Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #24 - 2016-17 Kevin Durant

[OhayoKD]

who knows what happens if harden got like 12 cracks at mvp teammates.

Diminishing returns, from what I have seen. But yes, Harden probably wins two titles on the Warriors too. Maybe three if we really hammer Durant on random injuries.

If i was going to hammer durant for 2019, it would probably be that he, curry, klay, and dray were not noticeably better than the 2019 rockets(with cp3 no longer a superstar and the team outside of harden diminishing greatly) while he was on the court.

KD theoretically should get a signifcant fit advantage, but 2018 and 2019 seem to call into question how well the theory works in practice. And from what warrior fans argue, their may be mental/chemisty issues with durant that might counter that anyway.

[OhayoKD]

I mean I literally just went over how Paul/Griffin in their best year also managed to be a monumental offence, and Griffin is not really factoring into this project (although he is good). Shaq/Penny were a +10 offence when healthy. Frazier is not offering the same on offence, but he was the co-leader of an 8-SRS championship team, and it is tough for me to see him averaging 45% efficiency while also getting torched by the opposing guard.

If your point is that Westbrook’s approach worked fine in the regular season, sure. I care that it became a lot uglier in the postseason. Some might take the stance that, well, the Thunder’s postseason opposition was ludicrous. Reasonable claim, but the people we are talking about faced Jordan’s Bulls and the Wilt/West Lakers, so I think pointing out the postseason limitations remains fair play. Not going to condemn anyone for voting Westbrook — I kind-of appreciate the one Westbrook ballot so far in its overall approach — but there is no justification to say the case for other players is not worth hearing.

why can't we just scale 17 westbrook off the team results in 2016? What about the 5 game 17 playoff sample indicates westbrook was worse in the postseason in this year as opposed to the last?