Schroder to Lakers for one year $2.64 million deal

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Re: Schroder to Lakers for one year $2.64 million deal 

Post#121 » by Eric Bieniemy » Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:44 pm

JimmyPlopper wrote:Russell Westbrook / Dennis Schroeder / Austin Reaves
Patrick Beverley / Kendrick Nunn / Max Christie
LeBron James / Lonnie Walker IV / Troy Brown
Anthony Davis / Juan Toscano-Anderson / Wenyen Gabriel
Thomas Bryant / Damian Jones

PG - Reaves - Schroder - Walker
SG - Nunn - Beverley - Christie
C - Davis - Bryant - Jones
PF - James - Westbrook - Gabriel
SF - Brown - Anderson
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Re: Schroder to Lakers for one year $2.64 million deal 

Post#122 » by John Murdoch » Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:27 am

Pretty frustrated we are keeping brick...will still watch but numb from last year untill i see results. The 23' FA plan sounds completely delusional
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Post#123 » by seren » Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:30 am

This shall increase Lakers’ win total from 37 to 37
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Post#124 » by cupcakesnake » Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:57 am

If I made a list of my least favorite active NBA players.... man it's a lot of guys currently on the Lakers. Russ, Lebron, Schroeder, and believe it or not Kendrick Nunn! I go back and forth on Pat Bev and do not like Thomas Bryant.

Thank god I'm a Juan Toscano-Anderson fan! and I don't dislike AD. I have random role-player crushes on Austin Reaves and to a lesser extent Wenyen Gabriel.
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Post#125 » by MAMBAEMD » Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:23 am

^^^ You really should consider not watching Laker games then lol.

I’m interested to know who else you have on your list of least favorite players. You probably do have some that are not on the Lakers.
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Post#126 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:38 am

I don't know if it was on the table, but he should have gone to the Mavs

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Post#127 » by hippesthippo » Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:50 am

JimmyPlopper wrote:Russell Westbrook / Dennis Schroeder / Austin Reaves
Patrick Beverley / Kendrick Nunn / Max Christie
LeBron James / Lonnie Walker IV / Troy Brown
Anthony Davis / Juan Toscano-Anderson / Wenyen Gabriel
Thomas Bryant / Damian Jones


Yup. Thomas Bryant is going to start. AD hates playing Center and for good reason. He really can't take that beating for more than a few playoff series. They could also really use his outside shooting. I think Schroeder will start. Pat Bev or Reaves will be the other guard. Lonnie Walker has to get minutes somewhere or why pay for him.

Schroeder/Beverly/Nunn
Reaves/Walker IV/Nunn
LBJ/Brown Jr./Walker IV
Davis/JTA/LBJ
Bryant/Jones/Davis

If Westbrook plays he's looking at backup forward minutes if I were the coach.
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Post#128 » by hippesthippo » Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:56 am

cupcakesnake wrote:If I made a list of my least favorite active NBA players.... man it's a lot of guys currently on the Lakers. Russ, Lebron, Schroeder, and believe it or not Kendrick Nunn! I go back and forth on Pat Bev and do not like Thomas Bryant.

Thank god I'm a Juan Toscano-Anderson fan! and I don't dislike AD. I have random role-player crushes on Austin Reaves and to a lesser extent Wenyen Gabriel.


JTA is a fun player to watch. He can also go 10 minute stretches where you had no idea he was on the floor. I wish he had a little more Nocioni in him tho.. just a little more dog.

And why the Nunn hate? I'd hardly call him active and his shot actually has a rather aesthetic form imo. I just don't think he's anything more than a shooter.
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Post#129 » by OriginalRed » Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:08 pm

Jesus that roster looks worse by the day lol. Schroder was actually a decent pick up at a minumum but the Lakers now have three undersized guards. I know the Lakers want to try and recreate what they had in 2020 but people need to understand that 2020 roster was good in large part because of the absolute brilliance of AD and Lebron combined with defensive minded roleplayers that executed their roles perfectly. That team had what, 9 good to excellent defenders? Lebron, AD, Caruso, KCP, Dwight, Green, Rondo, Kuzma, and even Bradley at times.

They barely have half that with this roster.
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Post#130 » by cupcakesnake » Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:20 pm

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cupcakesnake wrote:If I made a list of my least favorite active NBA players.... man it's a lot of guys currently on the Lakers. Russ, Lebron, Schroeder, and believe it or not Kendrick Nunn! I go back and forth on Pat Bev and do not like Thomas Bryant.

Thank god I'm a Juan Toscano-Anderson fan! and I don't dislike AD. I have random role-player crushes on Austin Reaves and to a lesser extent Wenyen Gabriel.


JTA is a fun player to watch. He can also go 10 minute stretches where you had no idea he was on the floor. I wish he had a little more Nocioni in him tho.. just a little more dog.

And why the Nunn hate? I'd hardly call him active and his shot actually has a rather aesthetic form imo. I just don't think he's anything more than a shooter.


I don't think JTA is a super high-level player, I just like his game. I was more excited last year when he was shooting the ball well and Golden State gave him a sizable role as a passer. His game would pop a lot more if he was 6'9" instead of 6'6" and could finish more of those cuts. Or like you say, if he had a bit more grit in that hustle player role. I think defensively he could be a good fit in LA, but offensively he's going to have to bounce back as a shooter to be a helpful rotation guy again.

Nunn it's not entirely about basketball. It's about his off-court stuff stemming from before he even came to the NBA. But it was also annoying to see him keep getting mentioned all year in LA as a guy who was going to come back and make a difference. Nunn has faded badly in the playoffs in the 2 years he got there. Both years he went from being a 15ppg scorer on improving efficiency, to being basically unplayable in the playoffs. He's just a guard who can get to his midrange jumper a bit, nothing more.
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Post#131 » by KingFox » Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:58 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:Wonder if nunn still going to be out … hmm or trade is going happen soon

Such a bizarre injury and situation. Maybe i just haven’t read up enough about it, but jeez
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Post#132 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:13 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Pretty frustrated we are keeping brick...will still watch but numb from last year untill i see results. The 23' FA plan sounds completely delusional


It seems to me they had no plan. If they were going to try to re-up LeBron then they should have moved Westbrook long ago to make the roster functional. If they were not going to re-up LeBron they should have hit a full reset and traded everyone they could get anything for and trying to get the swap for their 1st with the Pelicans removed.

Instead they re-upped LeBron, kept Russ (and the picks), and brought in a bunch if medium players with some idea of "potential".

Pretty odd.
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Post#133 » by John Murdoch » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:29 pm

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John Murdoch wrote:Pretty frustrated we are keeping brick...will still watch but numb from last year untill i see results. The 23' FA plan sounds completely delusional


It seems to me they had no plan. If they were going to try to re-up LeBron then they should have moved Westbrook long ago to make the roster functional. If they were not going to re-up LeBron they should have hit a full reset and traded everyone they could get anything for and trying to get the swap for their 1st with the Pelicans removed.

Instead they re-upped LeBron, kept Russ (and the picks), and brought in a bunch if medium players with some idea of "potential".

Pretty odd.


VERY odd indeed man. One would think that LeBron wouldnt sign that extension for just a repeat of last season...it felt like he did so given assurance from Rob that WB would be gone and both 1st used to try and maximize his contention window. Waiting till the deadline is insanely risky given that we could be out of even the playin race by then with how tough the scheduele starts off. We dont need 4 undersized guards mascarading as shooting guards.
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Re: Schroder to Lakers for one year $2.64 million deal 

Post#134 » by JellosJigglin » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:57 pm

John Murdoch wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Pretty frustrated we are keeping brick...will still watch but numb from last year untill i see results. The 23' FA plan sounds completely delusional


It seems to me they had no plan. If they were going to try to re-up LeBron then they should have moved Westbrook long ago to make the roster functional. If they were not going to re-up LeBron they should have hit a full reset and traded everyone they could get anything for and trying to get the swap for their 1st with the Pelicans removed.

Instead they re-upped LeBron, kept Russ (and the picks), and brought in a bunch if medium players with some idea of "potential".

Pretty odd.


VERY odd indeed man. One would think that LeBron wouldnt sign that extension for just a repeat of last season...it felt like he did so given assurance from Rob that WB would be gone and both 1st used to try and maximize his contention window. Waiting till the deadline is insanely risky given that we could be out of even the playin race by then with how tough the scheduele starts off. We dont need 4 undersized guards mascarading as shooting guards.


It's just what the Lakers do. Did the same with Kobe, except Kobe didn't have an AD at the end. Just a bunch of fringe NBA players and immovable contracts. It seems it is more important to get their stars paid for their retirement tours as some sort of long term investment to lure future stars.
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Post#135 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:08 am

KingFox wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Wonder if nunn still going to be out … hmm or trade is going happen soon

Such a bizarre injury and situation. Maybe i just haven’t read up enough about it, but jeez

A very very deep bone bruise I guess
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Post#136 » by Pointgod » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:53 am

KingFox wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Wonder if nunn still going to be out … hmm or trade is going happen soon

Such a bizarre injury and situation. Maybe i just haven’t read up enough about it, but jeez


Dude’s knee was cooked last season. I’ve never heard of a bone bruise taking the whole season but he’s better now.
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Post#137 » by Eric Bieniemy » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:07 am

Ham is being soft if he doesn't start Anthony Davis at center.

James' best defensive position is PF. That means Davis needs to guard centers, and 1-3 can be guarded by the rest of their guys.

It's silly to keep repeating the idea that Davis will play PF because he doesn't like playing center. Last I checked, it's his job to listen to coach because the coach is supposed to know best.

A few years ago Robert Covington and PJ Tucker were the centers in Houston. Why? Because their coach told them to.

Davis and James must be the Lakers' two bigmen. To hell with Davis' feelings.
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Post#138 » by dockingsched » Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:20 am

Eric Bieniemy wrote:Ham is being soft if he doesn't start Anthony Davis at center.

James' best defensive position is PF. That means Davis needs to guard centers, and 1-3 can be guarded by the rest of their guys.

It's silly to keep repeating the idea that Davis will play PF because he doesn't like playing center. Last I checked, it's his job to listen to coach because the coach is supposed to know best.

A few years ago Robert Covington and PJ Tucker were the centers in Houston. Why? Because their coach told them to.

Davis and James must be the Lakers' two bigmen. To hell with Davis' feelings.


AD plays a ton of center, don’t be fooled by the irrelevant need to have him “start” at center. Last year 4 of his top 5 most common lineups were at center.
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Re: Schroder to Lakers for one year $2.64 million deal 

Post#139 » by Eric Bieniemy » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:01 pm

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Eric Bieniemy wrote:Ham is being soft if he doesn't start Anthony Davis at center.

James' best defensive position is PF. That means Davis needs to guard centers, and 1-3 can be guarded by the rest of their guys.

It's silly to keep repeating the idea that Davis will play PF because he doesn't like playing center. Last I checked, it's his job to listen to coach because the coach is supposed to know best.

A few years ago Robert Covington and PJ Tucker were the centers in Houston. Why? Because their coach told them to.

Davis and James must be the Lakers' two bigmen. To hell with Davis' feelings.


AD plays a ton of center, don’t be fooled by the irrelevant need to have him “start” at center. Last year 4 of his top 5 most common lineups were at center.

Last year, in particular, he played almost exclusively at center.

Davis is highly capable of guarding PFs, so that's not a problem. The problem is that him guarding PFs to begin games forces James to guard SFs.

LeBron James is damn near 40 years old and he's 6'9 275lbs. He should not be chasing wings around at all, even if it's just to begin games.

The Lakers will start Davis at PF not because it makes the team better, not because it maximizes the strengths of the roster and not because it somehow strengthens the bench.

The only reason Davis will start at center (and James at SF) is because of Davis' feelings. Capitulating to his feelings is weak, and if Darvin Ham yields he's soft. I hope Ham does what's right for the team, not Davis' emotions.
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Post#140 » by Eric Bieniemy » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:16 pm

Around the time when Lamarcus Aldridge signed in San Antonio he told all suitors (including the Lakers) that he didn't want to start as a center.

Popovich agreed to his terms and Aldridge was the starting PF for all of 2-3 months. The Spurs eventually made him their starting center. Why? Because they realized that Aldridge at 5 was best for their team. Period.

Popovich wasn't soft. He led his players and they followed.

Ham has an opportunity to truly lead this team. He's being ballyhooed as a tough, no-nonsense, highly-respected, up and coming coach. I see no better time than now to exercise the leverage he's gained since his hiring -- make Davis the starter at center, have James guard the second biggest guy on the floor, and while Ham is at, bring Westbrook off the bench as a backup PF/SF.

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