State of Cowboys Union?

[Mr B]

In fact now that I think about it Stafford is a perfect example. Dak is basically on Stafford's level. Now we just have to put a Ram's roster around him.

The Lions couldn't do it for Stafford. And everyone thought he was "average" there.

Stafford didn't suddenly get better at playing QB, his teammates suddenly got better.

Stanford is a much better pure passer than Dak. You won’t get many people that will disagree with that.

[Mr B]

I was going to compare Dak to Stafford in the other thread…agreed. Dak is still also young and his game will age well. I don’t think your problem is dak at all

Dak is just as much a problem as the other areas of the team.

So where do you rank Dak in terms of starting NFL QBs and how many starting QBs do you believe can win a SB?

Dak is somewhere around the 10th best QB in the NFL.

[azcatz11]

Dak is just as much a problem as the other areas of the team.

So where do you rank Dak in terms of starting NFL QBs and how many starting QBs do you believe can win a SB?

Dak is somewhere around the 10th best QB in the NFL.

And that is good enough to win a SB correct?

[Mr B]

So where do you rank Dak in terms of starting NFL QBs and how many starting QBs do you believe can win a SB?

Dak is somewhere around the 10th best QB in the NFL.

And that is good enough to win a SB correct?

If you have an amazing team around him yes. And that includes an amazing coach. None of which the Cowboys have right now.

[Micah Prescott]

Dak is somewhere around the 10th best QB in the NFL.

And that is good enough to win a SB correct?

If you have an amazing team around him yes. And that includes an amazing coach. None of which the Cowboys have right now.

Right this is the point I was trying to make.

Let's focus on the amazing team around him and coach instead of trying to go from the 10th best QB to a top-5 QB which could take eons.

[Micah Prescott]

In fact now that I think about it Stafford is a perfect example. Dak is basically on Stafford's level. Now we just have to put a Ram's roster around him.

The Lions couldn't do it for Stafford. And everyone thought he was "average" there.

Stafford didn't suddenly get better at playing QB, his teammates suddenly got better.

Stanford is a much better pure passer than Dak. You won’t get many people that will disagree with that.

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

[Mr B]

In fact now that I think about it Stafford is a perfect example. Dak is basically on Stafford's level. Now we just have to put a Ram's roster around him.

The Lions couldn't do it for Stafford. And everyone thought he was "average" there.

Stafford didn't suddenly get better at playing QB, his teammates suddenly got better.

Stanford is a much better pure passer than Dak. You won’t get many people that will disagree with that.

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

To me he gets a pass for his Detroit days. Any QB would have trouble winning with the rosters he had with the Lions. He showed how good he is with a decent team.

[bluejerseyjinx]

In fact now that I think about it Stafford is a perfect example. Dak is basically on Stafford's level. Now we just have to put a Ram's roster around him.

The Lions couldn't do it for Stafford. And everyone thought he was "average" there.

Stafford didn't suddenly get better at playing QB, his teammates suddenly got better.

Stanford is a much better pure passer than Dak. You won’t get many people that will disagree with that.

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

Firget the both of them if you ever want to win a Super Bowl again. time to start searching for a new one. Stafford is banged up and close to calling it a career and Dak Sucks. But as long as they come close to .500 every year, that's fine with you. Jerry is already throwing out the fish hook with a bobber on it waiting for the younger generation fans to take a bite and continue to buy tickets to his homes games that he just increased by 20%.

[Micah Prescott]

Stanford is a much better pure passer than Dak. You won’t get many people that will disagree with that.

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

To me he gets a pass for his Detroit days. Any QB would have trouble winning with the rosters he had with the Lions. He showed how good he is with a decent team.

Yes exactly, which correlates to Dak.

Dak had a "decent" cast last season. Adequate weapons on offense but an "average" defense and a blew average coach. This result in a 12-5 season and playoff birth where they lost.

This season Dak lost Cooper, Tyron, Gallup, and Wilson which is an extreme downgrade to say the least. In fact without Lamb I would probably label that the worst cast in the entire NFL. With Lamb it's still probably bottom-10.


Anyway my point is, we need to be okay with Dak as the team's QB and instead put all of our efforts into everything else.

[Micah Prescott]

Stanford is a much better pure passer than Dak. You won’t get many people that will disagree with that.

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

Firget the both of them if you ever want to win a Super Bowl again. time to start searching for a new one. Stafford is banged up and close to calling it a career and Dak Sucks. But as long as they come close to .500 every year, that's fine with you. Jerry is already throwing out the fish hook with a bobber on it waiting for the younger generation fans to take a bite and continue to buy tickets to his homes games that he just increased by 20%.

You're a broken record. Jerry will never sell the team regardless of what fans think young or old and the stadium will always sell out. Many who buy tickets aren't even Dallas fans they are in town to see their team.

The Jones' will own the Dallas Cowboys until you die and you need to find acceptance already.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I've already accepted the fact I will never see the Cowboys win another Super Bowl as long as Jerry owns the team. About 5 years ago to be honest. And I'm not the broken record. Jerry is. Jerry has once again not learned from past mistakes and now his behavior and choices have cycled around again. And you eat it all up. Keep doing the same things but expect different results. Wow.

[Mr B]

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

To me he gets a pass for his Detroit days. Any QB would have trouble winning with the rosters he had with the Lions. He showed how good he is with a decent team.

Yes exactly, which correlates to Dak.

Dak had a "decent" cast last season. Adequate weapons on offense but an "average" defense and a blew average coach. This result in a 12-5 season and playoff birth where they lost.

This season Dak lost Cooper, Tyron, Gallup, and Wilson which is an extreme downgrade to say the least. In fact without Lamb I would probably label that the worst cast in the entire NFL. With Lamb it's still probably bottom-10.


Anyway my point is, we need to be okay with Dak as the team's QB and instead put all of our efforts into everything else.

What about last year? What about 2016, and 2019? Dak had probably the best collection of talent and top 5 OL in all 3 seasons. You can’t compare the Lions to the Cowboys. For all of Jerry’s faults (and there are a ton of them) he’s given Dak some of the best talent in the NFL. Stafford would have KILLED for that kind of talent when he was in Detroit.

[Mr B]

I definitely disagree with this. Dak has higher comp%, rating, and better passing numbers all around. I guess it is easy to forget all the mediocre years Stafford had in Detroit after last season but he is was the definition of "inconsistent" there.

Firget the both of them if you ever want to win a Super Bowl again. time to start searching for a new one. Stafford is banged up and close to calling it a career and Dak Sucks. But as long as they come close to .500 every year, that's fine with you. Jerry is already throwing out the fish hook with a bobber on it waiting for the younger generation fans to take a bite and continue to buy tickets to his homes games that he just increased by 20%.

You're a broken record. Jerry will never sell the team regardless of what fans think young or old and the stadium will always sell out. Many who buy tickets aren't even Dallas fans they are in town to see their team.

The Jones' will own the Dallas Cowboys until you die and you need to find acceptance already.

Facts! Bitching and moaning about Jerry is like bitching and moaning about the Texas heat in Summer. You knew it was hot before you got here and complaining about it isn’t going to change it. Just like the heat, the Jones family will always own the team.

[Micah Prescott]

To me he gets a pass for his Detroit days. Any QB would have trouble winning with the rosters he had with the Lions. He showed how good he is with a decent team.

Yes exactly, which correlates to Dak.

Dak had a "decent" cast last season. Adequate weapons on offense but an "average" defense and a blew average coach. This result in a 12-5 season and playoff birth where they lost.

This season Dak lost Cooper, Tyron, Gallup, and Wilson which is an extreme downgrade to say the least. In fact without Lamb I would probably label that the worst cast in the entire NFL. With Lamb it's still probably bottom-10.


Anyway my point is, we need to be okay with Dak as the team's QB and instead put all of our efforts into everything else.

What about last year? What about 2016, and 2019? Dak had probably the best collection of talent and top 5 OL in all 3 seasons. You can’t compare the Lions to the Cowboys. For all of Jerry’s faults (and there are a ton of them) he’s given Dak some of the best talent in the NFL. Stafford would have KILLED for that kind of talent when he was in Detroit.

I concede that Dak has certainly had better surrounding than Stafford did in Detroit but mostly the results have been better. Dallas was a good regular season team that doesn't show up in the playoffs. Although Dak did win 1 playoff game.

The Cowboys then were in between what the Lions were then and what the Rams were last year. Good rosters but not Super Bowl calibre teams.

The Broncos won a ring when Manning was one of the worst QBs in the NLF. They did this with stellar defensive play. Why does the Dallas defense always get a pass or little attention? Too much focus on Dak and not enough focus on our D.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Firget the both of them if you ever want to win a Super Bowl again. time to start searching for a new one. Stafford is banged up and close to calling it a career and Dak Sucks. But as long as they come close to .500 every year, that's fine with you. Jerry is already throwing out the fish hook with a bobber on it waiting for the younger generation fans to take a bite and continue to buy tickets to his homes games that he just increased by 20%.

You're a broken record. Jerry will never sell the team regardless of what fans think young or old and the stadium will always sell out. Many who buy tickets aren't even Dallas fans they are in town to see their team.

The Jones' will own the Dallas Cowboys until you die and you need to find acceptance already.

Facts! Bitching and moaning about Jerry is like bitching and moaning about the Texas heat in Summer. You knew it was hot before you got here and complaining about it isn’t going to change it. Just like the heat, the Jones family will always own the team.

I've been loyal for 52 years now. Can't take another 26 years of this crap. I'm done. This team and organization is cursed and have seen all their best days. No more bitching and moaning from me on this matter. I'm not lying down with the Jones'.

[Micah Prescott]

You're a broken record. Jerry will never sell the team regardless of what fans think young or old and the stadium will always sell out. Many who buy tickets aren't even Dallas fans they are in town to see their team.

The Jones' will own the Dallas Cowboys until you die and you need to find acceptance already.

Facts! Bitching and moaning about Jerry is like bitching and moaning about the Texas heat in Summer. You knew it was hot before you got here and complaining about it isn’t going to change it. Just like the heat, the Jones family will always own the team.

I've been loyal for 52 years now. Can't take another 26 years of this crap. I'm done. This team and organization is cursed and have seen all their best days. No more bitching and moaning from me on this matter. I'm not lying down with the Jones'.

Also aside from acceptance of the Jones' ownership there is also the fact that this is just a game. It's just entertainment. If it is causing you real distress then yeah you're taking it too seriously. I'm not even trying to knock you on that either there were lots of years where I had to put myself in check and a Cowboys loss basically ruined my entire week. It took me a while to realize that it is just silly to take this stuff that seriously. There are players on the team who probably don't even care about wins and losses to the degree that I did. If the Cowboys win 10 more Super Bowls or if they never win another one it doesn't impact my life either way.

The silver lining to this season's horrid opener and the Dak injury is that I can focus more on things that actually matter in my life.

Taking sports too seriously is basically a culture flaw in the US. There are parents out there getting into fist fights over their kids' peewee leagues. It's just stupid.

[Mr B]

Facts! Bitching and moaning about Jerry is like bitching and moaning about the Texas heat in Summer. You knew it was hot before you got here and complaining about it isn’t going to change it. Just like the heat, the Jones family will always own the team.

I've been loyal for 52 years now. Can't take another 26 years of this crap. I'm done. This team and organization is cursed and have seen all their best days. No more bitching and moaning from me on this matter. I'm not lying down with the Jones'.

Also aside from acceptance of the Jones' ownership there is also the fact that this is just a game. It's just entertainment. If it is causing you real distress then yeah you're taking it too seriously. I'm not even trying to knock you on that either there were lots of years where I had to put myself in check and a Cowboys loss basically ruined my entire week. It took me a while to realize that it is just silly to take this stuff that seriously. There are players on the team who probably don't even care about wins and losses to the degree that I did. If the Cowboys win 10 more Super Bowls or if they never win another one it doesn't impact my life either way.

The silver lining to this season's horrid opener and the Dak injury is that I can focus more on things that actually matter in my life.

Taking sports too seriously is basically a culture flaw in the US. There are parents out there getting into fist fights over their kids' peewee leagues. It's just stupid.

I agree. I usually watch the games at home because I can be a miserable person to be around when the Cowboys are imploding. No more though. I honestly might not watch any day games at home now. Time to get out and enjoy the changing of the season and just check out the highlights.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I've been loyal for 52 years now. Can't take another 26 years of this crap. I'm done. This team and organization is cursed and have seen all their best days. No more bitching and moaning from me on this matter. I'm not lying down with the Jones'.

Also aside from acceptance of the Jones' ownership there is also the fact that this is just a game. It's just entertainment. If it is causing you real distress then yeah you're taking it too seriously. I'm not even trying to knock you on that either there were lots of years where I had to put myself in check and a Cowboys loss basically ruined my entire week. It took me a while to realize that it is just silly to take this stuff that seriously. There are players on the team who probably don't even care about wins and losses to the degree that I did. If the Cowboys win 10 more Super Bowls or if they never win another one it doesn't impact my life either way.

The silver lining to this season's horrid opener and the Dak injury is that I can focus more on things that actually matter in my life.

Taking sports too seriously is basically a culture flaw in the US. There are parents out there getting into fist fights over their kids' peewee leagues. It's just stupid.

I agree. I usually watch the games at home because I can be a miserable person to be around when the Cowboys are imploding. No more though. I honestly might not watch any day games at home now. Time to get out and enjoy the changing of the season and just check out the highlights.

My fantasy money teams went 8-2 last week. I so enjoy fantasy football since 1983. I'm good at it and I'm so passionate about it. and as many in here already know, The Kansas City Chiefs have always been my favorite AFC team since 1970. We don't ever talk about them in here but I really love watching them and I still feel Pat Mahomes may turn out to be the best QB when its all said and done. They are suck a fun team to watch just like Steph Curry and the Warriors are in the NBA. This is my new focus and where my energy will be going this season. After 52 years of loyalty to the Cowboys, I just can't do it anymore.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Another bright side to Gregory backing out is with him and Conner Williams gone those responsible for about 50% of their penalties are no longer on the team.

Penalties way down on defense so far this year. Especially the stupid ones and not counting the one in the 4th period on 4th down vs. the Bengals. Can't say the same for the offense however. .

[Micah Prescott]

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Eagles look forreal unfortunately

We better come with a strong plan in the run game those weeks because I don't think we will be getting much passing yards against them.

Wasn't expecting Hurts to look this good either. I didn't think that guy was a keeper. He looked very good last night.