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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#41 » by Johnny Firpo » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:28 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:Kyrie because hes so unpredictable


I think Kyrie is a pretty consistent idiot, always doing/saying idiotic things.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#42 » by Tim Kempton » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:44 am

Ruma85 wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Currently it's Durant. But that's low hanging fruit.

Derek Fisher and Nate Robinson are up there but Mark Jackson would probably be my #1. He has a history of purposely dividing locker rooms and organizations as a player and a coach. Not to mention his awful phony personality and off-court nonsense.


Why Nate and Fisher?


Nate - Fight with Malik Rose. Several disagreements with coaches resulting in suspension and near D-League relegation. Temperamental. Glory hog type personality who looked out only for himself.

Fisher - Dates (and eventually marries) his former teammate's ex-wife. Can't trust people like that, especially since they started dating behind Matt Barnes's back. Besides that, he somehow gets a pass for using his sickly child as an excuse to leave Utah and go back to LA. He was under contract with the Jazz and told then-owner Larry Miller that he had to move to NY so his daughter could get treatment for her eye cancer (no issue there, obviously). Miller, in good faith, releases him from his contract and Fisher signs with the Lakers. Players lie to owners all the time (fair game), but to use your cancer stricken daughter is just disgustingly low. He's a snake of the highest order.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#43 » by Ruma85 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:25 am

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Ruma85 wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Currently it's Durant. But that's low hanging fruit.

Derek Fisher and Nate Robinson are up there but Mark Jackson would probably be my #1. He has a history of purposely dividing locker rooms and organizations as a player and a coach. Not to mention his awful phony personality and off-court nonsense.


Why Nate and Fisher?


Nate - Fight with Malik Rose. Several disagreements with coaches resulting in suspension and near D-League relegation. Temperamental. Glory hog type personality who looked out only for himself.

Fisher - Dates (and eventually marries) his former teammate's ex-wife. Can't trust people like that, especially since they started dating behind Matt Barnes's back. Besides that, he somehow gets a pass for using his sickly child as an excuse to leave Utah and go back to LA. He was under contract with the Jazz and told then-owner Larry Miller that he had to move to NY so his daughter could get treatment for her eye cancer (no issue there, obviously). Miller, in good faith, releases him from his contract and Fisher signs with the Lakers. Players lie to owners all the time (fair game), but to use your cancer stricken daughter is just disgustingly low. He's a snake of the highest order.


All these players look after themselves first.

I know that about fisher, I think he find better treatment for his daughter in L.A might as well sign with the lakers.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#44 » by rzzzzz » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:50 pm

JTG_92940618 wrote:DeMarcus Cousins. I always think about the story of him and Nik Stauskas.


Doug Collins watched Cousins throw Favors all over the court in their pre-draft workout, and knew for sure he was the best talent. But his toxic reputation coming out of Kentucky made Collins go with ET (who at best replicated what the team already had) instead of filling the team’s absolute need of a quality center. So much for Collins. Cousins made life hell for the Kings, early on, but I was glad to seem him chill out sufficiently as he matured. Shame about his injuries just when he seemed to have the whole package put together.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#45 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:55 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:Kyrie is the right answer here imo. There isn't a single person on this forum who'd say they'd have no problems playing with Kyrie with a straight face. Dude is a straight up virus to team chemistry.

most teammates havent really had a problem with outside of him just not wanting to play. chemistry with kyrie isnt that hard; hes not going to pass you the ball :lol: . by that logic, kawhi is toxic, chris paul is toxic and joel embiid is toxic.

I'd say lebron when hes not engaged is worse.
Dwight was pretty bad in houston
Mitchell and gobert are low key awful. gobert blaming his teammates all the time and mitchell deadass not passing one dude the ball not playing d, being having bad body language when hes playing poorly.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#46 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:23 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:Kyrie is the right answer here imo. There isn't a single person on this forum who'd say they'd have no problems playing with Kyrie with a straight face. Dude is a straight up virus to team chemistry.

most teammates havent really had a problem with outside of him just not wanting to play. chemistry with kyrie isnt that hard; hes not going to pass you the ball :lol: . by that logic, kawhi is toxic, chris paul is toxic and joel embiid is toxic.

I'd say lebron when hes not engaged is worse.
Dwight was pretty bad in houston
Mitchell and gobert are low key awful. gobert blaming his teammates all the time and mitchell deadass not passing one dude the ball not playing d, being having bad body language when hes playing poorly.


Nah im going with Kyrie as the worst guy to have on your team. For me personally he's the absolute worst kind of player to have on your team. He'll somehow throw a wrench whatever the coach is trying to do. Take time off and when he plays isn't good enough to warrant a team putting up with him.

If im the Nets im never extending him. Dude doesn't want to build a culture within the team. Wherever he's gone since the Cavs dysfunction has followed.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie choose the Nets because he thought he'd be some kind of a puppet master pulling strings within the team. Hey i'll be the coach! I'll talk with Joe Tsai about what to do in the future.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#47 » by JRoy » Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:41 pm

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Tim Kempton wrote:Currently it's Durant. But that's low hanging fruit.

Derek Fisher and Nate Robinson are up there but Mark Jackson would probably be my #1. He has a history of purposely dividing locker rooms and organizations as a player and a coach. Not to mention his awful phony personality and off-court nonsense.


Since the 90’s this is the answer. Hard to be more toxic than a theocratic fascist.


Fascist?

Do tell.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#48 » by UcanUwill » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:03 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:Arenas thread made me think of Javaris Crittenton for this.


Yeah, the OP said NBA players past or present so it would be pretty hard to top Crittenton. Kind of like how the NFL equivalent would be Aaron Hernandez. The active player toxic king would be Kyrie


I think I named Crittenton before Kyrie, well, obvious reasons, but is that Crittenton was so toxic, he was a key catalyst for an entire locker room going so bad, they were either traded or out of the league, think about that... NBA teams are full of young American men, if you insert just flat out criminal in there, it can be terrible catalyst for it to go wrong really bad.

With Kyrie, the worst he does is alienate his team and stood up his team. He suppose to be a star, so its terrible enough, but you get rid of him and you are ok, Crittenton on the other hand got half of his team traded ASAP. I think it is hard to top a literal gang criminal who pulls out guns in a locker room, not like he is sole reason for a mexican stand off, it takes two to tango, but he was probably main reason why Washington players started carrying guns to locker room too, thats just crazy story, sadly only happens in the US.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#49 » by dk1115 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:08 pm

I can't tell you the most toxic personality, but I can tell you the most toxic combination. KD+ Kyrie+ Harden
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#50 » by GSWFan1994 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:47 pm

JTG_92940618 wrote:DeMarcus Cousins. I always think about the story of him and Nik Stauskas.


I don't remember that one... what happened?
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#51 » by Nate505 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:49 pm

The Nets have the Top 3, all on one team. It's kind of amazing.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#52 » by babyjax13 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:49 pm

Probably Kirk Snyder, but for most unlikable...Kyrie. Not a question.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#53 » by GSWFan1994 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:53 pm

JRoy wrote:
SNPA wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Currently it's Durant. But that's low hanging fruit.

Derek Fisher and Nate Robinson are up there but Mark Jackson would probably be my #1. He has a history of purposely dividing locker rooms and organizations as a player and a coach. Not to mention his awful phony personality and off-court nonsense.


Since the 90’s this is the answer. Hard to be more toxic than a theocratic fascist.


Fascist?

Do tell.


Yeah, I wondered about that comment as well.

As much as I don't like Mark Jackson, I don't see what he has to do with fascism or being a fascist, which is an entirely different matter.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#54 » by Bornstellar » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:56 pm

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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#55 » by Bankai » Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:57 pm

Past: Javaris Crittenton
Present: Kyrie Irving
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#56 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:06 pm

Rudy Gobert - Just seems like a guy who can be a bit too honest. Might be the french rude culture. Plus his Covid thing. Russell Westbrook, it's weird nobody said his name. Does not have the ability to take a lesser role like so many have done before him in his position. Jimmy Butler, always rubbing people the wrong way. He might be right, but there are better ways to deal with it.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#57 » by LAL1947 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:12 pm

I honestly can't think of anyone more toxic to his own team than Lakers Shaq in his last few years here. The ass gifted the Spurs a dynasty, which they would not have been if Shaq had not been toxic and helped the Lakers win the 2003 and 2005 titles)... which is what helped make Duncan into a Top 10 player... and now people even rate Duncan over Shaq. I guess that's karma, lol.

- Arrogant
- A bully
- Lazy
- Out of shape
- Wanting to be leader without leading
- Only happy as long as he gets to eat the most mentality
- Only happy as long as he gets all the girls mentality
- Unhappy that young all-time great teammate has risen over him
- Lacking graciousness when talking about teammate who helped him 3-peat
- His overall attitude causes great teammate to act in a similar manner
- Contract dispute
- Uses regular season to recuperate, not the off season
- Is highest paid in league and knows team needs better depth yet insists on being paid more
- Then agrees to take lower salary at new team
- Insists on trade to desired destination in lopsided deal

How many other players check all of these boxes?

So I have very little time for Shaq, the big girl's blouse. With the benefit of hindsight, the Lakers should have gotten rid of him in 2002 instead of 2004, and gotten back better assets.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#58 » by MrGoat » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:34 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
MrGoat wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Arenas thread made me think of Javaris Crittenton for this.


Yeah, the OP said NBA players past or present so it would be pretty hard to top Crittenton. Kind of like how the NFL equivalent would be Aaron Hernandez. The active player toxic king would be Kyrie


I think I named Crittenton before Kyrie, well, obvious reasons, but is that Crittenton was so toxic, he was a key catalyst for an entire locker room going so bad, they were either traded or out of the league, think about that... NBA teams are full of young American men, if you insert just flat out criminal in there, it can be terrible catalyst for it to go wrong really bad.

With Kyrie, the worst he does is alienate his team and stood up his team. He suppose to be a star, so its terrible enough, but you get rid of him and you are ok, Crittenton on the other hand got half of his team traded ASAP. I think it is hard to top a literal gang criminal who pulls out guns in a locker room, not like he is sole reason for a mexican stand off, it takes two to tango, but he was probably main reason why Washington players started carrying guns to locker room too, thats just crazy story, sadly only happens in the US.


The only other guy I can think of who blew up his team in a single act was Artest. But even what he did was way more justifiable (the fan did start it), it wasn't in the locker room, and he did eventually help a team win a championship so even he's not even close to Crittenton. Looking up Crittenton I'm actually shocked to see that he's scheduled to be released from prison in 2036, I figured they were going to throw away the key with him. Crittenton alone is more toxic than the entire Jail Blazers roster, also Kyrie, KD, and Simmons combined, he really is the only answer. I think the Wizards were pretty glad they had already changed their name to the Wizards when it happened
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#59 » by FuShengTHEGreat » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:25 pm

Obviously Vernon Maxwell.

- Right off the bat as a rookie in San Antonio he was warned not to go out partying as it was affecting his level of play and the next day after being warned he was caught at a night club and they offloaded him.

- Repeatedly arrested during his NBA career. Once pulled a gun on a motorist outside the Rockets practice facility.

- Went into the stands to punch a fan 10 years before Ron Artest did.

Got into a wild brawl with Gary Payton that left Horace Grant in stitches after being hit by a dumbbell. Not the first time Vernon hit a teammate with a dumbbell..as he clubbed Carl Herrera with a dumbbell as well that also left him in stitches.

And this 'almost' incident with Hakeem



Vernon was the most out of control player in NBA history.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#60 » by slicedbread2 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:47 pm

There's a lot of past and present you can use:

1) Anthony Mason. Was apart of those Ewing era Knicks squads and was sent to Charlotte for Larry Johnson. Wildly despised in Milwaukee because at the time he was seen as the final piece to put over the Ray Allen era Bucks into the finals that featured Sam Cassell and Glenn "big dog" Robinson. Instead was a team cancer that literally killed the Bucks chemistry and it resulted in them not only missing the playoffs but the entire Bucks core being dismantled within 2 years.

2) The Jail Blazers. That whole team was nuts to the point you could call it the NBA's nuthouse before the Irving/Durant Nets took over. I won't go too much into details but one dude that stuck out to me the most was Ruben Patterson who was such a nut job off the court that he was forced to register as a sex offender due to sexually assaulting his kids' babysitter who was 15 at the time.

3) Gilbert Arenas. Dude was talented but a nut. He'll forever be known for bringing guns into a locker room over a $1100 gambling debt with Javaris Crittenton due to the latter being involved in the gang life. Thankfully Caron Butler somehow managed to diffuse the situation but man it's insane how badly his career dropped after the injury.

4) Tony Parker. Mostly because he's a snake that was stupid enough to cheat on Eva Longoria with Brent Barry's now ex-wife with whom he had 2 sons. It was such a mess that half the Spurs locker room wanted to beat him up over the whole debacle. Can't trust a dude like that.

5) Demarcus Cousins. Really a shame that he didn't mature enough. Dude had the potential to be a really great player. Yes it sucked that he was drafted by a dysfunctional franchise in the Kings, but he didn't do himself any favours in the way he handled himself. Him and Mike Malone got along pretty well and I thought he'd be the perfect backup C to Jokic in Denver, but after that blowup with Barton in the playoffs, I don't see anybody taking a flyer on him unless it's a 10-day due to the injuries.

I'm missing some more and honestly the Durant/Irving/Simmons thing is low fruit and has been well covered but man I could only imagine the BS the 12-15 guys at the end of the bench have to deal with to keep their composure.

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