Options to fix the PF hole

[dougthonus]

They have until the trade deadline to make a move if one is needed.

I'm fine on waiting to see if Pat takes a step forward, and I really liked what DJJ brought to the team last year before the injuries.

You could wait and see if Pat takes a step forward and still have a 2nd legitimate PF on the roster.

[GoBlue72391]

There is no hole at PF

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You're right, it's more of a crater than a hole.

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[sco]

I wonder if Utah waives Stan Johnson. He'd be a good add if we can free-up a roster spot.

[Tetlak]

I wonder if Utah waives Stan Johnson. He'd be a good add if we can free-up a roster spot.

Did he improve at something since we last cut him?

[Stratmaster]

I'm surprised that with all the off-season workout videos of Williams surfacing there hasn't been exaggerated reports of how much he grew or how much muscle he gained. Maybe that will come with Media Day.

And as much as those same updates get made every year. Basketball-reference lists Williams at 6'7" 215 lbs. How much would he have to grow for you to no longer be concerned that he lacks size at the 4?

6'9" 240 works for me

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[PJSteven22]

I'm surprised that with all the off-season workout videos of Williams surfacing there hasn't been exaggerated reports of how much he grew or how much muscle he gained. Maybe that will come with Media Day.

And as much as those same updates get made every year. Basketball-reference lists Williams at 6'7" 215 lbs. How much would he have to grow for you to no longer be concerned that he lacks size at the 4?

6'9" 240 works for me

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That’s bigger than some centers

[LateNight]

I'm surprised that with all the off-season workout videos of Williams surfacing there hasn't been exaggerated reports of how much he grew or how much muscle he gained. Maybe that will come with Media Day.

And as much as those same updates get made every year. Basketball-reference lists Williams at 6'7" 215 lbs. How much would he have to grow for you to no longer be concerned that he lacks size at the 4?

6'9" 240 works for me

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That’s bigger than some centers

No joke - I think that’s Alonzo Mourning’s true height and weight.

[SHO'NUFF]

If you actually watch the whole vid on Patrick Williams scrimmage he looks slow on D and much of the same on offense (saw nothing new). Just being honest. Either that or he wasn't trying.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

I’m admittedly low on PW. I don’t think he can assert himself in a real game while having other playmakers around him. He just falls into the background.

He still has good starter potential, but he’s really not that missing piece IMO.

[kodo]

If you actually watch the whole vid on Patrick Williams scrimmage he looks slow on D and much of the same on offense (saw nothing new). Just being honest. Either that or he wasn't trying.

Just how summer goes for NBA guys. If you're playing just for fun you're going to be playing like a guard, outside on the dribble & shooting and not playing any D. Chet Holmgren is exhibit A why you don't play D in the summer. Guys like Andre Drummond and Aaron Gordon just shoot jumpers in all their summer games. But when the season starts they get back to their day jobs of defense & blue collar work.

We won't know anything til the season starts. But I assume Patrick will be Patrick until proven otherwise.

[drosestruts]

6'9" 240 works for me

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That’s bigger than some centers

No joke - I think that’s Alonzo Mourning’s true height and weight.

Yeah that's pretty big. I was just asking cause Williams was I think the youngest player in his draft. He just turned 21 today. The measurements on sites like that are often taken from the draft combine and then rarely updated.

It's not impossible for me to believe Williams did or could have grown some since draft night.

[FecesOfDeath]

Patrick is just the right size for the modern day 4. Nocioni was the same size playing PF at a time when he was considered to be undersized.

[Stratmaster]

I'm surprised that with all the off-season workout videos of Williams surfacing there hasn't been exaggerated reports of how much he grew or how much muscle he gained. Maybe that will come with Media Day.

And as much as those same updates get made every year. Basketball-reference lists Williams at 6'7" 215 lbs. How much would he have to grow for you to no longer be concerned that he lacks size at the 4?

6'9" 240 works for me

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That’s bigger than some centers

Yes. Yes it is. But not as big as most. The average center in the NBA right now is 6'10"/246. The average PF is 6'8"/227.

Our Center is 6'10"/255. But the way he is played negates that size offensively, and he just doesn't play that big defensively. He plays like 6'8" 230'. Therefore, our PF needs to be about 6'9" 240' and play like it.

Of course, my post was tongue in cheek unless anyone believes Williams grew 2+ inches in the off-season.

[Stratmaster]

Patrick is just the right size for the modern day 4. Nocioni was the same size playing PF at a time when he was considered to be undersized.

I will have to agree to disagree. If the trend continues he may eventually be the right size. Right now he is undersized, and undersized enough to make a difference.

[Stratmaster]

That’s bigger than some centers

No joke - I think that’s Alonzo Mourning’s true height and weight.

Yeah that's pretty big. I was just asking cause Williams was I think the youngest player in his draft. He just turned 21 today. The measurements on sites like that are often taken from the draft combine and then rarely updated.

It's not impossible for me to believe Williams did or could have grown some since draft night.

funny thing is, he was listed as 6'8" 225' at the time of the draft (NBA.com). It suddenly became 6'7"/215' once he got to the NBA. My bet is he is about 6'6.5". He may actually be up to 215' at this point.

[Stratmaster]

Just for poops and giggles, the average SF is 6'6.4", 213'. Gee, who (other than DDR) on the Bulls does that describe perfectly?

[MGB8]

I wonder if Utah waives Stan Johnson. He'd be a good add if we can free-up a roster spot.

But, but, but, he’s a good inch shorter than Pat!

[BeKuK]

Let Pat handle this open PF hole issue! I don't see why he should not be able to fill that spot right now because we are not getting anybody who is close to be a game changer. (Without a big trade)

Unless we are getting a "real good one" I am more than happy to give that young guy this chance after seeing him this summer working hard.

[PrimzyBulls81]

I would still consider B.Griffin or C.Anthony for PF backup spot.. Waive Tony Bradley

[Stratmaster]

I wonder if Utah waives Stan Johnson. He'd be a good add if we can free-up a roster spot.

But, but, but, he’s a good inch shorter than Pat!

No, he isn't. He is listed at 6'6" or 6'7" depending on the site and, and, and, 242'. And, and, and he has played more SF in his career than PF.

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