Who is the worst owner of the NBA?

[matt6715]

No Tillman Fertitta? Cmon

[Kurt Heimlich]

Dolan for sure. Vivek is probably just as incompetent but the Knicks being so bad for so long in the biggest market in the country is shockingly pathetic.

[Stannis]

I have to go with James Dolan as worst NBA owner.

He's actually not a bad NHL owner (NY Rangers) because he takes a very hands off approach.

But for the Knicks, he intervenes a lot and has made many bad decisions that has effected the teams overall W-L. His stretch of President and GMs hires have been awful.

It's this exact reason why I don't view Dolan as the worst.

Putting it simply, if Dolan actually found competent people to run the Knicks, he might have a hands off approach there too.

He's proven to have success in a sports team.

Dolan is bad, but for the reason below and above, he's not the worst.

The real answer to this is Vivek imo.

Yes, Sacramento is not NY, but when you actively try to make the playoffs over and over and fail for over a decade, it speaks to how bad it is.

The Kings can't even make the playin, they are basically Rob Babcock bad when he was running the Raptors.

The Kings being on the Knicks level is honestly a step up for them.

Yes, but the thread title was worst "NBA owner" not worst sports owner. And Dolan was the one who hired his basketball minds. Isiah Thomas, Steve Mills, and now Leon Rose who is TBD.

Donnie Walsh wasn't bad, but Dolan decided to intervene during the Melo sweepstakes. Glenn Grunwald was ok too but was basically let go where Steve Mills' team stepped in and traded a first round pick for Andrew Barganani lol.

[Darth Celtic]

This is clearly Dolan. That team has no chance to be anything more than pretenders in the late playoff seeds until he is gone. They had one year where they won 54 games, but had zero chance. He sells, they can rest

[Texas Chuck]

I'm not saying she's the worst, but Buss absolutely belongs in the conversation and some of the reactions to her inclusion were embarrassing.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Trigger? There's a difference between something that unreasonably sets off someone that usually will not for a mentally/emotionally stable person, and, something that is just mentioned to garner or fish out opposing opinions on it, to slight the person.

Two persons having an argument with two polarized, opposing opinions is nothing triggering in there... to mention it and accuse the other of it is just a cop out , especially when you insincerely gift-wrap it in an apology. It's a thoughless and manipulative ploy when you don't want to admit you may have a wrong opinion. See it occasionally done at the office. Not very cool and sort of a weak move.

I apologize if my post sounded manipulative to you, my intention was to be transparently sarcastic and dismissive to a post that was unnecessarily fired up about all this.
You think that Jeannie is a good owner? Fine, whatever.
You're somehow outraged that he's included in that list after the dumpster fire the Lakers have have been with Pelinka, Magic, the Rambleys, Klutch... come on. The Lakers got gifted LeBron and Davis for no real merit of the organization, and they messed up literally every other move.
My prediction isq tht the Lakers will be the new Knicks, if something doesn't change at the top.
The brand won't save them forever.

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[mhd]

Dolan for sure. Vivek is probably just as incompetent but the Knicks being so bad for so long in the biggest market in the country is shockingly pathetic.

I would take Vivek 1000X over Leonsis. I think Vivek's heart is in the right place. He's been stuck in the west, but I like their new regime and Murray (unfairly maligned) will help them big time.

The Wizards will NEVER win with Leonsis. With an inept organization that has signed one FA of consequence in its entire history and an edict of NEVER tanking (thereby always getting middling/meh prospects like Johnny Davis), the team is stuck in no man's land.

[dc]

Full disclosure I voted for Leonsis. The Wizards are moribund for no damn reason. Guy just doesn't care.

As an outside observer, he "cares" but in a different way. He seems to value loyalty and "family" more than anything else, thus giving Beal all that money PLUS the NTC. With the ridiculous amounts of picks being involved in all-stars being traded ever since Paul George in 2019, I'd imagine Beal would've fetched alot. Most any other franchise would've moved on from Beal years ago, gotten value for him in a trade and rebuilt.

But he'd rather be loyal to one guy, even if it means he's stuck where he is as far as results go. I can respect the guy for being honest about it. I'm just glad he doesn't own my team.

[Vampirate]

I have to go with James Dolan as worst NBA owner.

He's actually not a bad NHL owner (NY Rangers) because he takes a very hands off approach.

But for the Knicks, he intervenes a lot and has made many bad decisions that has effected the teams overall W-L. His stretch of President and GMs hires have been awful.

It's this exact reason why I don't view Dolan as the worst.

Putting it simply, if Dolan actually found competent people to run the Knicks, he might have a hands off approach there too.

He's proven to have success in a sports team.

Dolan is bad, but for the reason below and above, he's not the worst.

The real answer to this is Vivek imo.

Yes, Sacramento is not NY, but when you actively try to make the playoffs over and over and fail for over a decade, it speaks to how bad it is.

The Kings can't even make the playin, they are basically Rob Babcock bad when he was running the Raptors.

The Kings being on the Knicks level is honestly a step up for them.

Yes, but the thread title was worst "NBA owner" not worst sports owner. And Dolan was the one who hired his basketball minds. Isiah Thomas, Steve Mills, and now Leon Rose who is TBD.

Donnie Walsh wasn't bad, but Dolan decided to intervene during the Melo sweepstakes. Glenn Grunwald was ok too but was basically let go where Steve Mills' team stepped in and traded a first round pick for Andrew Barganani lol.

I'll summarize this better.

Because of Dolan's track record with the Rangers, I have more faith in the Knicks turning it around than with the Kings turning it around with Vivek.

[dc]

I'll summarize this better.

Because of Dolan's track record with the Rangers, I have more faith in the Knicks turning it around than with the Kings turning it around with Vivek.

Weird thing is Vivek intervened when he shouldn't have (what about Stauskas, firing Mike Malone) and then didn't intervene when he should have (he liked Luka, lol).

[Michael Jordan]

Knicks and Kings easily IMO. They've accomplished next to nothing in the last 10 years.

Lakers won a ring in 2020 so not sure how they can be up there as the "worst".

[The Rebel]

I voted Vivek, and think he is terrible but the Wizards fans have convinced me that Sarver or Leonsis are worse. Both obviously are in it for the money, as long as they sale enough tickets and jerseys that is all they care about. Neither cares about being a contender, and it sucks as fans when your owner is that way.

Sarver has been pretty despicable since he took over, but the fact is his team has reached the Finals and at least had a great regular season last year.

Vivek hasn't gotten 40 wins yet and hasn't come close to making the playoffs. Leonsis (with a much longer tenure than VIvek) has never gotten 50, but he does have 3 1st round wins.

This is not the 1st time Sarver has had a contender, the last time he ended up paying to dump picks and end of the rotation guys, got cheap re-signing guys, and basically destroyed the team. Spending half the offseason trying to avoid paying Ayton and making him go get a max offer elsewhere isn't a good sign that Sarver has changed in the least bit. We shall see going forward, but owners willing to destroy contenders for money are worse than owners that want to win and will pay for it, but cannot figure out how like Vivek.

[Capn'O]

We're #1!!!! We're #1!!!!

jordon

But I And1'd you for this express purpose. So ballhoggedy.

[Capn'O]

If you wanted a thread to **** on Jeannie Buss, just do that. Why the elaborate charade?

Here's a few your list is missing:

1. An owner who presided over a decade long sexual harassment scandal in his franchise in Dallas.
2. An owner who's openly been trying his best to sell the team in Minnesota only to find a deal that appears to not be complete because he failed to do due diligence to make sure the buyer had funds.
3. An owner in New Orleans who is alleged to have stolen the team away from rightful heirs.
4. An owner who named his arena after a pyramid scheme in Orlando.
5. An owner who bought and relocated a team from Seattle because the city won't build him an arena.

But hey.. Jeannie Buss!

Move over pal. She ain't even close to winning this poll. This is our thread.

We're #1!!!!

[Capn'O]

People keep saying Dolan here, I get he's an idiot but hasn't the Knicks story just been mostly about FO's having impatience and also not finding the right luck? They've had a ton of GMs in Dolan's time and they keep failing for different reasons that focus on those two things, try to win too quickly then get crap luck at rebuilding and then repeat since they think there's a fast-forward button to make up for that.

Feels like those aren't stemming form Dolan so much as he's not able to stop them, which seems way less direct and way more passive a role than some of these other owners.

It's entirely on Dolan. He always hires based on who can sell him on a quick turnaround plan and never seeks out seasoned executives with a track record of success who bring forth a longer vision. The faults you cite in the GMs under him are abiding by his precise hiring criteria and he does it over and over again, sometimes rehiring the same people who **** things up to begin with. It's why I fear what would happen if he has a knee jerk reaction to missing out on Mitchell. The unseasoned guys he hires need a little longer to settle in. If they're constantly fearing his hand coming down it increases the likelihood they do something stupid. Then, because they screw up so badly in a panic, he fires and hires another green fool and the process starts over.

[Capn'O]

I think Ted does not get enough ridicule. No Conference Finals appearances since forever, content with fielding a mediocre team, that horrid extension for Beal.

Ernie Grunfeld at one point in time was one of the longest tenured GM's in the league, despite horrendous moves like trading the #5 overall pick in the 2009 (Steph Curry would have been available at that slot) for Randy Foye, trading Kelly Oubre Jr. at the peak of his value for a washed-up Trevor Ariza to chase the 8th seed. Leonisis willingly let Grunfeld hold onto his job, for some reason.

Knicks fans would give our left testicle for the days of Ernie Grunfeld. Those were our golden years. Our last competent, long tenured GM before the Dolan era. Your worst was our best.

We're #1!!!! We're #1!!!!

[jokeboy86]

I think Ted does not get enough ridicule. No Conference Finals appearances since forever, content with fielding a mediocre team, that horrid extension for Beal.

Ernie Grunfeld at one point in time was one of the longest tenured GM's in the league, despite horrendous moves like trading the #5 overall pick in the 2009 (Steph Curry would have been available at that slot) for Randy Foye, trading Kelly Oubre Jr. at the peak of his value for a washed-up Trevor Ariza to chase the 8th seed. Leonisis willingly let Grunfeld hold onto his job, for some reason.

Exactly. Keeping Randy Whitman as coach who has not sniffed a job since, then hiring Scott Brooks...........the tragedy continues in DC

Funny thing is Leonsis isn't even the worst owner in his own city lol

[Quattro]

If you wanted a thread to **** on Jeannie Buss, just do that. Why the elaborate charade?

Here's a few your list is missing:

1. An owner who presided over a decade long sexual harassment scandal in his franchise in Dallas.
2. An owner who's openly been trying his best to sell the team in Minnesota only to find a deal that appears to not be complete because he failed to do due diligence to make sure the buyer had funds.
3. An owner in New Orleans who is alleged to have stolen the team away from rightful heirs.
4. An owner who named his arena after a pyramid scheme in Orlando.
5. An owner who bought and relocated a team from Seattle because the city won't build him an arena.

But hey.. Jeannie Buss!

Move over pal. She ain't even close to winning this poll. This is our thread.

We're #1!!!!

I’m with you. Dolan is the “MJ” of bad owners

[Bob Ross]

It's gotta be Dolan.

His only attributes is that money isn't a question and he seems to have actually stopped meddling.

Statistically he has to be the worst. He's also a sh*t person

[Stannis]

I'll summarize this better.

Because of Dolan's track record with the Rangers, I have more faith in the Knicks turning it around than with the Kings turning it around with Vivek.

Ah gotcha. Makes sense.

Sadly, I think the issue is Dolan thinks he knows basketball hence him always intervening and meddling. With the Rangers, he has a history of letting the front office run their course for multiple years. I guess he just finds hockey boring or doesn't know much about it lol.