Insight into Wilt's 100 point game?

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Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#1 » by Duffman100 » Thu Sep 1, 2022 1:49 pm

The strength of the opponent? The strategy of the other team? How he scored the points?

I was thinking today of this game and curious of these questions and I was drawing parallels to Kobe's 81 point game.

Kobe's 81 points were incredible. From someone who watched it live, I was just dumbfounded by his ability to score. But there was also the story of what the Raptors did. Sam Mitchell refused to double team Kobe. The Raps were winning most the game and Mitchell had said he was willing to let Kobe keeping scoring as long as the Raps won the game. Kobe was being guarded by Mopete, Joey Graham, Jalen Rose... not great defenders. The Raptors team in generally was pretty weak defensively.

Is there a similar story behind Wilt's 100?
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Post#2 » by dk1115 » Thu Sep 1, 2022 1:52 pm

The most common one I hear is that Philly was fouling the other team on purpose to get wilt to 100, even though they were winning already
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#3 » by Rich Michmond » Thu Sep 1, 2022 2:23 pm

Wilt going 28/32 from the free throw line looks pretty bizarre given how bad of a foul shooter he was. Granted, 1962 was his best season in that regard.
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#4 » by SlovenianDragon » Thu Sep 1, 2022 2:31 pm

Rich Michmond wrote:Wilt going 28/32 from the free throw line looks pretty bizarre given how bad of a foul shooter he was. Granted, 1962 was his best season in that regard.


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Post#5 » by Ein Sof » Thu Sep 1, 2022 2:48 pm

Proof that any random bum can have a career performance
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#6 » by Duffman100 » Thu Sep 1, 2022 2:50 pm

Ein Sof wrote:Proof that any random bum can have a career performance


Is it Kobe or Wilt that is the bum?
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#7 » by MrBigShot » Thu Sep 1, 2022 4:05 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Ein Sof wrote:Proof that any random bum can have a career performance


Is it Kobe or Wilt that is the bum?


Saw a stat the other week, IIRC adjusted for 2006 pace Wilt's was 69 points, adjusted for pace 1962 pace Kobe was at 119 points.

The end of Wilt's 100 point game was a complete and utter farce. The opposing team, getting blown out, was actively fouling other philly players, and deliberately slowing down offensively. Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out. He also took 63 shots. Can you imagine giving any of Steph Curry, Jokic, Luka, Giannis or KD the greenlight to shoot 63 times in a game? How many points would they score?

Most overrated scoring performance in NBA history. Kobe's 81, and his 62 in 3 quarters, both blow it out of the absolute water.
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#8 » by WillyJakkz » Thu Sep 1, 2022 4:22 pm

Very very unpopular opinion but here goes.

I wholeheartedly believe Wilt Chamberlain (R.I.P.) was the Ultimate Stat Stuffer.

Phenomenally gifted, yes. Superior athleticism, absolutely. He seemed to be the type to care about getting glory and rec from others by showing he could score lots of points, grab all of the rebounds, and block alot of shots.

"They said I couldn't pass the ball so what'd I do the following season? Lead the League in total assists!" He did that to show he could be the leader (another stat) in assists. He didn't have a killer will to win, he had a killer will to show he could outscore rebound etc others but not necessarily beat them.

Numerous Divisional exits and some Finals Losses. I think he did it for the adjulation and attention.

Bill Russell, Kareem, Bill Walton did it to win.

100pts is impressive although the competition was not.
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Post#9 » by druggas » Thu Sep 1, 2022 4:28 pm

Wilt didn't have a 3 point line so his 100 is legit. I watched the Spurs help David Robinson to 71 points so that he could pass Shaq for the scoring title, so let's be fair to all.
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Post#10 » by Smalltown » Thu Sep 1, 2022 4:45 pm

MrBigShot wrote:The end of Wilt's 100 point game was a complete and utter farce. The opposing team, getting blown out, was actively fouling other philly players, and deliberately slowing down offensively. Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out.


This literally happens in a third of games where someone scores 50+. Hell it even happens in games where someone is over 30 at times. 100 points is a damn near impossible feat even with "help".
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#11 » by Duffman100 » Thu Sep 1, 2022 4:49 pm

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MrBigShot wrote:The end of Wilt's 100 point game was a complete and utter farce. The opposing team, getting blown out, was actively fouling other philly players, and deliberately slowing down offensively. Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out.


This literally happens in a third of games where someone scores 50+. Hell it even happens in games where someone is over 30 at times. 100 points is a damn near impossible feat even with "help".


Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out.


That doesn't happen though.
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Post#12 » by Smalltown » Thu Sep 1, 2022 5:01 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Smalltown wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:The end of Wilt's 100 point game was a complete and utter farce. The opposing team, getting blown out, was actively fouling other philly players, and deliberately slowing down offensively. Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out.


This literally happens in a third of games where someone scores 50+. Hell it even happens in games where someone is over 30 at times. 100 points is a damn near impossible feat even with "help".


Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out.


That doesn't happen though.


I have absolutely seen it. Not just in high scoring situations. Sometimes to help a guy get a triple double or set some kind of franchise record.
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Post#13 » by MrBigShot » Thu Sep 1, 2022 5:03 pm

Smalltown wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Smalltown wrote:
This literally happens in a third of games where someone scores 50+. Hell it even happens in games where someone is over 30 at times. 100 points is a damn near impossible feat even with "help".


Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out.


That doesn't happen though.


I have absolutely seen it. Not just in high scoring situations. Sometimes to help a guy get a triple double or set some kind of franchise record.


An intentional foul once at the end of the game to get the ball back sure. From accounts of the game, the fouling happened for almost the entire 4th quarter.
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Post#14 » by Smalltown » Thu Sep 1, 2022 5:10 pm

MrBigShot wrote:From accounts of the game, the fouling happened for almost the entire 4th quarter.


Yes but for context they were just countering the Knicks.

"He scored 23 points in the first quarter and had 41 by halftime, then tallied 28 in the third quarter, when the fans began to chant, "Give It To Wilt! Give It To Wilt!"

That's exactly what the Warriors did, feeding Chamberlain at every opportunity in the fourth quarter. The Knicks tried fouling other Philadelphia players to keep the ball away from Chamberlain, but the Warriors countered by committing fouls of their own to get the ball back."
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Post#15 » by old skool » Thu Sep 1, 2022 5:27 pm

100 points was only double his overall per game scoring average. The man was a machine.

Clearly 100 points was an aberration that had to include some unusual tactics by the Warriors. It was newsworthy, but not heavily publicized at the time.

I think it is unfortunate that in 2022 people feel the need to denigrate Chamberlain. He was the best basketball player of his era. Better than Oscar, Russell, West, Baylor or Petit. Better than any of the 8 or so HOF players that played on the Celtics with the great Bill Russell. If Wilt had played for Boston, the Celtics would have won just as many titles as they did with Russell, and it would have been even less competitive than it was.

Denigrating Chamberlain is uninformed.

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Post#16 » by meekrab » Thu Sep 1, 2022 5:29 pm

Duffman100 wrote:The strength of the opponent?

Plumbers and stock traders as was typical of the era.
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#17 » by Rich Michmond » Thu Sep 1, 2022 6:05 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:
Rich Michmond wrote:Wilt going 28/32 from the free throw line looks pretty bizarre given how bad of a foul shooter he was. Granted, 1962 was his best season in that regard.


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Post#18 » by hauntedcomputer » Thu Sep 1, 2022 7:12 pm

Rich Michmond wrote:Wilt going 28/32 from the free throw line looks pretty bizarre given how bad of a foul shooter he was. Granted, 1962 was his best season in that regard.


It was one of the years he shot them underhanded. Apparently he got good underhanded but then started getting worse again so switched back, and he always stood a foot or two behind the stripe for some weird reason. But yeah Kobe playing hero ball is legit, and all other stat stuffers are to be shamed.
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Re: Insight into Wilt's 100 point game? 

Post#19 » by HotelVitale » Thu Sep 1, 2022 7:32 pm

MrBigShot wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Ein Sof wrote:Proof that any random bum can have a career performance
Is it Kobe or Wilt that is the bum?
Saw a stat the other week, IIRC adjusted for 2006 pace Wilt's was 69 points, adjusted for pace 1962 pace Kobe was at 119 points.

The end of Wilt's 100 point game was a complete and utter farce. The opposing team, getting blown out, was actively fouling other philly players, and deliberately slowing down offensively. Wilt's team on the other hand, was ALSO intentionally fouling a team that they were blowing out. He also took 63 shots. Can you imagine giving any of Steph Curry, Jokic, Luka, Giannis or KD the greenlight to shoot 63 times in a game? How many points would they score? Most overrated scoring performance in NBA history. Kobe's 81, and his 62 in 3 quarters, both blow it out of the absolute water.


Eh, I'm not a Wilt guy but this doesn't sound right. The challenge of scoring 100pts is actually getting off enough looks that you can score 100pts. Curry, Luka, etc get greenlights to shoot as much as they want to all the time--Luka gets it just about every game--and they don't end up scoring more than about 45 pts on a really good night. If Curry was getting double- or triple-teamed and still firing up shots, he could still make some or might have a few minutes where he's supernova and drilling everything, but mostly the defense would smother or bother him enough that it's pretty tough to imagine him getting to 100.

Kobe exemplifies that. He's one of the most ego-driven stars of all time and he had the ultimate green light (and motive to show how dominant he could be) in '06, and he only managed this 81 pts once, only cleared 50pts 9 other times that whole season. If he could've scored 80 or 100 at any point in that season, he damn sure would've and dame sure would've had the team support him in doing it. He was epically hot that night against the Raptors and his hot hand kept continuing, and he also had some of the best pure shot creation skills ever. Both of that together still only produced a one-time 81 pt game,

I agree that Wilt's was less impressive than many think but that's more so because it was too easy for him to create in that era (plus the intentional fouling). Wilt just created shots for himself with greater ease and spam-ability than other scorers. Wilt scored 61 the night before his 100pt game, and 58 the night after. Even adjusting for pace liberally, other players simply couldn't routinely create at that volume.
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