Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

[Nuntius]

Lithuanians also have very stupid word for basketball, Lithuanians in general try to ''lithuanize'' everything, a lot of people push back against it, we had so many stupid words for items and things that just either have international term or just accepted English term. In general, Lithuanian language, unlike Italian or English has very complex declension system, you really need to at least add lithuanian endings to basically every word, otherwise it would just not make sense. So, in Lithuania, LeBron James becomes LeBronas Jamesas etc. and that LeBronas Jamesas would have another 10 alternatives depending on the declension used.

Yeah... Greek, German, Slavic languages have declension too, probably many more languages around the world. My name is Spyros but when you talk to me it's Spyro, when you say something belongs to me it's Spyrou, and so on. Try to explain that to an Australian LOL

Well, Lithuanians have something like ~7 declensions, this has to be a record among european languanges

@UCAN As esu is graiku. ne kalbu ir ne suprantu lietuviskai I spent a semester in your country, I took some courses, 5 years later I only remember the nouns for foodstuff

Uralic languages like Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian have more grammatical cases. That said, the Uralic languages do not belong to the Indo-European family so you're technically correct

[Beorn]

It doesn't really matter in the context of this thread to be honest, but I find the whole discussion fascinating

Satoransky seems to be out, Czechia is in trouble :|

Interesting fact: Greece is very likely to face either France or Slovenia in the quarterfinals, so at least 1 of the 3 teams will not be in the semis...

[Nuntius]

Interesting fact: Greece is very likely to face either France or Slovenia in the quarterfinals, so at least 1 of the 3 teams will not be in the semis...

Good point. The team that finishes in the second place of Group B will face the winner of Group C in the Quarterfinals (assuming, of course, that both teams win in the Round of 16). If Greece wins Group C and France/Slovenia lock up the first two spots of Group B then, yeah, that will happen.

[GeorgeSears]

This is how Euro region looks now. Top 3 teams from each group advances

Goup I. big take away is Serbia, they are in a pretty bad shape, been struggling with their window rosters, they need to take advantage of current Eurobasket squad, if they lose games now, it seems like World cup without Serbia is very likely outcome.

This is a good thing for the Nuggets. Probably not good for Serbia. I don't want to see Jokic worn down heading into a season with massive expectations.

I watched Slovenia vs. Serbia game and it was embarrassing to watch. None of those players on Serbia have any chance of making the NBA. In OT they missed like 4 wide open 3s. They couldn't get the ball into Jokic. It was Denver without Murray and MPJ all over again, but with worse talent.

So why have Jokic burn himself out for a tournament that doesn't matter. Everyone would prefer he saves his energy for the NBA season. After all, he does have a Silver medal. That's more than most can brag about.

Pretty much none of the players participating in the tournament have a shot at making the NBA, apart from the ones that are already NBA players. But, yea, with Bogdanovic out due to injury Serbia doesn't have many quality players to support Jokic.

Plus, I think you're mixing up the tournaments. If Serbia loses the game this week, it means Jokic won't play next summer at the world cup. He's still going to play this summer at the Eurobasket, barring injury.

Yes, I'd rather for Jokic not to play in any international tournaments that may jeopardize the Nuggets' season.

If he has to play in Eurobasket this summer, then so be it. I'd rather he doesn't have to play again in WC next summer.

[Pachinko_]

Yes, I'd rather for Jokic not to play in any international tournaments that may jeopardize the Nuggets' season.

If he has to play in Eurobasket this summer, then so be it. I'd rather he doesn't have to play again in WC next summer.

You have to rely on the player to determine that for himself, if he feels he needs the rest he should take it, if he wants to play you should let him play. Some guys do wear down from playing basketball in the summer, others simply stay in shape. Pau for example played countless back to back summers with Spain with long NBA seasons and titles in between and never had a problem. Jokic with a lot of rest in the summer is at risk of turning into a giant burek.

[GeorgeSears]

Yes, I'd rather for Jokic not to play in any international tournaments that may jeopardize the Nuggets' season.

If he has to play in Eurobasket this summer, then so be it. I'd rather he doesn't have to play again in WC next summer.

You have to rely on the player to determine that for himself, if he feels he needs the rest he should take it, if he wants to play you should let him play. Some guys do wear down from playing basketball in the summer, others simply stay in shape. Pau for example played countless back to back summers with Spain with long NBA seasons and titles in between and never had a problem. Jokic with a lot of rest in the summer is at risk of turning into a giant burek.

On the contrary, the last time Jokic came into an NBA season grossly out of shape was in 2019, when he played for Serbia in the world cup. He had to work his way back into shape and didn't shed the weight until right before the pandemic hit.

There's this notion that if players play during the summer that they'll enter the NBA season in shape. But that's not what happens. Those that end up playing in the summer end up so burnt out that they over compensate by taking uncharacteristically bad breaks ie. they eat lot, rest a lot, don't exercise and end up gaining 20-30 lbs. We saw what happened with Luka last year after he played for Slovenia in the Olympics.

It's much better for players to just work on cardio, SnC, and shooting than it is to play in basketball tournaments.

[lambchop]

Yes, I'd rather for Jokic not to play in any international tournaments that may jeopardize the Nuggets' season.

If he has to play in Eurobasket this summer, then so be it. I'd rather he doesn't have to play again in WC next summer.

You have to rely on the player to determine that for himself, if he feels he needs the rest he should take it, if he wants to play you should let him play. Some guys do wear down from playing basketball in the summer, others simply stay in shape. Pau for example played countless back to back summers with Spain with long NBA seasons and titles in between and never had a problem. Jokic with a lot of rest in the summer is at risk of turning into a giant burek.

On the contrary, the last time Jokic came into an NBA season grossly out of shape was in 2019, when he played for Serbia in the world cup. He had to work his way back into shape and didn't shed the weight until right before the pandemic hit.

There's this notion that if players play during the summer that they'll enter the NBA season in shape. But that's not what happens. Those that end up playing in the summer end up so burnt out that they over compensate by taking uncharacteristically bad breaks ie. they eat lot, rest a lot, don't exercise and end up gaining 20-30 lbs. We saw what happened with Luka last year after he played for Slovenia in the Olympics.

It's much better for players to just work on cardio, SnC, and shooting than it is to play in basketball tournaments.

I'm all for playing in the summer, but I absolutely agree with this notion. American players seem to handle playing in the summer well without falling out of shape, maybe cause they're used to playing pretty much all summer long anyway and since even the skilled ones might rely on physical capabilities more, like a quick first step, compared to European dudes where being out of shape doesn't make too much of a difference. But these guys like Luka, Jokic etc. tend to go on extensive cevapcici eating tours where the goal is to put on as much weight as possible.

I think working out 5-6 days a week with 1-2 rest days is just more sustainable for some guys in terms on consistency.

Jokic spent last summer on his horse chariot and seemed ready to play.

[Nuntius]

Yes, I'd rather for Jokic not to play in any international tournaments that may jeopardize the Nuggets' season.

If he has to play in Eurobasket this summer, then so be it. I'd rather he doesn't have to play again in WC next summer.

You have to rely on the player to determine that for himself, if he feels he needs the rest he should take it, if he wants to play you should let him play. Some guys do wear down from playing basketball in the summer, others simply stay in shape. Pau for example played countless back to back summers with Spain with long NBA seasons and titles in between and never had a problem. Jokic with a lot of rest in the summer is at risk of turning into a giant burek.

On the contrary, the last time Jokic came into an NBA season grossly out of shape was in 2019, when he played for Serbia in the world cup. He had to work his way back into shape and didn't shed the weight until right before the pandemic hit.

At the end of the day, this is a decision that the players have to make for themselves. We cannot tell them what to do. It's their choice whether they want to play or not.

[Pachinko_]

Yes, I'd rather for Jokic not to play in any international tournaments that may jeopardize the Nuggets' season.

If he has to play in Eurobasket this summer, then so be it. I'd rather he doesn't have to play again in WC next summer.

You have to rely on the player to determine that for himself, if he feels he needs the rest he should take it, if he wants to play you should let him play. Some guys do wear down from playing basketball in the summer, others simply stay in shape. Pau for example played countless back to back summers with Spain with long NBA seasons and titles in between and never had a problem. Jokic with a lot of rest in the summer is at risk of turning into a giant burek.

On the contrary, the last time Jokic came into an NBA season grossly out of shape was in 2019, when he played for Serbia in the world cup. He had to work his way back into shape and didn't shed the weight until right before the pandemic hit.

There's this notion that if players play during the summer that they'll enter the NBA season in shape. But that's not what happens. Those that end up playing in the summer end up so burnt out that they over compensate by taking uncharacteristically bad breaks ie. they eat lot, rest a lot, don't exercise and end up gaining 20-30 lbs. We saw what happened with Luka last year after he played for Slovenia in the Olympics.

It's much better for players to just work on cardio, SnC, and shooting than it is to play in basketball tournaments.

Like I said: it depends on the player. Jokic and Doncic are not the only two NBA players who played basketball in the summer, there are countless others who did it with no problem. The player has to decide for himself.

[Swuul]

Results from the European groups World Cup qualifier matches yesterday:


FRA - CZE was a very entertaining match. The Czechs started very strong, and for a while it even looked like an upset was cooking. But France eventually woke up, and in the second half France was unstoppable. After a bit of a rough start Gobert had a good game for France, with 14 points, 7 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Highlights of the match:

Watch on YouTube

[lambchop]

Was watching the Montenegro - Bosnia game cause I enjoy seeing Musa play. It was kind of tough seeing Nurkic on defense. He's essentially like one of those old 40 something year olds, always standing on his heels and just randomly swiping his arms around like "yea, all of you suck and I can take the ball away from you at will." But he just looked awful.

Watch on YouTube

[Pachinko_]

Anyone got a link for the Serbia-Greece game? It's on some pay channel in Greece.

[Swuul]

Anyone got a link for the Serbia-Greece game? It's on some pay channel in Greece.

The official streaming service of FIBA matches for international viewers:
https://www.courtside1891.basketball/
Price for the Serbia-Greece game seems to be 7.99 (both in Euros and US Dollars, as far as I can tell).

[Saberestar]

Games for today? Any link with the info? Thanks.

[sisibilio]

Sergio Llull also out for Spain. I think this definitely opens the spot for Nuñez.

[Swuul]

Games for today? Any link with the info? Thanks.

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/european-qualifiers/games

[CharityStripe34]

Anyone got a link for the Serbia-Greece game? It's on some pay channel in Greece.

ERT Flix not showing the game? Blasphemy.

[Bodiroga13]

You can watch Serbia- Greece here
(On the screen there is this message:Zωντανα σε 3 ωρες. Ιt means : It will be broadcasting in 3 hours)

Watch on YouTube

[Bodiroga13]

You can watch Serbia- Greece here
(On the screen there is this message:Zωντανα σε 3 ωρες. Ιt means : It will be broadcasting in 3 hours)

Watch on YouTube

I 've just been told that there is a chance that only Greek IP's can watch the game in this Youtube link. If so, i apologize to every non-Greek here.

[Jellybeans]

KP torching Turkey in 1QT
12+3+3+3 in like 8 minutes