What would you give up for Trae?

[Johnny Bball]

He is talented and gifted offensively, and I love that he plays the villain so damn well, but literally one of the worst defenders in the league. I wouldn't take him based on his contract, if I can't trade him ever and he's not an asset. The cap space is too valuable and I would be building a different way.

Toronto would not take him (based on the imagined limitations) and it would not improve them. One weak link can kill a defence, and you can't hide guys like you used to be able to with the way defences are evolving. His cap space would also eat up both FVV and GTJ's pay taking both of them out creating another hole, so nah.

[kg01]

Hawks fans think its a troll thread if the trade offers don't include top 10 players.......

Lies detected.

[Cubbies2120]

Hawks fans think its a troll thread if the trade offers don't include top 10 players.......

Lies detected.

Who are 10 players right now that you'd be willing to accept in a trade for Mr. 32%?

[Time for Change]

Why bother with the no trade stipulation? It just distorts the value.

[zeebneeb]

This is actually an interesting thread if you stop, and really think about it.

Trae is actually uber talented, and plays hard. Those two things are usually more then enough to build around, but, his size, and defense are such huge negatives, it outweighs his production.

Being a Pistons fan, and seeing how Weaver has built the team with size, and strength, I can't imagine trading for him, as he wouldn't fit on the team that's been built thus far. Now I say that knowing we haven't seen Ivey play next to Cade yet, but Ivey is 6'4, 200lbs, and is lightning fast, with a huge wingspan. (6'9).

The Pistons absolutely killed the Hawks last year when Cade played, and they just matchup hunted Trae, in both games. Young couldn't gaurd Corey Joseph so I can't imagine how he would gaurd Ivey, who is even bigger, faster, and stronger.

Pistons pass. Not because of Youngs talent, or passion, but soley because of his size, and defense. Now if the Pistons didn't have Cade, or Ivey, this would be a different answer, but as it stands, nope.

I'm actually interested to see what teams would trade for him, and what the haul would be.

[raleigh]

Hawks fans think its a troll thread if...

We know it's a troll thread if it's a post that should be in the comparison or trade boards but the mods just stare at it until some a**hole like me has to come along and remind them of their own rules.

If you think it's a troll thread then use the report button. You aren't reminding any mods of anything by backseat moderating in a thread that we might or might not come across organically. Using the report button is appreciated by moderators. These kinds of posts are not.
-ccs

[kg01]

Hawks fans think its a troll thread if the trade offers don't include top 10 players.......

Lies detected.

Who are 10 players right now that you'd be willing to accept in a trade for Mr. 32%?

It would take all 10 of them, not just one. And even then I'd say no.

[rzzzzz]

Let’s just leave Trae in Atlanta. He’s worth more to them right now than I can imagine anyone else parting with.

[OrangeBlueSkies]

id give up westbrook, Austin Reeves and three 1st & 2 swaps

You don’t have three firsts to give up , genius.

[Ball4life32]

Sorry, but no way the Raptors trade for Trae. He doesn't fit what they're doing at all, and it's not just a size thing. If you're not efficient on O and more importantly - you don't play D - they don't want you, especially with a cap killing type contract.

The team swore off compensating for one-way fake stars when they traded away Demar.

Huh? Trae last 3 years:

.595 TS%
.589 TS%
.603 TS%

This is absolutely elite efficiency or close for his counting stats. Much better that Demar when he was in Toronto. Strange comparison.

He is talented and gifted offensively, and I love that he plays the villain so damn well, but literally one of the worst defenders in the league. I wouldn't take him based on his contract, if I can't trade him ever and he's not an asset. The cap space is too valuable and I would be building a different way.

Toronto would not take him (based on the imagined limitations) and it would not improve them. One weak link can kill a defence, and you can't hide guys like you used to be able to with the way defences are evolving. His cap space would also eat up both FVV and GTJ's pay taking both of them out creating another hole, so nah.

You’re saying the guy that lead the nba in points and assists at 23 yrs old (a year after leading the hawks to ECF at 22) isn’t an asset? Huh? And Toronto with Trae would be better…..hawks had the #13 defense in the 2nd half of the season despite starting Trae, Huerter and Gallo who are negative defensively.

[tbhawksfan1]

id give up westbrook, Austin Reeves and three 1st & 2 swaps

You don’t have three firsts to give up , genius.

Bad thrdead but your post just made it worth my time LOOOOL

[_qubik]

He is worth more than Mitchel and Gobert, he will lead your team to nowhere, like Mitchel and Gobert

[Ball4life32]

He is worth more than Mitchel and Gobert, he will lead your team to nowhere, like Mitchel and Gobert

He already led the hawks to two games away from finals at 22 years old with no all stars on team but sure.

Cavs have no need for Trae. They wouldn’t give up anything to get him.

Garland will end up being a more valuable player anyways imo

I like Garland but I will be suprised considering Trae has been significantly better than Garland comparing their first 3 years.

[oldncreaky]

Trae is a small guard who is offensively brilliant but "defensively challenged". What team has ever won a championship with such a player as their best player?

No one in the modern era. Closest was probably Tiny Archibald and the '81 Celtics, but they also had Larry Bird and a deep front line.

So who could afford to take Trae as their 2nd/3rd best player? In a league with a progressively punishing salary cap?

Gotta be a franchise that is willing to spend tons of money, has a bunch of defenders, and is frustrated at not getting over the hump. Clippers? Philly?

I think Atlanta and it's fans should get used to the idea that the Haws will be highly entertaining and will win a lot of regular season games, but are not really contenders anytime soon.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Trae is easily the better offensive player but I think I go Mitchell over Trae if I’m trying to win it all. Mitchell is physically capable of playing defence but Trae is a gnat.

[Ball4life32]

Trae is a small guard who is offensively brilliant but "defensively challenged". What team has ever won a championship with such a player as their best player?

No one in the modern era. Closest was probably Tiny Archibald and the '81 Celtics, but they also had Larry Bird and a deep front line.

So who could afford to take Trae as their 2nd/3rd best player? In a league with a progressively punishing salary cap?

Gotta be a franchise that is willing to spend tons of money, has a bunch of defenders, and is frustrated at not getting over the hump. Clippers? Philly?

I think Atlanta and it's fans should get used to the idea that the Haws will be highly entertaining and will win a lot of regular season games, but are not really contenders anytime soon.

Archibald averaged 18.8 ppg / 7.4 apg on .543 TS% for his career. He had some great years but check the mpg…dude was playing 40+ mpg in some of these seasons. Not really like Trae at all and Trae was much more efficient.

How many small guards have led the the nba in points and assists like Trae at 23 as well? Hawks #2 offense in the nba last year and continually have elite o-ratings the last 3 years with Trae on the floor. I’m not seeing any small guards similar to Trae offensively.

[jasonxxx102]

He is worth more than Mitchel and Gobert, he will lead your team to nowhere, like Mitchel and Gobert

He already led the hawks to two games away from finals at 22 years old with no all stars on team but sure.

Cavs have no need for Trae. They wouldn’t give up anything to get him.

Garland will end up being a more valuable player anyways imo

I like Garland but I will be suprised considering Trae has been significantly better than Garland comparing their first 3 years.

Statistically, yes. The fact is that Trae has been exposed in the playoffs.

His defense is so bad that it’s hard to overcome when it comes to crunch time. Garland may not be a great defender but he isn’t absolute bottom of the league.

[jasonxxx102]

Trae is a small guard who is offensively brilliant but "defensively challenged". What team has ever won a championship with such a player as their best player?

No one in the modern era. Closest was probably Tiny Archibald and the '81 Celtics, but they also had Larry Bird and a deep front line.

So who could afford to take Trae as their 2nd/3rd best player? In a league with a progressively punishing salary cap?

Gotta be a franchise that is willing to spend tons of money, has a bunch of defenders, and is frustrated at not getting over the hump. Clippers? Philly?

I think Atlanta and it's fans should get used to the idea that the Haws will be highly entertaining and will win a lot of regular season games, but are not really contenders anytime soon.

Archibald averaged 18.8 ppg / 7.4 apg on .543 TS% for his career. He had some great years but check the mpg…dude was playing 40+ mpg in some of these seasons. Not really like Trae at all and Trae was much more efficient.

How many small guards have led the the nba in points and assists like Trae at 23 as well? Hawks #2 offense in the nba last year and continually have elite o-ratings the last 3 years with Trae on the floor. I’m not seeing any small guards similar to Trae offensively.

Hawks did all that and still got embarrassed. How much more can Trae do at this point?

[Ball4life32]

He is worth more than Mitchel and Gobert, he will lead your team to nowhere, like Mitchel and Gobert

He already led the hawks to two games away from finals at 22 years old with no all stars on team but sure.

Cavs have no need for Trae. They wouldn’t give up anything to get him.

Garland will end up being a more valuable player anyways imo

I like Garland but I will be suprised considering Trae has been significantly better than Garland comparing their first 3 years.

Statistically, yes. The fact is that Trae has been exposed in the playoffs.

His defense is so bad that it’s hard to overcome when it comes to crunch time. Garland may not be a great defender but he isn’t absolute bottom of the league.

Trae is a small guard who is offensively brilliant but "defensively challenged". What team has ever won a championship with such a player as their best player?

No one in the modern era. Closest was probably Tiny Archibald and the '81 Celtics, but they also had Larry Bird and a deep front line.

So who could afford to take Trae as their 2nd/3rd best player? In a league with a progressively punishing salary cap?

Gotta be a franchise that is willing to spend tons of money, has a bunch of defenders, and is frustrated at not getting over the hump. Clippers? Philly?

I think Atlanta and it's fans should get used to the idea that the Haws will be highly entertaining and will win a lot of regular season games, but are not really contenders anytime soon.

Archibald averaged 18.8 ppg / 7.4 apg on .543 TS% for his career. He had some great years but check the mpg…dude was playing 40+ mpg in some of these seasons. Not really like Trae at all and Trae was much more efficient.

How many small guards have led the the nba in points and assists like Trae at 23 as well? Hawks #2 offense in the nba last year and continually have elite o-ratings the last 3 years with Trae on the floor. I’m not seeing any small guards similar to Trae offensively.

Hawks did all that and still got embarrassed. How much more can Trae do at this point?

Exposed? And did all of what? Didn’t he just lead the hawks to ECF barley 1 year ago. Trae has 10 playoff wins in the last 15-16 months but yeah clearly he’s exposed based off of one playoff series vs the #1 seed with an injured frontcourt (Capela/Collins we’re not healthy and struggled).

[Plutonashfan]

Nothing.