Jazz Have Trade Offers From Multiple Teams Beyond Knicks 'Worth Pursuing'

[puja21]

Ok Ainge, if that's the case please go ahead and pursue those trades and leave my Knicks alone with your garbage team gutting trade requests. I personally wouldn't make a trade with Ainge period. I think every GM should boycott this dude and get him out of the league. The timberwolves are idiots for that Gobert trade.

Ainge, we know you're full of crap just lower the asking price from the Knicks and stop trying to leverage non existent trade packages

Go pursue, Danny Ainge, you slimy creep!!!

having more teams to the table would foment a bidding war. we've seen no such thing occur.

HAHAHA Danny Ainge must think we're all stupid.

IF the Jazz had all these great offers from other teams, Donovan would have been traded by now. Nor would Ainge have to say they're "comfortable" keeping DM going into the season. No need to keep him if all these other teams are calling with offers that are equal to or better than the Knicks' offer.

Laughable

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As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

As usual, Ainge proves there is another desperate/foolish GM around the corner...

[Pickled Prunes]

having more teams to the table would foment a bidding war. we've seen no such thing occur.

So, your belief is that the Knicks are the only team interested in Mitchell? We know that can't be true. We also know that the Knicks don't have a lot to offer. Fournier and Obi plus picks is an offer that can be beat by just about any team that wants to jump in. And Utah shouldn't even want RJ, so throwing him in would be a negative. (He's overrated and is going to want to be overpaid.)

No, it's almost inconceivable that the Knicks would be the only team at the table.

As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all.

[NoStatsGuy]

So, your belief is that the Knicks are the only team interested in Mitchell? We know that can't be true. We also know that the Knicks don't have a lot to offer. Fournier and Obi plus picks is an offer that can be beat by just about any team that wants to jump in. And Utah shouldn't even want RJ, so throwing him in would be a negative. (He's overrated and is going to want to be overpaid.)

No, it's almost inconceivable that the Knicks would be the only team at the table.

As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all.

im glad they found someone else. the cavs offer is not bad at all. the knicks did not give in, exactly what i hoped for. the news dont make the above statement false tho. these news were most likely leaked to push the knicks offer!

[Pickled Prunes]

As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all.

im glad they found someone else. the cavs offer is not bad at all. the knicks did not give in, exactly what i hoped for. the news dont make the above statement false tho. these news were most likely leaked to push the knicks offer!

The news was literally "Jazz Have Trade Offers From Multiple Teams Beyond Knicks 'Worth Pursuing'" and nobody thought it was anything more than a ploy. Clearly the news was on point and the Cavs deal was actually better than the Knicks reported offer.

But I was just having fun. I know we can't always take these leaks at face value. I also don't see the fit next to Garland or Brunson. Both lineups were destined to be too small. If you're a Knicks fan you dodged a bullet!

[taikibansei]

So, your belief is that the Knicks are the only team interested in Mitchell? We know that can't be true. We also know that the Knicks don't have a lot to offer. Fournier and Obi plus picks is an offer that can be beat by just about any team that wants to jump in. And Utah shouldn't even want RJ, so throwing him in would be a negative. (He's overrated and is going to want to be overpaid.)

No, it's almost inconceivable that the Knicks would be the only team at the table.

As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all. 8-)

Danny's ask of the Knicks was 6+ frps--at least 3 unprotected--plus swaps, plus young players. I'll explain it more below, but I think we can both agree that such a package from the Knicks would have been far, far better than what the Cavs actually paid.

The Knicks actual offer was 5 frps--2 unprotected--plus expirings, plus young talent. Frankly, that's still better than what Danny got. First, due to the poor roster fit, even with Mitchell our record each year would have been in the 7-10 range; on the other hand, the Cavs (now with multiple all-stars and the ROY) are going to be competing each season for top-4 in the East...meaning that the Knicks' two unprotected picks would likely have been better than the Cavs frps.

But I'm not done: let's talk about the "protected" picks the Knicks were to include. Here are the picks that were in play:
--23 Dallas (top 10 protected in a deep draft; 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025)
--25 Bucks (top 4 protected)
--Wizards (top 14 in 2023, top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026)
--Detroit (top 18 in 2023-24, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026, top 9 in 2027)
I.e., all four of these "protected" frps likely convey, all with the potential for being in the mid- to late-lottery. Accordingly, none are "heavily" protected by any definition of the term. Indeed, given the strength of the Cavs' current roster, I'd argue that all but the Bucks will come in lower than the Cavs' unprotected picks.

Finally, let's talk about the young players Utah got. I'm going to focus on Sexton, as you mention him specifically. Sexton was a decent player before the season-ending injury. That said...he just came back from a season-long injury...was never really that good...and you've now signed to pay him $72,000,000 (more than the Cavs offered) over the next four years. Yeah, good luck with that.

Again, I think Danny did just fine with his "haul," but there was no "great victory" here (and the Knicks were right to walk away). Assuming the Cavs stay healthy, they didn't give a lot out.

[Pickled Prunes]

As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all. 8-)

Danny's ask of the Knicks was 6+ frps--at least 3 unprotected--plus swaps, plus young players. I'll explain it more below, but I think we can both agree that such a package from the Knicks would have been far, far better than what the Cavs actually paid.

The Knicks actual offer was 5 frps--2 unprotected--plus expirings, plus young talent. Frankly, that's still better than what Danny got. First, due to the poor roster fit, even with Mitchell our record each year would have been in the 7-10 range; on the other hand, the Cavs (now with multiple all-stars and the ROY) are going to be competing each season for top-4 in the East...meaning that the Knicks' two unprotected picks would likely have been better than the Cavs frps.

But I'm not done: let's talk about the "protected" picks the Knicks were to include. Here are the picks that were in play:
--23 Dallas (top 10 protected in a deep draft; 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025)
--25 Bucks (top 4 protected)
--Wizards (top 14 in 2023, top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026)
--Detroit (top 18 in 2023-24, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026, top 9 in 2027)
I.e., all four of these "protected" frps likely convey, all with the potential for being in the mid- to late-lottery. Accordingly, none are "heavily" protected by any definition of the term. Indeed, given the strength of the Cavs' current roster, I'd argue that all but the Bucks will come in lower than the Cavs' unprotected picks.

Finally, let's talk about the young players Utah got. I'm going to focus on Sexton, as you mention him specifically. Sexton was a decent player before the season-ending injury. That said...he just came back from a season-long injury...was never really that good...and you've now signed to pay him $72,000,000 (more than the Cavs offered) over the next four years. Yeah, good luck with that.

Again, I think Danny did just fine with his "haul," but there was no "great victory" here (and the Knicks were right to walk away). Assuming the Cavs stay healthy, they didn't give a lot out.

The WAS and DET picks could not be included as 1sts because they both become 2nds if they don't convey by a particular date. I don't think those were on the table. I believe it was the DAL and MIL picks plus three NYK (2 unprotected). Utah wanted the protections removed from the last NYK pick. Both the MIL and DAL picks are likely to be later than any of the CLE picks but the pick swaps are irrelevant because Utah will be bad.

I don't think I did mention Sexton in this thread and nowhere did I suggest he was good, so maybe you are responding to the wrong thread, but anyway...

Neither team was offering a single player worth building around. Utah will be tanking for 3-4 years and it's very unlikely that any of these players would be with the team when it was over. I wrote this on another thread but it is worth repeating:
Utah wants to lose as many games as possible and hopes to sell some tickets while they do it. Sexton is perfect for that exact role. And the Jazz need to get to the salary floor while they tank for the next three years or so and Sexton will be an expiring contract right about the time they get serious about rebuilding. An absolute perfect fit as tank commander.

[ForeverRDjazz]

As if fournier + obi and 2 frps would be the best package we could offer. You have no clue what you are talking about, my guy.

And this obviously is utah trying to get more from the knicks. Why would they announce 3 times in one week, that they have other offers to pursue? No need to announce it, if its true or act like they are content with keeping mitchell. No other team is willing to pay more than what the knicks offered. Thats why you get these kind of news.

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all. 8-)

Danny's ask of the Knicks was 6+ frps--at least 3 unprotected--plus swaps, plus young players. I'll explain it more below, but I think we can both agree that such a package from the Knicks would have been far, far better than what the Cavs actually paid.

The Knicks actual offer was 5 frps--2 unprotected--plus expirings, plus young talent. Frankly, that's still better than what Danny got. First, due to the poor roster fit, even with Mitchell our record each year would have been in the 7-10 range; on the other hand, the Cavs (now with multiple all-stars and the ROY) are going to be competing each season for top-4 in the East...meaning that the Knicks' two unprotected picks would likely have been better than the Cavs frps.

But I'm not done: let's talk about the "protected" picks the Knicks were to include. Here are the picks that were in play:
--23 Dallas (top 10 protected in a deep draft; 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025)
--25 Bucks (top 4 protected)
--Wizards (top 14 in 2023, top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026)
--Detroit (top 18 in 2023-24, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026, top 9 in 2027)
I.e., all four of these "protected" frps likely convey, all with the potential for being in the mid- to late-lottery. Accordingly, none are "heavily" protected by any definition of the term. Indeed, given the strength of the Cavs' current roster, I'd argue that all but the Bucks will come in lower than the Cavs' unprotected picks.

Finally, let's talk about the young players Utah got. I'm going to focus on Sexton, as you mention him specifically. Sexton was a decent player before the season-ending injury. That said...he just came back from a season-long injury...was never really that good...and you've now signed to pay him $72,000,000 (more than the Cavs offered) over the next four years. Yeah, good luck with that.

Again, I think Danny did just fine with his "haul," but there was no "great victory" here (and the Knicks were right to walk away). Assuming the Cavs stay healthy, they didn't give a lot out.

The Knicks always walk away and never land there guy. Keep acting like no trade was the best trade. Leon choked and should be fired. Knicks played stupid game and won stupid prize. Keep your high picks and stay boderline playoff team.

[ForeverRDjazz]

You guys were right... Utah was just trying to up the Knicks offer. No one else was interested in Mitchell. It was a one team bidding war. It's all fake newwwwwwwait a minute.

Just as I was writing this Mitchell was traded to the Cavs... that's not New York... That's not even New York adjacent. Maybe I was correct after all. 8-)

Danny's ask of the Knicks was 6+ frps--at least 3 unprotected--plus swaps, plus young players. I'll explain it more below, but I think we can both agree that such a package from the Knicks would have been far, far better than what the Cavs actually paid.

The Knicks actual offer was 5 frps--2 unprotected--plus expirings, plus young talent. Frankly, that's still better than what Danny got. First, due to the poor roster fit, even with Mitchell our record each year would have been in the 7-10 range; on the other hand, the Cavs (now with multiple all-stars and the ROY) are going to be competing each season for top-4 in the East...meaning that the Knicks' two unprotected picks would likely have been better than the Cavs frps.

But I'm not done: let's talk about the "protected" picks the Knicks were to include. Here are the picks that were in play:
--23 Dallas (top 10 protected in a deep draft; 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025)
--25 Bucks (top 4 protected)
--Wizards (top 14 in 2023, top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026)
--Detroit (top 18 in 2023-24, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026, top 9 in 2027)
I.e., all four of these "protected" frps likely convey, all with the potential for being in the mid- to late-lottery. Accordingly, none are "heavily" protected by any definition of the term. Indeed, given the strength of the Cavs' current roster, I'd argue that all but the Bucks will come in lower than the Cavs' unprotected picks.

Finally, let's talk about the young players Utah got. I'm going to focus on Sexton, as you mention him specifically. Sexton was a decent player before the season-ending injury. That said...he just came back from a season-long injury...was never really that good...and you've now signed to pay him $72,000,000 (more than the Cavs offered) over the next four years. Yeah, good luck with that.

Again, I think Danny did just fine with his "haul," but there was no "great victory" here (and the Knicks were right to walk away). Assuming the Cavs stay healthy, they didn't give a lot out.

The WAS and DET picks could not be included as 1sts because they both become 2nds if they don't convey by a particular date. I don't think those were on the table. I believe it was the DAL and MIL picks plus three NYK (2 unprotected). Utah wanted the protections removed from the last NYK pick. Both the MIL and DAL picks are likely to be later than any of the CLE picks but the pick swaps are irrelevant because Utah will be bad.

I don't think I did mention Sexton in this thread and nowhere did I suggest he was good, so maybe you are responding to the wrong thread, but anyway...

Neither team was offering a single player worth building around. Utah will be tanking for 3-4 years and it's very unlikely that any of these players would be with the team when it was over. I wrote this on another thread but it is worth repeating:
Utah wants to lose as many games as possible and hopes to sell some tickets while they do it. Sexton is perfect for that exact role. And the Jazz need to get to the salary floor while they tank for the next three years or so and Sexton will be an expiring contract right about the time they get serious about rebuilding. An absolute perfect fit as tank commander.

Funny thing is Utah will win more games than the knicks next year and we're trying to tank. Knicks will always suck and go no where. Great job Leon.

[taikibansei]

Funny thing is Utah will win more games than the knicks next year

Want to do a sig bet?

[ForeverRDjazz]

Funny thing is Utah will win more games than the knicks next year

Want to do a sig bet?

LOL is jazz do you better fire Leon and coach and sell the team. First top player wants to play there and Knicks couldn't get the deal done. Leon offered 2 FRP and bad contracts. Danny did everything possible to get Mitchell back home and Leon wouldn't let it happen. Sad day for the wise Knicks fans. Mitchell would've been awesome.

[taikibansei]

Funny thing is Utah will win more games than the knicks next year

Want to do a sig bet?

LOL is jazz do you better fire Leon and coach and sell the team. First top player wants to play there and Knicks couldn't get the deal done. Leon offered 2 FRP and bad contracts. Danny did everything possible to get Mitchell back home and Leon wouldn't let it happen. Sad day for the wise Knicks fans. Mitchell would've been awesome.

Is that a yes on the bet?

Also, no offense, but I never wanted Mitchell--especially at that price. There are many, many posts of mine out there explaining why. IMO, the Knicks have dodged a bullet.

[ForeverRDjazz]

Want to do a sig bet?

LOL is jazz do you better fire Leon and coach and sell the team. First top player wants to play there and Knicks couldn't get the deal done. Leon offered 2 FRP and bad contracts. Danny did everything possible to get Mitchell back home and Leon wouldn't let it happen. Sad day for the wise Knicks fans. Mitchell would've been awesome.

Is that a yes on the bet?

Also, no offense, but I never wanted Mitchell--especially at that price. There are many, many posts of mine out there explaining why. IMO, the Knicks have dodged a bullet.

Sig? I don't think so. Plus I've watched every game Mitchell has played in Utah and the kid is amazing. knicks blew it. Fans or not Mitchell fans would've fell in love with him real quick. When Gordon H left Utah Mitchell filled his shoes and then some day one.

[NoStatsGuy]

The Knicks always walk away and never land there guy. Keep acting like no trade was the best trade. Leon choked and should be fired. Knicks played stupid game and won stupid prize. Keep your high picks and stay boderline playoff team.

if that trade wouldve went down you are the same guy that comes in here and says "knicks always overpay for quickfix"

either or people will shittalk the knicks.

perfectly handled by our frontoffice, im proud!

[ForeverRDjazz]

The Knicks always walk away and never land there guy. Keep acting like no trade was the best trade. Leon choked and should be fired. Knicks played stupid game and won stupid prize. Keep your high picks and stay boderline playoff team.

if that trade wouldve went down you are the same guy that comes in here and says "knicks always overpay for quickfix"

either or people will shittalk the knicks.

perfectly handled by our frontoffice, im proud!

If that makes you feel better about not landing DM congrats on the win.

[Pickled Prunes]

Danny's ask of the Knicks was 6+ frps--at least 3 unprotected--plus swaps, plus young players. I'll explain it more below, but I think we can both agree that such a package from the Knicks would have been far, far better than what the Cavs actually paid.

The Knicks actual offer was 5 frps--2 unprotected--plus expirings, plus young talent. Frankly, that's still better than what Danny got. First, due to the poor roster fit, even with Mitchell our record each year would have been in the 7-10 range; on the other hand, the Cavs (now with multiple all-stars and the ROY) are going to be competing each season for top-4 in the East...meaning that the Knicks' two unprotected picks would likely have been better than the Cavs frps.

But I'm not done: let's talk about the "protected" picks the Knicks were to include. Here are the picks that were in play:
--23 Dallas (top 10 protected in a deep draft; 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025)
--25 Bucks (top 4 protected)
--Wizards (top 14 in 2023, top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026)
--Detroit (top 18 in 2023-24, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026, top 9 in 2027)
I.e., all four of these "protected" frps likely convey, all with the potential for being in the mid- to late-lottery. Accordingly, none are "heavily" protected by any definition of the term. Indeed, given the strength of the Cavs' current roster, I'd argue that all but the Bucks will come in lower than the Cavs' unprotected picks.

Finally, let's talk about the young players Utah got. I'm going to focus on Sexton, as you mention him specifically. Sexton was a decent player before the season-ending injury. That said...he just came back from a season-long injury...was never really that good...and you've now signed to pay him $72,000,000 (more than the Cavs offered) over the next four years. Yeah, good luck with that.

Again, I think Danny did just fine with his "haul," but there was no "great victory" here (and the Knicks were right to walk away). Assuming the Cavs stay healthy, they didn't give a lot out.

The WAS and DET picks could not be included as 1sts because they both become 2nds if they don't convey by a particular date. I don't think those were on the table. I believe it was the DAL and MIL picks plus three NYK (2 unprotected). Utah wanted the protections removed from the last NYK pick. Both the MIL and DAL picks are likely to be later than any of the CLE picks but the pick swaps are irrelevant because Utah will be bad.

I don't think I did mention Sexton in this thread and nowhere did I suggest he was good, so maybe you are responding to the wrong thread, but anyway...

Neither team was offering a single player worth building around. Utah will be tanking for 3-4 years and it's very unlikely that any of these players would be with the team when it was over. I wrote this on another thread but it is worth repeating:
Utah wants to lose as many games as possible and hopes to sell some tickets while they do it. Sexton is perfect for that exact role. And the Jazz need to get to the salary floor while they tank for the next three years or so and Sexton will be an expiring contract right about the time they get serious about rebuilding. An absolute perfect fit as tank commander.

Funny thing is Utah will win more games than the knicks next year and we're trying to tank. Knicks will always suck and go no where. Great job Leon.

I don't know about that, but I like your spirit. The Jazz want to lose and the Knicks are Easily better than they were... I mean play-in better, not actually good. If the Jazz make the play-in I'll eat my Air Force 1's.