Offseason thread vol 9 - RUN IT BYK

[oreon]

2. Alonzo Mourning reached out to Herro yesterday about the cryptic tweet, and had a lengthy conversation with him. Herro told Alonzo that it wasn't anything to do with the contract extension talks or directed at the Team that it was actually towards his girlfriend. Alonzo explained to him that keep all your personal sh#t about your relationship out of the limelight it makes you look childish. There are media platforms now running away with the fact that Herro is upset with the team on his extension discussions based on that tweet, and Pat told Alonzo to talk to him about just trying to keep all these unnecessary cryptic tweets at a minimum, these are the things the seniors are looking at and saying dude come on really!!! This was not about controlling what Herro post but a lecture on maturing while living in the social media times where anything can be taken out of context.

I don't believe the tweet was directed @his gf - it only makes him look worse if true. Childish & immature. He has some growing up to do. The guidance is needed. Happy he's been spoken to about his social media bs.

I guess you can not teach maturity, guidance and time is needed for it to develop. If it was about his girlfriend is even a dumber move, nobody needs to know about your private life, if directed at the team is bad as well, there is a severe lack of maturity with today's kids. What the h ell is going on.

Herro is not a kid and Alonzo should mind his business. Athletes are not kids and we need to stop treating them like that. Unless that posts was explicitly about the team, than I don't see why Alonzo or the Heat should be freaked out about it. Lebron posts cryptic tweets all the time and the team ain't calling him about. And so do many players and celebrities. Social media is part of the life, and the oldheads just need to accept it. As far as I'm concerned players can't post what they want if its not racist or its obviously targeted at the team/coach or a team mate

[oreon]

Sarver should be banned lol wtf? Why would he only be suspended? Trade us Booker and bridges

Silver works for the owners. Only reason Sterling is gone cuz the other owners hated him. No way in hell were the owners gonna ok this. I'm sure there are a couple others who have skeletons in the closet. No way were they gonna make it easier to loose their own teams. I never thought there was a chance he'd be forced to sell unless it was a complete PR disaster that was hurting the league and therefore the money

[MHeat0279]

I don't believe the tweet was directed @his gf - it only makes him look worse if true. Childish & immature. He has some growing up to do. The guidance is needed. Happy he's been spoken to about his social media bs.

I guess you can not teach maturity, guidance and time is needed for it to develop. If it was about his girlfriend is even a dumber move, nobody needs to know about your private life, if directed at the team is bad as well, there is a severe lack of maturity with today's kids. What the h ell is going on.

Herro is not a kid and Alonzo should mind his business. Athletes are not kids and we need to stop treating them like that. Unless that posts was explicitly about the team, than I don't see why Alonzo or the Heat should be freaked out about it. Lebron posts cryptic tweets all the time and the team ain't calling him about. And so do many players and celebrities. Social media is part of the life, and the oldheads just need to accept it. As far as I'm concerned players can't post what they want if its not racist or its obviously targeted at the team/coach or a team mate

Herro's has been involved lately in a lot of immature s hit, we are not talking about if he is allowed to post or not, but a certain level of professionalism is required as a professional sports player, as for him airing his personal life is totally up to him, but it doesnt take from the fact it makes him look like an immature person. Are you really using Lebron as an example of how a player should act? Dont get me started the B itch move he made on us waiting until the end to announce he wasnt coming back and the Heat were left hanging without options. As well as airing his political views, not saying they are right or wrong but you should know those opinions will generate conflict, its a total lack of commom sence to say the least.

[oreon]

I guess you can not teach maturity, guidance and time is needed for it to develop. If it was about his girlfriend is even a dumber move, nobody needs to know about your private life, if directed at the team is bad as well, there is a severe lack of maturity with today's kids. What the h ell is going on.

Herro is not a kid and Alonzo should mind his business. Athletes are not kids and we need to stop treating them like that. Unless that posts was explicitly about the team, than I don't see why Alonzo or the Heat should be freaked out about it. Lebron posts cryptic tweets all the time and the team ain't calling him about. And so do many players and celebrities. Social media is part of the life, and the oldheads just need to accept it. As far as I'm concerned players can't post what they want if its not racist or its obviously targeted at the team/coach or a team mate

Herro's has been involved lately in a lot of immature s hit, we are not talking about if he is allowed to post or not, but a certain level of professionalism is required as a professional sports player, as for him airing his personal life is totally up to him, but it doesnt take from the fact it makes him look like an immature person. Are you really using Lebron as an example of how a player should act? Dont get me started the B itch move he made on us waiting until the end to announce he wasnt coming back and the Heat were left hanging without options. As well as airing his political views, not saying they are right or wrong but you should know those opinions will generate conflict, its a total lack of commom sence to say the least.

There's something weird about fans and how we see players compared to other celebrities. We want to cap what they can earn, we want them to play for our college teams without pay, we want them to entertain and keep their mouths shut about anything else.

They are people with their own views, lives and opinions. So if players have political views and air them, what do fans care ? You don't have to listen to them. I'm not gonna take my political cues from any celebrity or pretty much any advice from any celebrity. But I don't care if they air them.

And what did Herro do that was so immature that team related and not his personal business ? Post on insta. Please. Only thing I care about is, he putting work in the offseason. Is he adding weight. Is he working on his handles. Is he work on his finishing. The rest is pointless when it comes to the game. Unless his trashing his teammates or coach, he can post whatever quotes he wants however cringe they are.

The only point you have on the Lebron thing is how he left. For a team and FO and Fans that stood by him when everyone hated him and belittled him, he should have shown better good will and given that advance. But Riley has played players like that and GMs do it all the time. Its just this team Lebron turned the tables and the players were the ones doing it. It just for what that team went through its a little sad how things fell apart in the end and its just largely been forgotten

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[Grumpy Heat Fan]

damn, someone stole Opa Locka from us

[twix2500]

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Hate that the kid couldn't figure it out. Had the talent to play the Martin/DJJ role but mentally couldn't put it together in a sufficient amount of time.

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[twix2500]

Herro is not a kid and Alonzo should mind his business. Athletes are not kids and we need to stop treating them like that. Unless that posts was explicitly about the team, than I don't see why Alonzo or the Heat should be freaked out about it. Lebron posts cryptic tweets all the time and the team ain't calling him about. And so do many players and celebrities. Social media is part of the life, and the oldheads just need to accept it. As far as I'm concerned players can't post what they want if its not racist or its obviously targeted at the team/coach or a team mate

Herro's has been involved lately in a lot of immature s hit, we are not talking about if he is allowed to post or not, but a certain level of professionalism is required as a professional sports player, as for him airing his personal life is totally up to him, but it doesnt take from the fact it makes him look like an immature person. Are you really using Lebron as an example of how a player should act? Dont get me started the B itch move he made on us waiting until the end to announce he wasnt coming back and the Heat were left hanging without options. As well as airing his political views, not saying they are right or wrong but you should know those opinions will generate conflict, its a total lack of commom sence to say the least.

There's something weird about fans and how we see players compared to other celebrities. We want to cap what they can earn, we want them to play for our college teams without pay, we want them to entertain and keep their mouths shut about anything else.

They are people with their own views, lives and opinions. So if players have political views and air them, what do fans care ? You don't have to listen to them. I'm not gonna take my political cues from any celebrity or pretty much any advice from any celebrity. But I don't care if they air them.

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 And what did Herro do that was so immature that team related and not his personal business ?   

Post on insta. Please. Only thing I care about is, he putting work in the offseason. Is he adding weight. Is he working on his handles. Is he work on his finishing. The rest is pointless when it comes to the game. Unless his trashing his teammates or coach, he can post whatever quotes he wants however cringe they are.

The only point you have on the Lebron thing is how he left. For a team and FO and Fans that stood by him when everyone hated him and belittled him, he should have shown better good will and given that advance. But Riley has played players like that and GMs do it all the time. Its just this team Lebron turned the tables and the players were the ones doing it. It just for what that team went through its a little sad how things fell apart in the end and its just largely been forgotten

I think most people lose perspective of social media platforms. Post on public open social media platforms is equivalent to posting a message on a roadside billboard or putting a message for a plane to fly over the city. Social media is not equal to writing personal letter to someone or hanging a picture or message in your home. Its not your private account. Posting on social media is advertisement. A lot of young kids do not understand this and that is why its considered immature on Herro part.


Many jobs not just entertainment expect all employees, partners and vendors to understand this and they take social media post as their business of interest.


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[oreon]

Herro's has been involved lately in a lot of immature s hit, we are not talking about if he is allowed to post or not, but a certain level of professionalism is required as a professional sports player, as for him airing his personal life is totally up to him, but it doesnt take from the fact it makes him look like an immature person. Are you really using Lebron as an example of how a player should act? Dont get me started the B itch move he made on us waiting until the end to announce he wasnt coming back and the Heat were left hanging without options. As well as airing his political views, not saying they are right or wrong but you should know those opinions will generate conflict, its a total lack of commom sence to say the least.

There's something weird about fans and how we see players compared to other celebrities. We want to cap what they can earn, we want them to play for our college teams without pay, we want them to entertain and keep their mouths shut about anything else.

They are people with their own views, lives and opinions. So if players have political views and air them, what do fans care ? You don't have to listen to them. I'm not gonna take my political cues from any celebrity or pretty much any advice from any celebrity. But I don't care if they air them.

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 And what did Herro do that was so immature that team related and not his personal business ?   

Post on insta. Please. Only thing I care about is, he putting work in the offseason. Is he adding weight. Is he working on his handles. Is he work on his finishing. The rest is pointless when it comes to the game. Unless his trashing his teammates or coach, he can post whatever quotes he wants however cringe they are.

The only point you have on the Lebron thing is how he left. For a team and FO and Fans that stood by him when everyone hated him and belittled him, he should have shown better good will and given that advance. But Riley has played players like that and GMs do it all the time. Its just this team Lebron turned the tables and the players were the ones doing it. It just for what that team went through its a little sad how things fell apart in the end and its just largely been forgotten

I think most people lose perspective of social media platforms. Post on public open social media platforms is equivalent to posting a message on a roadside billboard or putting a message for a plane to fly over the city. Social media is not equal to writing personal letter to someone or hanging a picture or message in your home. Its not your private account. Posting on social media is advertisement. A lot of young kids do not understand this and that is why its considered immature on Herro part.


Many jobs not just entertainment expect all employees, partners and vendors to understand this and they take social media post as their business of interest.


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Times have changed. This is just how it is now. Nowadays will post anything to gain clout. Personally I think we would be a whole lot better off, if people kept their personal business private and even a lot healthier as a society without social media. But that's just me. What I don't like its employers meddling in their employees social media. If it doesn't affect the company especially if is a benign quote they need to stay out of it.
On the Herro thing, I take some part of it back. If Herro wants to post on social media, fans can react however they want.
But the Alonzo thing I don't agree with. As a team employee he should have stayed out if it. Teams shouldn't treat athletes like children. The only team the team should get involved if a post is a racist/controversial statement or would harm/discredit team unity.

[Timantha]

Our future bench point guard looking in shape jk

[AirP.]

Times have changed. This is just how it is now. Nowadays will post anything to gain clout. Personally I think we would be a whole lot better off, if people kept their personal business private and even a lot healthier as a society without social media. But that's just me. What I don't like its employers meddling in their employees social media. If it doesn't affect the company especially if is a benign quote they need to stay out of it.
On the Herro thing, I take some part of it back. If Herro wants to post on social media, fans can react however they want.
But the Alonzo thing I don't agree with. As a team employee he should have stayed out if it. Teams shouldn't treat athletes like children. The only team the team should get involved if a post is a racist/controversial statement or would harm/discredit team unity.

You don't agree with Zo reaching out to talk to him? Did the Miami Heat organization force Herro to talk to Zo, did Herro go to his agent to tell him to handle it? Had Miami not had a representative reach out to Herro to find out what the cryptic tweet was they may have felt it was against them and with that, possibly effected his future with the Heat and quite possibly other organizations.

Anything you put out in the public is up for scrutiny and can negatively effect you or your organization and it's magnified when you're in the entertainment business which sports is a part of. It takes one tweet to cause a whole lot of drama.

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According to McDonough, Bledsoe told the team the tweet referred to his not wanting to be at a hair salon.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2740296-eric-bledsoe-told-suns-i-dont-wanna-be-here-tweet-was-about-hair-salon-per-gm

[AirP.]

On the Sarver situation... the players have the power to basically force Sarver out by not signing with the Suns or if they're already on the team or drafted there, demanding a trade out basically make it such a bad situation that Sarver would have to sell the franchise vs let the team keep getting worse which would keep dropping in value by the players refusing to sign in Phoenix.

[oreon]

Times have changed. This is just how it is now. Nowadays will post anything to gain clout. Personally I think we would be a whole lot better off, if people kept their personal business private and even a lot healthier as a society without social media. But that's just me. What I don't like its employers meddling in their employees social media. If it doesn't affect the company especially if is a benign quote they need to stay out of it.
On the Herro thing, I take some part of it back. If Herro wants to post on social media, fans can react however they want.
But the Alonzo thing I don't agree with. As a team employee he should have stayed out if it. Teams shouldn't treat athletes like children. The only team the team should get involved if a post is a racist/controversial statement or would harm/discredit team unity.

You don't agree with Zo reaching out to talk to him? Did the Miami Heat organization force Herro to talk to Zo, did Herro go to his agent to tell him to handle it? Had Miami not had a representative reach out to Herro to find out what the cryptic tweet was they may have felt it was against them and with that, possibly effected his future with the Heat and quite possibly other organizations.

Anything you put out in the public is up for scrutiny and can negatively effect you or your organization and it's magnified when you're in the entertainment business which sports is a part of. It takes one tweet to cause a whole lot of drama.

Say something like...

Read on Twitter

According to McDonough, Bledsoe told the team the tweet referred to his not wanting to be at a hair salon.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2740296-eric-bledsoe-told-suns-i-dont-wanna-be-here-tweet-was-about-hair-salon-per-gm

I'm not a fan of employers seeking to control employees outside the boundaries of work. There was nothing on that post. It wasn't on ESPN and didn't trend on twitter. No one was making a big deal of it. Only reason I saw cuz of this forum. You can't seek to control every communication of your players. Herro has a right to post what he wants on social media as long as it doesn't break league rules or hurt team chemistry or unity. In this case it did neither. And ZO is a team employee. With all the his interactions with players he is representing the team.
On the contract, its straight foward. We've seen this play out a million times before. Herro thinks he's worth more than Heat do.
So he can either accept what he's being offered or risk injury/bad play to get a better offer in the summer. And since restricted Heat can match anyways. Each side can hold out for what they want and if there's no resolution the market will ultimately decide his value. Unless hero post some racist stuff his insta will have zero effect on how much he will get paid. That will be determined by his playoff performance. If he underwhelms again, I don't see him getting an offer past 100 million. 3 seasons of poor playoff performance will be hard for any team to overlook

[AirP.]

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I'm not a fan of employers seeking to control employees outside the boundaries of work. There was nothing on that post. It wasn't on ESPN and didn't trend on twitter. No one was making a big deal of it. Only reason I saw cuz of this forum. You can't seek to control every communication of your players. Herro has a right to post what he wants on social media as long as it doesn't break league rules or hurt team chemistry or unity. In this case it did neither. And ZO is a team employee. With all the his interactions with players he is representing the team.

I'm not a fan of a employees cryptically #)$( talking the people who pay them because they're not giving him his money as soon as they could, maybe he was maybe he wasn't talking about Miami but nobody but Herro really knows.

I don't know about you but I absolutely want someone to come talk to me if I've done something that created waves with my management, I'd see it as a curtesy since I can just be fired where as Herro could just be traded and keep his job. Also, we're talking about an organization(NBA) that has rookies take classes to understand how to handle their money and situations that happen in their private lives, why would that end once the young player is on a team? Teams want to protect their assets.

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The mandatory four-day program, which began in 1986, is designed by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association to prepare NBA newcomers for the future through a series of presentations, panel discussions and interactive workshops conducted by NBA and NBPA members, current and former players and legends, and experts in various fields not related to basketball.

This year's program, which started Sunday and concludes Wednesday, has focused on a variety of topics, including: career development, diversity and inclusion, financial education, media training, NBA history, nutrition and hydration, rest and recovery, social media, and stress management.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/08/15/nba-transition-program-helps-rookies-avoid-financial-social-pitfalls/565654001/

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On the contract, its straight foward. We've seen this play out a million times before. Herro thinks he's worth more than Heat do.
So he can either accept what he's being offered or risk injury/bad play to get a better offer in the summer. And since restricted Heat can match anyways. Each side can hold out for what they want and if there's no resolution the market will ultimately decide his value. Unless hero post some racist stuff his insta will have zero effect on how much he will get paid. That will be determined by his playoff performance. If he underwhelms again, I don't see him getting an offer past 100 million. 3 seasons of poor playoff performance will be hard for any team to overlook

Maybe, but if I'm a GM of another team, I'm a little concerned with Herro putting out possible cryptic things against the FO and with that, may lessen his trade value to some teams. If Herro were KD he could nearly get away with murder with very little issues, KD said he wanted his GM and coach fired and that info got to the public and they weren't and the organization is willing to deal with the issues created based on his talent. If Highsmith says he wants Spoelstra fired then Highsmith is no longer on the team, his talent isn't worth the problems. Talent dictates what you can and can't get away.

This is an interesting topic.

[oreon]

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I'm not a fan of employers seeking to control employees outside the boundaries of work. There was nothing on that post. It wasn't on ESPN and didn't trend on twitter. No one was making a big deal of it. Only reason I saw cuz of this forum. You can't seek to control every communication of your players. Herro has a right to post what he wants on social media as long as it doesn't break league rules or hurt team chemistry or unity. In this case it did neither. And ZO is a team employee. With all the his interactions with players he is representing the team.

I'm not a fan of a employees cryptically #)$( talking the people who pay them because they're not giving him his money as soon as they could, maybe he was maybe he wasn't talking about Miami but nobody but Herro really knows.

I don't know about you but I absolutely want someone to come talk to me if I've done something that created waves with my management, I'd see it as a curtesy since I can just be fired where as Herro could just be traded and keep his job. Also, we're talking about an organization(NBA) that has rookies take classes to understand how to handle their money and situations that happen in their private lives, why would that end once the young player is on a team? Teams want to protect their assets.

Spoiler:

The mandatory four-day program, which began in 1986, is designed by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association to prepare NBA newcomers for the future through a series of presentations, panel discussions and interactive workshops conducted by NBA and NBPA members, current and former players and legends, and experts in various fields not related to basketball.

This year's program, which started Sunday and concludes Wednesday, has focused on a variety of topics, including: career development, diversity and inclusion, financial education, media training, NBA history, nutrition and hydration, rest and recovery, social media, and stress management.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/08/15/nba-transition-program-helps-rookies-avoid-financial-social-pitfalls/565654001/

Spoiler:

On the contract, its straight foward. We've seen this play out a million times before. Herro thinks he's worth more than Heat do.
So he can either accept what he's being offered or risk injury/bad play to get a better offer in the summer. And since restricted Heat can match anyways. Each side can hold out for what they want and if there's no resolution the market will ultimately decide his value. Unless hero post some racist stuff his insta will have zero effect on how much he will get paid. That will be determined by his playoff performance. If he underwhelms again, I don't see him getting an offer past 100 million. 3 seasons of poor playoff performance will be hard for any team to overlook

Maybe, but if I'm a GM of another team, I'm a little concerned with Herro putting out possible cryptic things against the FO and with that, may lessen his trade value to some teams. If Herro were KD he could nearly get away with murder with very little issues, KD said he wanted his GM and coach fired and that info got to the public and they weren't and the organization is willing to deal with the issues created based on his talent. If Highsmith says he wants Spoelstra fired then Highsmith is no longer on the team, his talent isn't worth the problems. Talent dictates what you can and can't get away.

This is an interesting topic.

But this isn't that. If he commented something nefarious or obviously directed towards FO then you have a point but he didn't. And I think most GMs would have common sense to see this is a nothing burger. He didn't like in the KD example call for his coach to be fired. It was pointless for Zo to intervene here. The fact that ZO did and it got reported it adds more attention to something 99.99999 % of NBA fans thought nothing off.
Star players can take shots at the FO, roleplays can't. Herro didn't, no issue here

[Flash4thewin]

Spoiler:

I'm not a fan of employers seeking to control employees outside the boundaries of work. There was nothing on that post. It wasn't on ESPN and didn't trend on twitter. No one was making a big deal of it. Only reason I saw cuz of this forum. You can't seek to control every communication of your players. Herro has a right to post what he wants on social media as long as it doesn't break league rules or hurt team chemistry or unity. In this case it did neither. And ZO is a team employee. With all the his interactions with players he is representing the team.

I'm not a fan of a employees cryptically #)$( talking the people who pay them because they're not giving him his money as soon as they could, maybe he was maybe he wasn't talking about Miami but nobody but Herro really knows.

I don't know about you but I absolutely want someone to come talk to me if I've done something that created waves with my management, I'd see it as a curtesy since I can just be fired where as Herro could just be traded and keep his job. Also, we're talking about an organization(NBA) that has rookies take classes to understand how to handle their money and situations that happen in their private lives, why would that end once the young player is on a team? Teams want to protect their assets.

Spoiler:

The mandatory four-day program, which began in 1986, is designed by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association to prepare NBA newcomers for the future through a series of presentations, panel discussions and interactive workshops conducted by NBA and NBPA members, current and former players and legends, and experts in various fields not related to basketball.

This year's program, which started Sunday and concludes Wednesday, has focused on a variety of topics, including: career development, diversity and inclusion, financial education, media training, NBA history, nutrition and hydration, rest and recovery, social media, and stress management.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/08/15/nba-transition-program-helps-rookies-avoid-financial-social-pitfalls/565654001/

Spoiler:

On the contract, its straight foward. We've seen this play out a million times before. Herro thinks he's worth more than Heat do.
So he can either accept what he's being offered or risk injury/bad play to get a better offer in the summer. And since restricted Heat can match anyways. Each side can hold out for what they want and if there's no resolution the market will ultimately decide his value. Unless hero post some racist stuff his insta will have zero effect on how much he will get paid. That will be determined by his playoff performance. If he underwhelms again, I don't see him getting an offer past 100 million. 3 seasons of poor playoff performance will be hard for any team to overlook

Maybe, but if I'm a GM of another team, I'm a little concerned with Herro putting out possible cryptic things against the FO and with that, may lessen his trade value to some teams. If Herro were KD he could nearly get away with murder with very little issues, KD said he wanted his GM and coach fired and that info got to the public and they weren't and the organization is willing to deal with the issues created based on his talent. If Highsmith says he wants Spoelstra fired then Highsmith is no longer on the team, his talent isn't worth the problems. Talent dictates what you can and can't get away.

This is an interesting topic.

But this isn't that. If he commented something nefarious or obviously directed towards FO then you have a point but he didn't. And I think most GMs would have common sense to see this is a nothing burger. He didn't like in the KD example call for his coach to be fired. It was pointless for Zo to intervene here. The fact that ZO did and it got reported it adds more attention to something 99.99999 % of NBA fans thought nothing off.
Star players can take shots at the FO, roleplays can't. Herro didn't, no issue here

Yeah this is one of those things where Herro is 100% in the right. Times change, what was to some considered unacceptable behavior becomes the norm tomorrow. Isn't Herro like top ten in European jersey sales or something like that, clearly whatever he is doing via social media is workout out for him. Im not sure Zo is the right person to even talk to Herro here. It does show that the front office is clearly worried about perception which is a little strange.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

I'm not a fan of employers seeking to control employees outside the boundaries of work. There was nothing on that post. It wasn't on ESPN and didn't trend on twitter. No one was making a big deal of it. Only reason I saw cuz of this forum. You can't seek to control every communication of your players. Herro has a right to post what he wants on social media as long as it doesn't break league rules or hurt team chemistry or unity. In this case it did neither. And ZO is a team employee. With all the his interactions with players he is representing the team.

I'm not a fan of a employees cryptically #)$( talking the people who pay them because they're not giving him his money as soon as they could, maybe he was maybe he wasn't talking about Miami but nobody but Herro really knows.

I don't know about you but I absolutely want someone to come talk to me if I've done something that created waves with my management, I'd see it as a curtesy since I can just be fired where as Herro could just be traded and keep his job. Also, we're talking about an organization(NBA) that has rookies take classes to understand how to handle their money and situations that happen in their private lives, why would that end once the young player is on a team? Teams want to protect their assets.
[spoiler]

The mandatory four-day program, which began in 1986, is designed by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association to prepare NBA newcomers for the future through a series of presentations, panel discussions and interactive workshops conducted by NBA and NBPA members, current and former players and legends, and experts in various fields not related to basketball.

This year's program, which started Sunday and concludes Wednesday, has focused on a variety of topics, including: career development, diversity and inclusion, financial education, media training, NBA history, nutrition and hydration, rest and recovery, social media, and stress management.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/08/15/nba-transition-program-helps-rookies-avoid-financial-social-pitfalls/565654001/

On the contract, its straight foward. We've seen this play out a million times before. Herro thinks he's worth more than Heat do.
So he can either accept what he's being offered or risk injury/bad play to get a better offer in the summer. And since restricted Heat can match anyways. Each side can hold out for what they want and if there's no resolution the market will ultimately decide his value. Unless hero post some racist stuff his insta will have zero effect on how much he will get paid. That will be determined by his playoff performance. If he underwhelms again, I don't see him getting an offer past 100 million. 3 seasons of poor playoff performance will be hard for any team to overlook

Maybe, but if I'm a GM of another team, I'm a little concerned with Herro putting out possible cryptic things against the FO and with that, may lessen his trade value to some teams. If Herro were KD he could nearly get away with murder with very little issues, KD said he wanted his GM and coach fired and that info got to the public and they weren't and the organization is willing to deal with the issues created based on his talent. If Highsmith says he wants Spoelstra fired then Highsmith is no longer on the team, his talent isn't worth the problems. Talent dictates what you can and can't get away.

This is an interesting topic.

But this isn't that. If he commented something nefarious or obviously directed towards FO then you have a point but he didn't. And I think most GMs would have common sense to see this is a nothing burger. He didn't like in the KD example call for his coach to be fired. It was pointless for Zo to intervene here. The fact that ZO did and it got reported it adds more attention to something 99.99999 % of NBA fans thought nothing off.
Star players can take shots at the FO, roleplays can't. Herro didn't, no issue here

It's not, not a chance it was directed to the FO? Wasn't it rumored that Zo talk to him about it to get the context which is where this exchange between me and you started? Seems maybe... just maybe the FO wanted to be sure which means it wasn't exactly obvious.

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I'm not a fan of employers seeking to control employees outside the boundaries of work. There was nothing on that post. It wasn't on ESPN and didn't trend on twitter. No one was making a big deal of it. Only reason I saw cuz of this forum. You can't seek to control every communication of your players. Herro has a right to post what he wants on social media as long as it doesn't break league rules or hurt team chemistry or unity. In this case it did neither. And ZO is a team employee. With all the his interactions with players he is representing the team.

I'm not a fan of a employees cryptically #)$( talking the people who pay them because they're not giving him his money as soon as they could, maybe he was maybe he wasn't talking about Miami but nobody but Herro really knows.

I don't know about you but I absolutely want someone to come talk to me if I've done something that created waves with my management, I'd see it as a curtesy since I can just be fired where as Herro could just be traded and keep his job. Also, we're talking about an organization(NBA) that has rookies take classes to understand how to handle their money and situations that happen in their private lives, why would that end once the young player is on a team? Teams want to protect their assets.

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The mandatory four-day program, which began in 1986, is designed by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association to prepare NBA newcomers for the future through a series of presentations, panel discussions and interactive workshops conducted by NBA and NBPA members, current and former players and legends, and experts in various fields not related to basketball.

This year's program, which started Sunday and concludes Wednesday, has focused on a variety of topics, including: career development, diversity and inclusion, financial education, media training, NBA history, nutrition and hydration, rest and recovery, social media, and stress management.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/08/15/nba-transition-program-helps-rookies-avoid-financial-social-pitfalls/565654001/

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On the contract, its straight foward. We've seen this play out a million times before. Herro thinks he's worth more than Heat do.
So he can either accept what he's being offered or risk injury/bad play to get a better offer in the summer. And since restricted Heat can match anyways. Each side can hold out for what they want and if there's no resolution the market will ultimately decide his value. Unless hero post some racist stuff his insta will have zero effect on how much he will get paid. That will be determined by his playoff performance. If he underwhelms again, I don't see him getting an offer past 100 million. 3 seasons of poor playoff performance will be hard for any team to overlook

Maybe, but if I'm a GM of another team, I'm a little concerned with Herro putting out possible cryptic things against the FO and with that, may lessen his trade value to some teams. If Herro were KD he could nearly get away with murder with very little issues, KD said he wanted his GM and coach fired and that info got to the public and they weren't and the organization is willing to deal with the issues created based on his talent. If Highsmith says he wants Spoelstra fired then Highsmith is no longer on the team, his talent isn't worth the problems. Talent dictates what you can and can't get away.

This is an interesting topic.

But this isn't that. If he commented something nefarious or obviously directed towards FO then you have a point but he didn't. And I think most GMs would have common sense to see this is a nothing burger. He didn't like in the KD example call for his coach to be fired. It was pointless for Zo to intervene here. The fact that ZO did and it got reported it adds more attention to something 99.99999 % of NBA fans thought nothing off.
Star players can take shots at the FO, roleplays can't. Herro didn't, no issue here

Remember I am giving you guys insider info from office talk amongst staff working over there, this is reported by me, no one outside the organization knows Zo spoke to Herro, at least that I know of from the media. Most of this doesn't go outside their office because they do keep a tight ship over there. You guys are getting unfiltered information that won't go anywhere past this forum, it could get confirmed by the team later down the line but not always. You guys are literally fighting over information that is getting passed around this message board essentially.

Although Ethan from 5 reasons did find a way to get to me through twitter once I posted that funny Durant meme. He Said he's been keeping up with my postings since the other guys mentioned an inside source during the whole Durant hoopla at a website to him I thought that was cool. He concluded that my info has been lining up with his inside source so he knows i'm not BS. but to be careful as I am way too precise with some of the info and names, cause once it makes it back to the Heat and they think a legit leak is happening they will clamp down who it is.