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Post#101 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:48 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think Morris would at least give us some toughness.

I wouldn't mind adding him and Dwight for some size.

Thompson, no thanks. Same with Melo.

Leadership does remain the biggest obstacle for this team. Where do we get it?

KD openly says he won't do it.

Kyrie tries and fails.

Simmons of course can't do it.

Maybe we need someone like Mills to do it? Idk.


Leadership is a bigger issue than Center.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong but the Nets don't need a traditional big. Stretch 5? Sure but good luck finding one for cheap at this point.

Also it's really hard having your main leader not be one of your 5 best players. Team needs one of KD, KAI, Ben to step up but as you say, none of those 3 have desired leadership qualities. *Sigh*

The worst part of the Harden trade is that he was the leader of the team and when things were good, he was actually really good at it. Too bad he quit as soon as things got hard and KD backed Kyrie over him.



I was going to say this...its really hard when none of your best players are leaders, and your best player basically has one foot out the door.
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Post#102 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:49 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think Morris would at least give us some toughness.

I wouldn't mind adding him and Dwight for some size.

Thompson, no thanks. Same with Melo.

Leadership does remain the biggest obstacle for this team. Where do we get it?

KD openly says he won't do it.

Kyrie tries and fails.

Simmons of course can't do it.

Maybe we need someone like Mills to do it? Idk.


We need Blake, he was good in limited spurts. Experimenting will hunt us back, we should've brought Dragic back too.


Blake is washed and I don't think he'd be happy with a bench role.

Dragic wants to play real mins and he would not get that on this current roster.



Dragic wants nothing to do with us after last year. It's a miracle that Mills even resigned.

The problems from last year won't magically disappear because Tsai and Marks made peace with the two clowns who take up most of our cap.
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Post#103 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:18 pm

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Foh **** I ain't say nothing with ur insecure ass. I gave an opinion get the **** over it.



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Post#104 » by JoseRizal » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:16 am

Our team still have holes, below are 3 spots we need to fill.

1. Back-up C
2. Facilitator PG
3. Another wing 3&D
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Post#105 » by KL78192020 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:49 am

JoseRizal wrote:Our team still have holes, below are 3 spots we need to fill.

1. Back-up C
2. Facilitator PG
3. Another wing 3&D


What does facilitator PG mean. Ben is a PG and Kyrie/Durant can also create for others.
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Post#106 » by JoseRizal » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:52 am

KL78192020 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Our team still have holes, below are 3 spots we need to fill.

1. Back-up C
2. Facilitator PG
3. Another wing 3&D


What does facilitator PG mean. Ben is a PG and Kyrie/Durant can also create for others.


We've seen how the loss of Harden impacted us. We're left with KD & Kyrie iso ball all the time. Having a facilitator would lessen the predictability in our offense, and dependency with KD to play 40 plus minutes a night. Shooters will get more chances, pnr with Clax, etc.

As currently constructed, only Ben is capable of doing it for us. But having another, would not hurt.
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Post#107 » by OfficialRef » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:36 pm

JoseRizal wrote:Our team still have holes, below are 3 spots we need to fill.

1. Back-up C
2. Facilitator PG
3. Another wing 3&D

i agree, preferably a PG or wing that is tall and long too considering the team seems undersized aside from Durant, Ben, Claxton
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Post#108 » by NetsWorld » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:33 pm

With the news now that Jazz really want to trade Mitchell and that we are one of his preferred destinations, is to much to think that perhaps.......JUST PERHAPS...... there is a loophole around his contract and Simmon's contact and they end up playing together? You never know; stranger things have happened. Also, bear in mind, the leaks of him as one of his "preferred" destinations came from a leak, either his camp or the Jazz camp which means there could be talks going on. Ainge has been very generous, with the exception of Gobert with his trades. He WOULD take on a Joe Harris/Pick type of deal for Mitchell. Hey, NOTHING is impossible anymore in this league..... There has to be a loophole allowing him to play with Simmons.
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Post#109 » by Paradise » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:06 pm

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KL78192020 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Our team still have holes, below are 3 spots we need to fill.

1. Back-up C
2. Facilitator PG
3. Another wing 3&D


What does facilitator PG mean. Ben is a PG and Kyrie/Durant can also create for others.


We've seen how the loss of Harden impacted us. We're left with KD & Kyrie iso ball all the time. Having a facilitator would lessen the predictability in our offense, and dependency with KD to play 40 plus minutes a night. Shooters will get more chances, pnr with Clax, etc.

As currently constructed, only Ben is capable of doing it for us. But having another, would not hurt.

I agree but don’t be surprised if we re-sign Mike James. He doesn’t exactly fit the facilitator role but he is the cheapest option since we retained his rights. Although, I wish we could’ve had more options earlier. I’d be fine with Dwight, Harrell, Thompson or a shooting big like Morris or Cousins.

Unless, it’s someone like Rondo, Bledsoe or Schroeder at the guard positions.

It’s going to be tough finding key pieces to fill this late into the season.
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Post#110 » by gigantes » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:25 pm

JoseRizal wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Our team still have holes, below are 3 spots we need to fill.

1. Back-up C
2. Facilitator PG
3. Another wing 3&D

What does facilitator PG mean. Ben is a PG and Kyrie/Durant can also create for others.

We've seen how the loss of Harden impacted us. We're left with KD & Kyrie iso ball all the time. Having a facilitator would lessen the predictability in our offense, and dependency with KD to play 40 plus minutes a night. Shooters will get more chances, pnr with Clax, etc.

As currently constructed, only Ben is capable of doing it for us. But having another, would not hurt.

It's debatable if Simmons is even a PG. Full-court? Sure. Half? Not AFAIK.

Unless something big changes, the Nets are once again going to be trotting out an iso-heavy attack featuring stars who are good but not great passers, who prefer improvising to running plays.

Meanwhile the Warriors have a true PG who unbelievably loves to set screens because it tends to immediately compromise the value of both the big and the guard, who are naturally very uncomfortable switching coverage roles. Much of that due to how lethal Curry is when left alone.
https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2022/8/21/23314910/warriors-steph-curry-inverted-ball-screens-film-breakdown

Imagine Kyrie's third eye one day opening up like this.
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Post#111 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:33 pm

NetsWorld wrote:With the news now that Jazz really want to trade Mitchell and that we are one of his preferred destinations, is to much to think that perhaps.......JUST PERHAPS...... there is a loophole around his contract and Simmon's contact and they end up playing together? You never know; stranger things have happened. Also, bear in mind, the leaks of him as one of his "preferred" destinations came from a leak, either his camp or the Jazz camp which means there could be talks going on. Ainge has been very generous, with the exception of Gobert with his trades. He WOULD take on a Joe Harris/Pick type of deal for Mitchell. Hey, NOTHING is impossible anymore in this league..... There has to be a loophole allowing him to play with Simmons.

A. It is impossible, there is no loophole.

B. Ainge is not going to take Joe Harris and a couple picks for Donovan Mitchell.
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Post#112 » by haosmoove » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:38 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:With the news now that Jazz really want to trade Mitchell and that we are one of his preferred destinations, is to much to think that perhaps.......JUST PERHAPS...... there is a loophole around his contract and Simmon's contact and they end up playing together? You never know; stranger things have happened. Also, bear in mind, the leaks of him as one of his "preferred" destinations came from a leak, either his camp or the Jazz camp which means there could be talks going on. Ainge has been very generous, with the exception of Gobert with his trades. He WOULD take on a Joe Harris/Pick type of deal for Mitchell. Hey, NOTHING is impossible anymore in this league..... There has to be a loophole allowing him to play with Simmons.

A. It is impossible, there is no loophole.

B. Ainge is not going to take Joe Harris and a couple picks for Donovan Mitchell.


This is most likely ainge leaking potential suitors to drive up price. Because for a while Knicks were bidding against themselves. There's most likely nothing to see here.
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Post#113 » by ConstableChaos » Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:28 pm

there is a chance simmons lead l\the league is assists
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Post#114 » by Riconet » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:35 pm

gigantes wrote:
It's debatable if Simmons is even a PG. Full-court? Sure. Half? Not AFAIK.

Unless something big changes, the Nets are once again going to be trotting out an iso-heavy attack featuring stars who are good but not great passers, who prefer improvising to running plays.

Meanwhile the Warriors have a true PG who unbelievably loves to set screens because it tends to immediately compromise the value of both the big and the guard, who are naturally very uncomfortable switching coverage roles. Much of that due to how lethal Curry is when left alone.
https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2022/8/21/23314910/warriors-steph-curry-inverted-ball-screens-film-breakdown

Imagine Kyrie's third eye one day opening up like this.


I detested Harden almost as much as I detest Kyrie, but I must admit that Harden’s ability to run a half court offense in which he probed, bent and broke the defense was fantastic. I agree that that element is lacking in the current roster and I too am concerned that even with KD, Harris, Curry and Simmons, there won’t be enough creativity and ball movement for the Nets to get buckets late in playoff games against the D of true contenders.
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Post#115 » by Netaman » Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:06 pm

this team needs it's Horford/Iguadala. A glue guy that's universally respected.

Bringing Jeff Green back would be perfect but not sure there's a realistic way to do that. Sharpe + Thomas works on salaries, but who knows if Denver is interested and it's unlikely they are interested in attaching picks (maybe one of the teams that wanted Cam has something that would interest Denver?).

Morris feels an awful lot like James Johnson all over gain, which won't move the needle.

Conley is actually really interesting and you could probably get him for basically a swap with Harris. In small doses he'd probably be a much better version of Dragic. I don't see the nets moving harris though.
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Post#116 » by Tha King » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:02 pm

The offense actually had the second best offensive rating in the playoffs going against the best defense and without two starters. For the regular season it ranked 10th.

The defense though was 20th in the regular season and third worst in the playoffs. Simmons and O'Neale should obviously help but it would be great if there was another good defender (wing) added to the rotation. Just looking ahead to the playoffs, it could be tough to have a good playoff defense with all of Curry, Mills, and Harris in the rotation.
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Post#117 » by 3pt_chucker » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:08 pm

Netaman wrote:this team needs it's Horford/Iguadala. A glue guy that's universally respected.

Bringing Jeff Green back would be perfect but not sure there's a realistic way to do that. Sharpe + Thomas works on salaries, but who knows if Denver is interested and it's unlikely they are interested in attaching picks (maybe one of the teams that wanted Cam has something that would interest Denver?).

Morris feels an awful lot like James Johnson all over gain, which won't move the needle.

Conley is actually really interesting and you could probably get him for basically a swap with Harris. In small doses he'd probably be a much better version of Dragic. I don't see the nets moving harris though.


Agree with the Horford/Iggy part. Might take a trade or maybe from the buy-out market.

I'd take Green but not sure he's worth giving up any real assets. I'm meh on Morris as well but there is not a lot on the market and he could probably be cut after a trade/buy-out if he sucks.

Conley is washed. He won't move the needle. Rather have someone like Mike James but I think he'd want real mins or just stay in Europe.

Team needs a 3rd string PG, so really low, low priority IMO. Celtics just made the finals without a real PG, same with Warriors. Just need a competent ball handler and an defined offensive system which I think happens this season tbh.
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Post#118 » by Papi_swav » Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:06 pm

We should of threw the mid level at Haslem for his leadership abilities lol ... but yea IDK where that leadership is going to come. GS have Draymond who is not afraid to call you out or get in your face which is why KD and him clashed alot. Kyrie and KD and Ben can't handle that type of confrontational player and would get in their feelings everytime. I like Iggy but I would rather a guy that can actually play meaningful minutes than a Haslem type of player coach rotting on the bench. Hopefully TJ Warren has some guts .
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Post#119 » by sweetlou23 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:04 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think Morris would at least give us some toughness.

I wouldn't mind adding him and Dwight for some size.

Thompson, no thanks. Same with Melo.

Leadership does remain the biggest obstacle for this team. Where do we get it?

KD openly says he won't do it.

Kyrie tries and fails.

Simmons of course can't do it.

Maybe we need someone like Mills to do it? Idk.


Leadership is a bigger issue than Center.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong but the Nets don't need a traditional big. Stretch 5? Sure but good luck finding one for cheap at this point.

Also it's really hard having your main leader not be one of your 5 best players. Team needs one of KD, KAI, Ben to step up but as you say, none of those 3 have desired leadership qualities. *Sigh*

The worst part of the Harden trade is that he was the leader of the team and when things were good, he was actually really good at it. Too bad he quit as soon as things got hard and KD backed Kyrie over him.


Simmons is going to dominate. He is extremely underrated right now. The nets are going to win 55 plus games. There are a few false narratives out there surrounding Simmons and what he can and cant do, whether he is soft, how strong he is, how hard he works and whether he has improved as a player. I am going to enjoy watching him put those narratives to rest.

I was going to say this...its really hard when none of your best players are leaders, and your best player basically has one foot out the door.


Simmons is going to dominate. He is extremely underrated right now. The nets are going to win 55 plus games. There are a few false narratives out there surrounding Simmons and what he can and cant do, whether he is soft, how strong he is, how hard he works and whether he has improved as a player. I am going to enjoy watching him put those narratives to rest. And yeah, Simmons can lead.
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Post#120 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:05 pm

Tha King wrote:The offense actually had the second best offensive rating in the playoffs going against the best defense and without two starters. For the regular season it ranked 10th.

The defense though was 20th in the regular season and third worst in the playoffs. Simmons and O'Neale should obviously help but it would be great if there was another good defender (wing) added to the rotation. Just looking ahead to the playoffs, it could be tough to have a good playoff defense with all of Curry, Mills, and Harris in the rotation.


The Curry-Kyrie back court was a nightmare defensively.

Replacing it with anything will be a huge imrpovement.

I think Harris alone helps a ton.

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