Curry or wade all time

triple_threat · Post #1 » by **triple_threat** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:46 pm

Who you got?

Roger Murdock · Post #2 » by **Roger Murdock** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:46 pm

Curry easily

rtiff68 · Post #3 » by **rtiff68** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:47 pm

What’s the argument for Wade?

jasonxxx102 · Post #4 » by **jasonxxx102** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:48 pm

Curry by 100 million light years

Magiclee · Post #5 » by **Magiclee** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:52 pm

Dwayne Wade was a great player... but this isn't in question.

lambchop · Post #6 » by **lambchop** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:54 pm

Just create a poll though.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #7 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:55 pm

Curry.

Im Your Father · Post #8 » by **Im Your Father** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:56 pm

I don't think Curry peaked appreciably higher (although that definitely seems to be a minority opinion on this board) but I don't see how this isn't Curry at this point. Wade just doesn't have the longevity at this point. He missed a few seasons during his absolute prime due to injury and then also was essentially done (again due to injury) as a dominant player by his 30th birthday.

No-more-rings · Post #9 » by **No-more-rings** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:04 pm

I have Wade for peak, but Curry is definitely higher all time at this point. Curry’s 4th title pretty much closed the window for debate imo.

jasonxxx102 · Post #10 » by **jasonxxx102** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:06 pm

Im Your Father wrote:I don't think Curry peaked appreciably higher (although that definitely seems to be a minority opinion on this board) but I don't see how this isn't Curry at this point. Wade just doesn't have the longevity at this point. He missed a few seasons during his absolute prime due to injury and then also was essentially done (again due to injury) as a dominant player by his 30th birthday.

Is this because Curry is generally regarded as a below average defender?

JJ_PR · Post #11 » by **JJ_PR** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:10 pm

Curry. His resume speaks for itself.

1993Playoffs · Post #12 » by **1993Playoffs** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:12 pm

I’d still rather have a healthy prime Wade in the playoffs but Curry has passed Wade all time imo

LukaTheGOAT · Post #13 » by **LukaTheGOAT** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:38 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:
Im Your Father wrote:I don't think Curry peaked appreciably higher (although that definitely seems to be a minority opinion on this board) but I don't see how this isn't Curry at this point. Wade just doesn't have the longevity at this point. He missed a few seasons during his absolute prime due to injury and then also was essentially done (again due to injury) as a dominant player by his 30th birthday.

Is this because Curry is generally regarded as a below average defender?

Curry is seen generally anywhere from average to a good plus defender for at the PG position. The argument for Wade would be all-nba level defense with GOAT level rim protection at the guard spot. Also, the belied that Wade is generally more resilient against the strongest defenses than Curry.

jasonxxx102 · Post #14 » by **jasonxxx102** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:42 pm

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
Im Your Father wrote:I don't think Curry peaked appreciably higher (although that definitely seems to be a minority opinion on this board) but I don't see how this isn't Curry at this point. Wade just doesn't have the longevity at this point. He missed a few seasons during his absolute prime due to injury and then also was essentially done (again due to injury) as a dominant player by his 30th birthday.

Is this because Curry is generally regarded as a below average defender?

Curry is seen generally anywhere from average to a good plus defender for at the PG position. The argument for Wade would be all-nba level defense with GOAT level rim protection at the guard spot. Also, the belied that Wade is generally more resilient against the strongest defenses than Curry.

I definitely disagree that this is the general consensus. While I do agree that Curry is pretty much average defensively and decent as a team defender, that's definitely not shared amongst the masses

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #15 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:47 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:
Im Your Father wrote:I don't think Curry peaked appreciably higher (although that definitely seems to be a minority opinion on this board) but I don't see how this isn't Curry at this point. Wade just doesn't have the longevity at this point. He missed a few seasons during his absolute prime due to injury and then also was essentially done (again due to injury) as a dominant player by his 30th birthday.

Is this because Curry is generally regarded as a below average defender?

Which is a total myth. Relative to his position he's one of the better defenders, and unlike most star players he plays defense all game. He just can't guard savey & physical players like Kawhi or Harden. Guys like Westbrook, LeBron, Durant actually struggle against him because he understands how to use his teammates.

The fact that Curry plays hard on both sides of the ball all game, instead of coasting and having his teammates do the hard work, is highly under appreciated. I know they try and hide him and he's not usually taking on the best player, but at least he's putting in the work.

Imagine how much better other star players teams would be if they actually worked hard on both sides of the ball.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #16 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:38 pm

To me Wade is solidly in the 25-28 range while Curry is easily in the top 18 now. Maybe as high as like 12-13. Wade's prime just wasn't long enough for my tastes and even the years in his prime were semi marred with injuries and the years outside of it weren't that great either.

70sFan · Post #17 » by **70sFan** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:48 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
Im Your Father wrote:I don't think Curry peaked appreciably higher (although that definitely seems to be a minority opinion on this board) but I don't see how this isn't Curry at this point. Wade just doesn't have the longevity at this point. He missed a few seasons during his absolute prime due to injury and then also was essentially done (again due to injury) as a dominant player by his 30th birthday.

Is this because Curry is generally regarded as a below average defender?

Which is a total myth. Relative to his position he's one of the better defenders, and unlike most star players he plays defense all game. He just can't guard savey & physical players like Kawhi or Harden. Guys like Westbrook, LeBron, Durant actually struggle against him because he understands how to use his teammates.

The fact that Curry plays hard on both sides of the ball all game, instead of coasting and having his teammates do the hard work, is highly under appreciated. I know they try and hide him and he's not usually taking on the best player, but at least he's putting in the work.

Imagine how much better other star players teams would be if they actually worked hard on both sides of the ball.

You're talking like we have never seen stars playing hard on both sides of the court and Curry is some kind of outlier in this case...

jasonxxx102 · Post #18 » by **jasonxxx102** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:55 pm

Statistically their peaks are pretty close. Wade was totally dominant on both ends but I think Curry's shooting and floor gravity is what truly sets him apart.

Curry is a total game changer in the way that Wade never was. I mean, you're picking up Curry at half court because he's a threat to pull up from anywhere. He's an underrated ball handler too. Not to mention he's just as good off ball.

For me Curry's offense >>> Wade total package.

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #19 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:43 pm

70sFan wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
Is this because Curry is generally regarded as a below average defender?

Which is a total myth. Relative to his position he's one of the better defenders, and unlike most star players he plays defense all game. He just can't guard savey & physical players like Kawhi or Harden. Guys like Westbrook, LeBron, Durant actually struggle against him because he understands how to use his teammates.

The fact that Curry plays hard on both sides of the ball all game, instead of coasting and having his teammates do the hard work, is highly under appreciated. I know they try and hide him and he's not usually taking on the best player, but at least he's putting in the work.

Imagine how much better other star players teams would be if they actually worked hard on both sides of the ball.

You're talking like we have never seen stars playing hard on both sides of the court and Curry is some kind of outlier in this case...

Usually you don't see them working hard on both sides of the court, and the amount of work Curry puts in on both sides is an outlier.

70sFan · Post #20 » by **70sFan** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:46 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
70sFan wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Which is a total myth. Relative to his position he's one of the better defenders, and unlike most star players he plays defense all game. He just can't guard savey & physical players like Kawhi or Harden. Guys like Westbrook, LeBron, Durant actually struggle against him because he understands how to use his teammates.

The fact that Curry plays hard on both sides of the ball all game, instead of coasting and having his teammates do the hard work, is highly under appreciated. I know they try and hide him and he's not usually taking on the best player, but at least he's putting in the work.

Imagine how much better other star players teams would be if they actually worked hard on both sides of the ball.

You're talking like we have never seen stars playing hard on both sides of the court and Curry is some kind of outlier in this case...

Usually you don't see them working hard on both sides of the court, and the amount of work Curry puts in on both sides is an outlier.

I don't even have to go too far in time, because we live in an era when two-time MVP is actually a legit two-way player.