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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#21 » by winforlose » Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:56 pm

Rich4114 wrote:There’s a wide array of possible outcomes right now it seems. Wonder what his lawyers are telling him. Will be interesting to see if something is worked out ahead of any trial too. What a **** show.


There are really two separate questions. The first is can he somehow avoid prison given the severity of his attack. Strangulation is a big deal, plus bruised ribs and a broken nose is serious as well. Also his wife is claiming a pattern of violence, which if corroborated will make the situation even more serious.

The second issue is how far the NBAPA sticks its neck out for him. Sponsors will not want Bridges in the NBA. Women will boycott their brands and accuse the NBA of being soft on violence against women. If the NBAPA holds firm and tries to protect Bridges they might pay dearly for it in the next CBA. If not, then Bridges could be in some deep trouble professionally.
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Post#22 » by SWedd523 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:14 pm

Fun fact: female engagement is lowest for the NBA among the major American sports. That is despite having a partner league dedicated to women.

While I guess the argument could be made that they'd tailor their efforts around placating the female demographic, I'd say (for right or wrong) it's more likely they wouldn't consider female viewership too heavily in their approach.
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Post#23 » by winforlose » Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:14 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Fun fact: female engagement is lowest for the NBA among the major American sports. That is despite having a partner league dedicated to women.

While I guess the argument could be made that they'd tailor their efforts around placating the female demographic, I'd say (for right or wrong) it's more likely they wouldn't consider female viewership too heavily in their approach.


Are only women outraged by men beating, chocking, abusing women? Especially in front of their kids? Also, is it a good look for a sponsor to be supporting a team with an abuser while more and more details about the abuse comes out in the press. This is the same problem the NFL has with Watson, only his behavior was against professionals while Bridges was against his wife and in front of his kids. I don’t know how this plays out, but I think it goes deeper than will women be upset.
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Post#24 » by SWedd523 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:12 pm

Has NFL viewership, sponsorship, TV deals suffered after Vick? Pacman Jones? Stallworth? Ray Rice? Greg Hardy? Josh Brent? Antonio Brown? Josh Brown? Ezekiel Elliott? Roethlisberger? Winston? Watson?

What about the NBA after Kobe? Jeff Taylor? Miles Bridges? Malice at the Palace?

EDIT: And you were the one who brought up women as a specific demographic first, not me. No need to move the goalposts.
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#25 » by winforlose » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:44 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Has NFL viewership, sponsorship, TV deals suffered after Vick? Pacman Jones? Stallworth? Ray Rice? Greg Hardy? Josh Brent? Antonio Brown? Josh Brown? Ezekiel Elliott? Roethlisberger? Winston? Watson?

What about the NBA after Kobe? Jeff Taylor? Miles Bridges? Malice at the Palace?

EDIT: And you were the one who brought up women as a specific demographic first, not me. No need to move the goalposts.


Fair point on the women comment. I didn’t mean it as exclusive to women, but I see your point.

I think It is a question of timing. I think Watson, Bridges, and whoever comes next will be excellent test cases. I think the era of cancel culture is real, and I think that the me too era is real. I think the NFL pushing for a longer Watson suspension is a sign of that. But at the end of the day it comes down to risk tolerance. Any team that negotiates with publicly or signs Bridges is testing the water. Maybe the water is fine, maybe it is not. But chocking your wife out in front of your children and having her show a list of injuries including a burst ear drum, concussion, broken nose, bruised ribs, swelling on her arms and legs, ect… is a pretty serious situation and adds risk to testing that water.
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Post#26 » by SWedd523 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:16 pm

We don't disagree on anything there
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#27 » by CuseMayne » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:53 pm

Just so god damn brutal how in limbo Miles has put us in, in an absolutely critical time window for our decision making for both the short term and long term. When this is all "resolved", if he doesn't come out and SINCERELY apologize to his family, the organization, his teammates, the city, and the fans, I'll be sick to my stomach.
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Post#28 » by CuseMayne » Wed Sep 7, 2022 12:11 pm

Preliminary hearing today...really hoping we get a semblance of clarity on the situation...
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Post#29 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Sep 7, 2022 3:15 pm

CuseMayne wrote:Preliminary hearing today...really hoping we get a semblance of clarity on the situation...


Glad you're on top of it since our beat writer goes weeks without tweeint then tweets last night something about voting when he should be all over this case.
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Post#31 » by Rich4114 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 3:48 pm

It’s almost certainly going to trial right? And then the question is, is there a chance for him and his wife to work something out that gets her what she really wants. Unless if what she really wants is him in jail and sucked dry of millions which she will also not have. Its still so unclear.
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Post#33 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Sep 7, 2022 10:39 pm

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Post#34 » by CuseMayne » Wed Sep 7, 2022 10:54 pm

So god damn annoying.
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Post#35 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Sep 7, 2022 11:19 pm

The news of a continuation of the hearing could indicate all parties are negotiating an out-of-court settlement. Miles can't earn money for his children if he's sentenced to jail. Custody and visitation privileges are factors in play other than income and financial compensation/protections.

All sides might just need more time to negotiate so they extended their hearing instead of moving to trial.

If there are no charges or if the charges are reduced then the NBA penalty might be minimal in terms of suspension.

Then the player contract becomes the focus. Will the Hornets and Miles want a longterm agreement or will Miles play on the QO and bet on himself in free agency as an unrestricted free agent?
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#36 » by Diop » Wed Sep 7, 2022 11:20 pm

This is probably his last chance to avoid a trial. If he does make an agreement with Mychelle that causes her to become reluctant to give evidence, makes it not in the states interests to proceed, what does charlotte do then? We’re all justifiably outraged, but him not being able to continue to earn more money ends up punishing the victims somewhat.

If he is your classic domestic violent offender, he will never admit fault, make her go the distance thinking he can still control her. Never accepting he’s at fault.

So many tough unanswered questions.
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#37 » by yosemiteben » Thu Sep 8, 2022 12:29 am

MasterIchiro wrote:The news of a continuation of the hearing could indicate all parties are negotiating an out-of-court settlement. Miles can't earn money for his children if he's sentenced to jail. Custody and visitation privileges are factors in play other than income and financial compensation/protections.

Not for criminal prosecution. Custody and visitation are irrelevant, as are income and financial matters. Those are dealt with as part of civil matters that are independent of the charges he is facing.

MasterIchiro wrote:If there are no charges or if the charges are reduced then the NBA penalty might be minimal in terms of suspension.

Believe that ship has sailed, he's already been charged and the prosecutor is pursuing the case.
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#38 » by Diop » Thu Sep 8, 2022 1:17 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:The news of a continuation of the hearing could indicate all parties are negotiating an out-of-court settlement. Miles can't earn money for his children if he's sentenced to jail. Custody and visitation privileges are factors in play other than income and financial compensation/protections.

Not for criminal prosecution. Custody and visitation are irrelevant, as are income and financial matters. Those are dealt with as part of civil matters that are independent of the charges he is facing.

MasterIchiro wrote:If there are no charges or if the charges are reduced then the NBA penalty might be minimal in terms of suspension.

Believe that ship has sailed, he's already been charged and the prosecutor is pursuing the case.

nah this is the time for prosecution to call his witnesses and present his evidence, like I said the witnesses can still make it tough for prosecution, this is his last chance. especially if it results in a circumstance which is the best result for future support for the victim. the state will consider whats best for the victim as well.
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#39 » by yosemiteben » Thu Sep 8, 2022 1:25 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:The news of a continuation of the hearing could indicate all parties are negotiating an out-of-court settlement. Miles can't earn money for his children if he's sentenced to jail. Custody and visitation privileges are factors in play other than income and financial compensation/protections.

Not for criminal prosecution. Custody and visitation are irrelevant, as are income and financial matters. Those are dealt with as part of civil matters that are independent of the charges he is facing.

MasterIchiro wrote:If there are no charges or if the charges are reduced then the NBA penalty might be minimal in terms of suspension.

Believe that ship has sailed, he's already been charged and the prosecutor is pursuing the case.

nah this is the time for prosecution to call his witnesses and present his evidence, like I said the witnesses can still make it tough for prosecution, this is his last chance. especially if it results in a circumstance which is the best result for future support for the victim. the state will consider whats best for the victim as well.

Visitation and custody is the domain of a divorce proceeding. Same with alimony and child support. They're not even going to come up in a criminal case, they aren't relevant to the case.
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Re: Felony Charges: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#40 » by Diop » Thu Sep 8, 2022 2:57 am

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yosemiteben wrote:Not for criminal prosecution. Custody and visitation are irrelevant, as are income and financial matters. Those are dealt with as part of civil matters that are independent of the charges he is facing.


Believe that ship has sailed, he's already been charged and the prosecutor is pursuing the case.

nah this is the time for prosecution to call his witnesses and present his evidence, like I said the witnesses can still make it tough for prosecution, this is his last chance. especially if it results in a circumstance which is the best result for future support for the victim. the state will consider whats best for the victim as well.

Visitation and custody is the domain of a divorce proceeding. Same with alimony and child support. They're not even going to come up in a criminal case, they aren't relevant to the case.

There are, however, situations in which the prosecution may agree to drop or hold off on filing charges, such as diversion or pretrial interventions. And despite the general prohibition against settling criminal charges for monetary consideration, in many states, defendants can resolve certain charges through financial settlement with the victim.


Like I said, if through negotiation the state finds its going to be better for everyone to not proceed, they won't. A drawn out trial costs a lot of money and generally causes extra stress to the victims. this is what lawyers get paid for, manipulating the system to get the best outcome for their client. its why the rich are harder to jail than the poor.
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