Tampa Bay Rays (78-60) @ Toronto Blue Jays (78-61) - September 12-15
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SharoneWright wrote:In this series of attrition,,, the starters have really done a good job of providing innings. Berrios, Manoah, Strip, have all risen to the occasion.
As did Mitch White, tbh. Saved the bp in the first game yesterday.
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So how much is it going to cost to keep Stripling?
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bluerap23 wrote:So how much is it going to cost to keep Stripling?
They should and likely will make him the qualifying offer. Doubt he takes it as he should be able to get a deal at least as good as Kikuchi did and maybe better.
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bluerap23 wrote:So how much is it going to cost to keep Stripling?
Hard to say. But maybe we can get the business community involved...
Forget "KaWine and Dine".... Let's create "Strips and Chips with Dip".
A growing family would appreciate free food for life and a luxury condo!
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bluerap23 wrote:So how much is it going to cost to keep Stripling?
He's nearing his 33rd birthday and has never thrown more than 122 IP in a season in his career, and I haven't the foggiest idea how teams would value that. A team might do 2 years, $35m or something? Maybe 3 years/$45? No idea. I'd probably strongly consider QOing him (and he might well accept), and nope out if anyone offered him serious AAV over a longish term.
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SharoneWright wrote:In this series of attrition,,, the starters have really done a good job of providing innings. Berrios, Manoah, Strip, have all risen to the occasion.
I mean, even White managed a "quality start" of six innings, from the 2nd to the 7th. Our staff has stepped up when we needed them.
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How much money has Stripling made himself this year?
Can't see him getting a contract less than $20M. (not annual, but in total contract value)
Can't see him getting a contract less than $20M. (not annual, but in total contract value)
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Schad wrote:bluerap23 wrote:So how much is it going to cost to keep Stripling?
He's nearing his 33rd birthday and has never thrown more than 122 IP in a season in his career, and I haven't the foggiest idea how teams would value that. A team might do 2 years, $35m or something? Maybe 3 years/$45? No idea. I'd probably strongly consider QOing him (and he might well accept), and nope out if anyone offered him serious AAV over a longish term.
Looking at Stripling's numbers the past 3 years it's clear that he is having an outlier season in terms of BABIP and HR/FB, without any fundamental change to his stuff (fb speed same this season etc). That indicates strong likelihood of regression next season. So the most I would give him is the QO, and I can easily see Atkins give him the Steven Matz treatment (due to us financially saddled by Kooch and Ryu combined 30M deadweight) which worked out great (Matz has an ERA of 5.7 and been injured a lot this season).
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DelAbbot wrote:Schad wrote:bluerap23 wrote:So how much is it going to cost to keep Stripling?
He's nearing his 33rd birthday and has never thrown more than 122 IP in a season in his career, and I haven't the foggiest idea how teams would value that. A team might do 2 years, $35m or something? Maybe 3 years/$45? No idea. I'd probably strongly consider QOing him (and he might well accept), and nope out if anyone offered him serious AAV over a longish term.
Looking at Stripling's numbers the past 3 years it's clear that he is having an outlier season in terms of BABIP and HR/FB, without any fundamental change to his stuff (fb speed same this season etc). That indicates strong likelihood of regression next season. So the most I would give him is the QO, and I can easily see Atkins give him the Steven Matz treatment (due to us financially saddled by Kooch and Ryu combined 30M deadweight) which worked out great (Matz has an ERA of 5.7 and been injured a lot this season).
QO makes sense. If he accepts it will push our MLB payroll to around 190 million. It will be interesting to see if that is acceptable to ownership.
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bluerap23 wrote:DelAbbot wrote:Schad wrote:
He's nearing his 33rd birthday and has never thrown more than 122 IP in a season in his career, and I haven't the foggiest idea how teams would value that. A team might do 2 years, $35m or something? Maybe 3 years/$45? No idea. I'd probably strongly consider QOing him (and he might well accept), and nope out if anyone offered him serious AAV over a longish term.
Looking at Stripling's numbers the past 3 years it's clear that he is having an outlier season in terms of BABIP and HR/FB, without any fundamental change to his stuff (fb speed same this season etc). That indicates strong likelihood of regression next season. So the most I would give him is the QO, and I can easily see Atkins give him the Steven Matz treatment (due to us financially saddled by Kooch and Ryu combined 30M deadweight) which worked out great (Matz has an ERA of 5.7 and been injured a lot this season).
QO makes sense. If he accepts it will push our MLB payroll to around 190 million. It will be interesting to see if that is acceptable to ownership.
I suspect we'll offer him the QO, and then try to negotiate up to about 30/3 or so. If he gets more elsewhere, we'll take the draft pick.
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What to expect from Gausman? How was their last 4 starts been?
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McClanahan seems to be having trouble locating the plate. Let's hope this keeps up.
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how many pitches is mcclanahan expected to throw?
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Gausman striking a guy out on a splitter right down the middle. No call and it costs the Jays at least a run.
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Gausman getting mother **** by this home plate umpire.. parades should have been caught looking there, no walk, sixth pitch a called strike missed.
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Well this one ended early. Try to get Gausman as many innings as possible now to save the pen for Baltimore.
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