Pat Bev to LAL for THT

[stan francisco]

At least you can count on Beverly to bring effort every night. That’ll go a long way.

True. We’ve been missing that. I worry only about his physical readiness, durability. He will also be tossed from a game or three for talking. I loved Stanley Johnson here.

[Ball so hard]

I feel like this is a trade we’ll regret in no time. THT’s value was obviously at its lowest point. Surprised we gave up this quickly. It’s not like Beverly alone moves the needle much. Would it not have better to sign Schröder (the better player btw) for the vet min while keeping THT to see if he turns things around this year. I’m far from a THT guy, but this move just doesn’t make much sense to me given the alternatives. You chose THT over Caruso a year ago only to trade THT for next to nothing a year later. You extend Vogel only to let him go a year later. You gave up young player and a pick to get Russ a year ago and now it’s looking like you’ll have to attach at least one pick to get rid of him a year later.

[MAMBAEMD]

I think adding Beverly is a solid move because he will bring effort and D.
In addition to lacking talent and chemistry, this team lacked an identity throughout the year.

Beverly will bring that grit and hustle and defensive effort which I'm hoping will be our identity next year, and is Ham's way of coaching.

[tamaraw08]

I think adding Beverly is a solid move because he will bring effort and D.
In addition to lacking talent and chemistry, this team lacked an identity throughout the year.

Beverly will bring that grit and hustle and defensive effort which I'm hoping will be our identity next year, and is Ham's way of coaching.

Effort and D and hopefully him and Nunn can shoot about 38% from 3, provide the much needed spacing for Lebron and AD to operate.

[TylersLakers]

I like the fit but THT is good and young...

I am concerned that this trade means no Hield (2 year deal)...

MLE: Lonnie Walker... Could have got a Martin or Donte,,,
Vet Min: Love JTA but Brown, Bryant and Damien?
Trade: THT for Beverly... May be a better fit but Utah may have waived him...

Not sure Pelinka is as good a GM as Agent...

Definitely wouldn't classify him as a good player, but he's still only 21 so only time will tell if this is another front office blunder. My gut tells me this is the right move not only in the short run but in the long run as well. I don't see THT being anything more than a backend bench player.

Yup.

For THT to be a "good" player, he needs to be a lead ball handler. And if he's one of the lead ball handlers on a team, you're going to suck.

[TheHartBreakKid]

I don't see how anyone could be criticizing this move. It makes perfect sense. It makes sense salary wise and it makes sense basketball wise. Considering no one on this board had THT or Stanley in their ideal rotation, even if Pat Bev is hurt/washed up and plays a sideline role, he's still providing value in the locker room, while opening up capspace next year.

[Landsberger]

I don't see how anyone could be criticizing this move. It makes perfect sense. It makes sense salary wise and it makes sense basketball wise. Considering no one on this board had THT or Stanley in their ideal rotation, even if Pat Bev is hurt/washed up and plays a sideline role, he's still providing value in the locker room, while opening up capspace next year.

I think his value in a deal to get rid of Westbrook is worth more.

[TheHartBreakKid]

I don't see how anyone could be criticizing this move. It makes perfect sense. It makes sense salary wise and it makes sense basketball wise. Considering no one on this board had THT or Stanley in their ideal rotation, even if Pat Bev is hurt/washed up and plays a sideline role, he's still providing value in the locker room, while opening up capspace next year.

I think his value in a deal to get rid of Westbrook is worth more.

Are you referring to THT or Bev?

[Landsberger]

I don't see how anyone could be criticizing this move. It makes perfect sense. It makes sense salary wise and it makes sense basketball wise. Considering no one on this board had THT or Stanley in their ideal rotation, even if Pat Bev is hurt/washed up and plays a sideline role, he's still providing value in the locker room, while opening up capspace next year.

I think his value in a deal to get rid of Westbrook is worth more.

Are you referring to THT or Bev?

THT. A young guy with some talent as a sweetener to take Westbrook is worth more than Beverly.

[stan francisco]

I think his value in a deal to get rid of Westbrook is worth more.

Are you referring to THT or Bev?

THT. A young guy with some talent as a sweetener to take Westbrook is worth more than Beverly.

Well, it seems they tried and failed and decided to sit Russ out, went and got Beverly. https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268420/Russell-Westbrook-Likely-To-Be-Off-Lakers-Active-Roster-Following-Patrick-Beverley-Trade

[tamaraw08]

I think his value in a deal to get rid of Westbrook is worth more.

Are you referring to THT or Bev?

THT. A young guy with some talent as a sweetener to take Westbrook is worth more than Beverly.

A young guy with some talent who has regressed the last 3 years with his FG and 3pt%. He missed 73% of his 3’s, failed to play good enough defense after they lost KCP AND Caruso and can use his player option after this season if he sucked again. Someone said the only reason Ainge took him is because THT will surely help him tank and lose many games.. that and he has to reach their salary floor.

[danfantastk32]

Are you referring to THT or Bev?

THT. A young guy with some talent as a sweetener to take Westbrook is worth more than Beverly.

Well, it seems they tried and failed and decided to sit Russ out, went and got Beverly. https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268420/Russell-Westbrook-Likely-To-Be-Off-Lakers-Active-Roster-Following-Patrick-Beverley-Trade

Yeah, I was gonna say.....If THT had "sweetened" the deal to any extent, we'd have all been celebrating Westbrick's departure by now. I think the Lakers explored that option, and it got them nowhere.

The issue as I see it, is that the league knows the Lakers are desperate to make moves. Just make your demands...and sit tight. The Lakers will scream and yell.....and then call you back in a couple weeks ready to make the deal. I'm glad the Lakers have showed discipline on Westbrick. But as the season gets closer...I expect that to fall through as well. I expect Indiana will get the 2-3 picks they want. And they know it.

[Pointgod]

Horrible trade. Shades of Zubac for Mike Muscala **** trade from a couple seasons ago. What we should be doing is starting THT and building up his value to get a low first round pick. I mean we couldn’t even get a couple seconds from Utah for him? It’s like Pelinka just wanted the expiring and a media friendly name in return.

[stan francisco]

If THT develops into an impact player, it’ll happen this year. Spilt milk, but I’d hate to see him flourish while Bev goes DNP due to age.

[Landsberger]

Are you referring to THT or Bev?

THT. A young guy with some talent as a sweetener to take Westbrook is worth more than Beverly.

A young guy with some talent who has regressed the last 3 years with his FG and 3pt%. He missed 73% of his 3’s, failed to play good enough defense after they lost KCP AND Caruso and can use his player option after this season if he sucked again. Someone said the only reason Ainge took him is because THT will surely help him tank and lose many games.. that and he has to reach their salary floor.

I'm by no means a THT fan, however I've always thought Beverly has been vastly overrated and stays in the media eye by this antics. At this point he's not as good as I didn't think he was 5 years ago.

[tamaraw08]

THT. A young guy with some talent as a sweetener to take Westbrook is worth more than Beverly.

A young guy with some talent who has regressed the last 3 years with his FG and 3pt%. He missed 73% of his 3’s, failed to play good enough defense after they lost KCP AND Caruso and can use his player option after this season if he sucked again. Someone said the only reason Ainge took him is because THT will surely help him tank and lose many games.. that and he has to reach their salary floor.

I'm by no means a THT fan, however I've always thought Beverly has been vastly overrated and stays in the media eye by this antics. At this point he's not as good as I didn't think he was 5 years ago.

Per Windhorst, several GMs told him that they have ZERO INTEREST in acquiring THT. Like I said, the only probable reason why Ainge wanted him was because he would suck so bad that he’ll help Utah tank this year.

[danfantastk32]

If THT develops into an impact player, it’ll happen this year. Spilt milk, but I’d hate to see him flourish while Bev goes DNP due to age.

I used to argue with people about the Shaq trade back in the day. The Shaq we had (the "I got hurt on company time, I'll heal on company time") was not the uber-motivated Shaq that went to Miami. Yeah, it was annoying to watch the Heat grab a title, but had we moved Kobe, and kept Shaq....we'd have kept the fat & happy Shaq. There would've been no title (well who knows....we woulda got a king's randsom for Kobe).....at least the Shaq we woulda had, would not have been the Shaq Miami got.....you get the idea.

I'd throw the same at THT. Maybe down in there, is the potential to be a really good player. But that's not gonna come out in this system, with these players around him. Lebron, right or wrong, takes a ton of oxygen in the room. It is what it is. THT may blossom into something valuable....but whas he gonna do it here?

I liked THT as a trade piece, but sounds like market was pretty bare as well. Clearly teams want our picks to go along with Westbrick, and not THT....so this trade works for me.

Not saying its a great trade....but I got no beef with it.

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[LAL1947]

PatBev is living the dream, haha. I thought this reaction from him was pretty cool.

Woke up a Laker!!! Aren't those words we'd all love to post too.

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[Eric Bieniemy]

This trade will look horrific a year from now. If Ainge makes Tucker the starting PG alongside Sexton, Tucker will explode. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him average nearly 20 a game if he's given top-three option role (which is very possible).

That being said, he is a bad fit on the Lakers, so although I believe he'll blow up elsewhere, I probably still do this trade, as most times chemistry is better than talent.

The Lakers biggest mistake was playing him in the bubble. They should have let him watch on the sidelines and played him in a limited designated defensive role the following year. Basically, they did a horrible job surpressing his value and making defense his calling card. Trading for Westbrook only made things worse.

He's primed to breakout this year. Mark my words.