Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

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Who will win 2022 Eurobasket?

Serbia
62
21%
France
41
14%
Spain
10
3%
Lithuania
12
4%
Greece
53
18%
Slovenia
74
25%
Croatia
5
2%
Turkey
12
4%
Montenegro
1
0%
other
25
8%
 
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Post#1441 » by stitches » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:32 pm

What a great game. A bit of an anticlimactic finish, but some great play on both ends. Classic Luka game. Great effort and smarts by Dragic. Amazing performance by Gobert. France's guards needed to be better in the clutch.
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Post#1442 » by Cubbies2120 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:34 pm

Dirk wrote:
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siFy wrote:Galis with 45 and 46. Now Luka


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroBasket_Records#Most_points_scored_in_a_single_game

Highest was Eddy Terrace in 1957 with 63 points.


Jokic is slacking. I cant see him on that 41+ point list.


They just gotta extend the list to include him, like they did for Giannis :lol:

The table is "Top 13", who does that? Even in the reference table it shows "Top 10", but that would exclude a big name so they made it a weird number to include him
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Post#1443 » by CharityStripe34 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:36 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:I don't think I can remember a better EuroBasket than this, and I've been watching it since 87.

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Watch now the knockout stage be a bust, with blowouts. :lol:
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Post#1444 » by a-French-Fan » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:38 pm

Sunlight wrote:Better intensity than many nba postseason games. Euroleague is underrated.


This was not Euroleague !!!

But you are true seen discussion about Luka's draft thread :)
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Post#1445 » by Mavrelous » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:40 pm

Archx wrote:Slovenia 92 points, Doncic 47. What an absolute crazy carry job this was. I'm glad we at least have G.Dragic aswell. He did amazing at the end with his defense and fastbreaks.

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Post#1447 » by Archx » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:43 pm

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Archx wrote:Slovenia 92 points, Doncic 47. What an absolute crazy carry job this was. I'm glad we at least have G.Dragic aswell. He did amazing at the end with his defense and fastbreaks.

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You're correct, i'll fix my post :D Dunno why official site first had 92 points on lol...
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Post#1448 » by LuDux1 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:45 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroBasket_Records#Most_points_scored_in_a_single_game

Highest was Eddy Terrace in 1957 with 63 points.


Jokic is slacking. I cant see him on that 41+ point list.


They just gotta extend the list to include him, like they did for Giannis :lol:

The table is "Top 13", who does that? Even in the reference table it shows "Top 10", but that would exclude a big name so they made it a weird number to include him


it's based on FIBA table which has top-12 players, maybe because teams have 12 players
http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/keyfigures/p/tid//tid2//lid_38179_ct/2/cid/EMSM/rc/MPSG/_//index.html
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Post#1449 » by CharityStripe34 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:47 pm

Yeah, but Eddy Terrace was playing against bakers and masons...
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Post#1450 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:50 pm

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Pachinko_ wrote:I don't think I can remember a better EuroBasket than this, and I've been watching it since 87.

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Watch now the knockout stage be a bust, with blowouts.
No way. And don't get me started because my theory is that blowouts happen because 7 games are too many for both teams to stay at their best performance throughout. And eventually they stop fighting when a game starts to look out of reach, especially knowing there are plenty more games.

My ideal format for elimination games is two games, one home one away, and point differential settles the tie. That's all you need, both games are cut throat because every point matters.

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Post#1451 » by Nuntius » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:54 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroBasket_Records#Most_points_scored_in_a_single_game

Highest was Eddy Terrace in 1957 with 63 points.


Jokic is slacking. I cant see him on that 41+ point list.


They just gotta extend the list to include him, like they did for Giannis :lol:

The table is "Top 13", who does that? Even in the reference table it shows "Top 10", but that would exclude a big name so they made it a weird number to include him


Out of the 4 tables that are present in that page, only one of them is an actual top 10. The others are top 11.

And it's not just Giannis who would be missing if the table didn't extend to 13. Sasha Djordjevic would also be missing and his 41-point performance was much more important and remembered since it came in a Finals game.
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Post#1452 » by Cubbies2120 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 5:57 pm

Nuntius wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
Jokic is slacking. I cant see him on that 41+ point list.


They just gotta extend the list to include him, like they did for Giannis :lol:

The table is "Top 13", who does that? Even in the reference table it shows "Top 10", but that would exclude a big name so they made it a weird number to include him


Out of the 4 tables that are present in that page, only one of them is an actual top 10. The others are top 11.

And it's not just Giannis who would be missing if the table didn't extend to 13. Sasha Djordjevic would also be missing and his 41-point performance was much more important and remembered since it came in a Finals game.


It's such an odd way to do it though - doing "Includes 40+ point games only" would make more sense than a "Top 13"
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Post#1453 » by Nuntius » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:08 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
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They just gotta extend the list to include him, like they did for Giannis :lol:

The table is "Top 13", who does that? Even in the reference table it shows "Top 10", but that would exclude a big name so they made it a weird number to include him


Out of the 4 tables that are present in that page, only one of them is an actual top 10. The others are top 11.

And it's not just Giannis who would be missing if the table didn't extend to 13. Sasha Djordjevic would also be missing and his 41-point performance was much more important and remembered since it came in a Finals game.


It's such an odd way to do it though - doing "Includes 40+ point games only" would make more sense than a "Top 13"


I agree. But tables like that are always arbitrary. The two tables that are top 11 are a top 11 instead of a top 10 due to ties.

In the first table, Stanislav Kropilak and Panagiotis Giannakis both scored 769 in their EuroBasket appearances and it wouldn't make sense to include only one of the two and exclude the other just to have a top 10. That would be even more arbitrary.

In the second table, there is a three-way tie between Ido Kozikaro, Zaza Pachulia and Tony Parker in total games played. Both of them played 79 games and only including 2 of the three would once again be wildly arbitrary.

PS: Between your post and my current reply, the title of that table has changed. It no longer says "Top 13". It now says "List of players who have scored more than 40 points in a single game". So, someone is watching our discussion :lol:
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Post#1454 » by LuDux1 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:13 pm

Nevermind, official table has 12 players because #10 is shared by 3 players

Top 5 scoring performances between European teams in Eurobasket Olympic Games and World championships in 3-point era
Petar NAUMOSKI (MKD) 49 vs Poland in 1999 WC
Drazen PETROVIC (YUG) 47 vs Netherlands in 1986 WC
Luka DONCIC (SLO) 47 vs France in 2022 EB
Doron JAMCHY (ISR) 44 vs Romania in 1987 EB
Nenad MARKOVIC ZORIC (BIH) 44 vs Latvia in 1997 EB
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Post#1455 » by Nuntius » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:19 pm

By the way, in that EuroBasket Records page you can see the score of the game next to the points scored by the player. At #11, you find Ladislav Demšar's 42 point game against Albania. The final result of that game was 90-13. Yes, only 13 points scored by Albania. It was back in 1947 so the game is practically ancient but still. I went and checked what happened in that 1947 EuroBasket and I found some even weirder scores.

Austria participated in that 1947 EuroBasket and they scored 19 total points throughout 2 games. Yes, 19 points in total. They lost 56-13 to Bulgaria and 100-6 to France. Yes, 100 to 6. That was the final score of that game. 100-6. And that's not all.

In another group, Albania performed similarly poorly. Other than their 90-13 loss to Demšar's Serbia, they also lost 60-15 to Italy and 104-19 to Egypt. Albania played 6 total games in that tournament and they only managed to score more than 20 points once, in a 27-44 loss to Austria (yes, the aforementioned Austria that lost 100-6 to France).

And, yes, Egypt participated in that EuroBasket and they even won 3rd place (they hosted the EuroBasket two years later, in 1949, and they won the title, they had a pretty damn good team).

This post is pretty random, of course, but I'm a fan of such trivia :lol:
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Post#1456 » by UcanUwill » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:20 pm

CharityStripe34 wrote:Yeah, but Eddy Terrace was playing against bakers and masons...

I heard he was fireman himself...
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Post#1457 » by Bob8 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:24 pm

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CharityStripe34 wrote:Yeah, but Eddy Terrace was playing against bakers and masons...

I heard he was fireman himself...


And we had to understand against who Doncic did it. Against France with top D. Giannis scored 41 against Ukraine. Not exactly the same thing.
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Post#1458 » by CharityStripe34 » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:28 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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CharityStripe34 wrote:Yeah, but Eddy Terrace was playing against bakers and masons...

I heard he was fireman himself...


And we had to understand against who Doncic did it. Against France with top D. Giannis scored 41 against Ukraine. Not exactly the same thing.


Luka was annoyed that Gianni got 41 so he topped it. :)
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Post#1459 » by mabundo_nagumbe » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:28 pm

LuDux1 wrote:Nevermind, official table has 12 players because #10 is shared by 3 players

Top 5 scoring performances between European teams in Eurobasket Olympic Games and World championships in 3-point era
Petar NAUMOSKI (MKD) 49 vs Poland in 1999 WC
Drazen PETROVIC (YUG) 47 vs Netherlands in 1986 WC
Luka DONCIC (SLO) 47 vs France in 2022 EB
Doron JAMCHY (ISR) 44 vs Romania in 1987 EB
Nenad MARKOVIC ZORIC (BIH) 44 vs Latvia in 1997 EB


Wrong, if you also count Olympics, Doncic also has a 48pt game from last year
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Post#1460 » by Nuntius » Wed Sep 7, 2022 6:31 pm

mabundo_nagumbe wrote:
LuDux1 wrote:Nevermind, official table has 12 players because #10 is shared by 3 players

Top 5 scoring performances between European teams in Eurobasket Olympic Games and World championships in 3-point era
Petar NAUMOSKI (MKD) 49 vs Poland in 1999 WC
Drazen PETROVIC (YUG) 47 vs Netherlands in 1986 WC
Luka DONCIC (SLO) 47 vs France in 2022 EB
Doron JAMCHY (ISR) 44 vs Romania in 1987 EB
Nenad MARKOVIC ZORIC (BIH) 44 vs Latvia in 1997 EB


Wrong, if you also count Olympics, Doncic also has a 48pt game from last year


He's talking about scoring performances between European teams. Which means that both teams in that game have to be European to be included in that list. And Luka's 48 point game was against Argentina which isn't a European team.

Now, you can definitely say that the parameters set by LuDux1 here were arbitrary and I would agree but, hey, it's their post so they are the ones setting the parameters :lol:
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