minutes at that point when Banton was clearly outperforming him on both ends, FVV was playing at an all-star level and we were also giving Scottie some reps at PG.

Flynn wasnt the reason why we were a below .500 team Lol. The only players that were good were FVV and Scottie, OG lol nor did he get a opportunity last season where others did. Ie. Svi. Thats a real shot to me not bogus garbage time minutes and spot minutes here and there as a third stringer. Too difficult to make a decision on a player like that. It will be better for the team and player to move on from eachother once you know for sure what he is with a real shot. If he plays well you continue to play him. If he doesnt, you move on from him at the end of the year. By all accounts, he’ll get that shot next season.

[Clutch0z24]

Gotta understand NBA Players are not normal when it comes to basketball ....These guys are literally unhuman when playing in other leagues or against normal players or even high level g-league type guys ....Even the worst NBA players can play a pickup game and score 50 some points...

Not saying our guys do not look impressive cause they do but the level of competition for them in these pick up runs is like a joke to them....So the way Flynn looks here will be totally different than what he would look like in an actual NBA game...I do root for him but he has to show he can do it on the NBA Level first.

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gabe brown aka simon phoenix, continues to look good

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I know we're not asking Precious to be some iso creator or something but it's fun to see nonetheless. lol

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[deeps6x]

Quite frankly, there are 12 other players on the team that I'd like to see get ALL of the minutes ahead of Flynn. If he can show he is better than even one of the 12 in practice, then sure, give him some actual game minutes.

He seems like a great guy, so do him the favour of trading him to a team where he has a chance to develop. Utah would be great for him. Now that they are loaded with first round picks, maybe they'd be interested in trading for our former first round pick for a second round pick. Hell, it doesn't even have to be next year's 2nd. Make it their 2024 2nd round pick.

[Los_29]

Quite frankly, there are 12 other players on the team that I'd like to see get ALL of the minutes ahead of Flynn. If he can show he is better than even one of the 12 in practice, then sure, give him some actual game minutes.

He seems like a great guy, so do him the favour of trading him to a team where he has a chance to develop. Utah would be great for him. Now that they are loaded with first round picks, maybe they'd be interested in trading for our former first round pick for a second round pick. Hell, it doesn't even have to be next year's 2nd. Make it their 2024 2nd round pick.

I think what's made this organization successful is being patient. If they didn't think Flynn had anything to give he likely wouldn't be around. But I think they think there is something there and are willing to be patient.