Ben Wallace/David West/Gerald Wallace/Manu/Nash

[Cubbies2120]

How would you see this team doing in 2022-2023 with all in their prime?

The front court has great defenders, while the back court has creative offensive players.

[Duffman100]

Yikes to the spacing. That would be their downfall.

Probably a 50 win team that doesn't make it past the 2nd round.

[Harry Garris]

Probably a play in team. I do think that Ben Wallace would be an incredible defensive player in today's era but this team is obviously lacking a lot offensively by playing 4 on 5 and not having great spacing.

[Cubbies2120]

Yikes to the spacing. That would be their downfall.

Probably a 45-50 win team that doesn't make it past the 2nd round (if that).

Who would be a player between the 20-50 range (at their position in NBA history) that you would replace one player with that would make it a viable team?

I'm using Lineups.com's rankings for this:
Center - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-nba-centers-of-all-time/
PF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-power-forwards-of-all-time/
SF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-small-forwards-all-time/
SG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/the-top-50-shooting-guards-of-all-time-mj-and-kobe-lead-the-pack/
PG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-point-guards-of-all-time/

[Cubbies2120]

Probably a play in team. I do think that Ben Wallace would be an incredible defensive player in today's era but this team is obviously lacking a lot offensively by playing 4 on 5 and not having great spacing.

Who would you replace (see my post right under yours) with a player in 20-50 range all time for his position to make it a viable team?

[Harry Garris]

Probably a play in team. I do think that Ben Wallace would be an incredible defensive player in today's era but this team is obviously lacking a lot offensively by playing 4 on 5 and not having great spacing.

Who would you replace (see my post right under yours) with a player in 20-50 range all time for his position to make it a viable team?

I'd slide Gerald Wallace to the 4 and then replace David West with Paul George

[Duffman100]

Yikes to the spacing. That would be their downfall.

Probably a 45-50 win team that doesn't make it past the 2nd round (if that).

Who would be a player between the 20-50 range (at their position in NBA history) that you would replace one player with that would make it a viable team?

I'm using Lineups.com's rankings for this:
Center - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-nba-centers-of-all-time/
PF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-power-forwards-of-all-time/
SF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-small-forwards-all-time/
SG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/the-top-50-shooting-guards-of-all-time-mj-and-kobe-lead-the-pack/
PG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-point-guards-of-all-time/

I’m assuming you’re looking at retired players and not Giannis? Ha

[Cubbies2120]

Yikes to the spacing. That would be their downfall.

Probably a 45-50 win team that doesn't make it past the 2nd round (if that).

Who would be a player between the 20-50 range (at their position in NBA history) that you would replace one player with that would make it a viable team?

I'm using Lineups.com's rankings for this:
Center - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-nba-centers-of-all-time/
PF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-power-forwards-of-all-time/
SF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-small-forwards-all-time/
SG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/the-top-50-shooting-guards-of-all-time-mj-and-kobe-lead-the-pack/
PG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-point-guards-of-all-time/

I’m assuming you’re looking at retired players and not Giannis? Ha

Yes, sorry! Didn't realize he's in the 20+ range still

[Duffman100]

Who would be a player between the 20-50 range (at their position in NBA history) that you would replace one player with that would make it a viable team?

I'm using Lineups.com's rankings for this:
Center - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-nba-centers-of-all-time/
PF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-power-forwards-of-all-time/
SF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-small-forwards-all-time/
SG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/the-top-50-shooting-guards-of-all-time-mj-and-kobe-lead-the-pack/
PG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-point-guards-of-all-time/

I’m assuming you’re looking at retired players and not Giannis? Ha

Yes, sorry! Didn't realize he's in the 20+ range still

I’d replace West with either Clifford Robinson or Antawn Jamison.

[pacers33]

I imagine Nash would be shooting more in this era, along with Manu. Starter Manu is like this mythical or maybe hypothetical top 1 shooting guard in the league in his prime. I always liked Gerald Wallace, guess he would be the lesser Shawn Marion for Nash. David West was a decent starting big. Ben Wallace is the scariest paint defender I have ever seen, personally. It's a really good team on paper that should totally win bigly but nobody on the team can floss dance or shoot from half court, so I'm thinking a second round exit at best sadly.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Gerald Wallace would be a PF in today's league. On this hypothetical teampn he'd be a sixth man macking up Wallace and West.

[Beethoven]

1st round exit

[scrabbarista]

Three Top 75 players, two of them with Top 50 talent, and two borderline All-Stars? 50 games? Second round?

Are peak Nash, Ginobili, Crash, and West worse than '04 Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and Sheed?

Ginobili would be the best player on the team, and Nash and Wallace would be flirting with if not winning All-NBA.

When I first scanned this group before opening the thread, I assumed it had something to do with the HoF.

Yeesh, did you people watch any of these guys in their primes?

I'm not going to say this team would crush everyone or would even be a guaranteed champion (the spacing would be a big problem, but one which a decent bench could alleviate)... but with a normal bench they'd be at least the equal of every team in the league today. They'd be, at minimum, in the top tier of contenders.

[Wall_To_Clips]

“Lack of spacing”.. I mean the backcourt would arguably be more efficient than peak Curry/Klay in the modern NBA. West is elite as pick and pop. I see zero spacing issues, and a nightmare two way team here. You have 3 really good defenders, 2 elite offensive talents at the guard spots. Two potential MVP candidates, one multi DPOY most likely.

Manu and Nash would be ABSURD as a playmaking duo. Imagine the shooting of Klay/Curry at their best, but with Luka level court vision…

[ShootersShoot]

Four all star level players in their prime and gerald wallace? They should be pretty good. Big Ben was a transcendent defensive talent, and nash/ginobli is one of the better starting backcourts of all time. West in his prime was a 2x all star so he will be a nice third option for them. Gerald wallace was a solid player and probably be the dunker/ versatile stopper role and should be a great compliment to nash's passing abilities (and ginobli's). If they can stay healthy I can see them just as good if not better than Nash's suns teams.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Likely at least a conference finals appearance, and the most fun team to watch in the league.
People are saying the fit is clunky because there aren't a bunch of 3-point shooters and iso guys like most teams in the league nowadays, but the collective BBIQ would likely be tops in the league. Assuming they have a good coach and a solid bench with some versatility, I think it would work just fine.

[Scalabrine]

Yikes to the spacing. That would be their downfall.

Probably a 45-50 win team that doesn't make it past the 2nd round (if that).

Who would be a player between the 20-50 range (at their position in NBA history) that you would replace one player with that would make it a viable team?

I'm using Lineups.com's rankings for this:
Center - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-nba-centers-of-all-time/
PF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-power-forwards-of-all-time/
SF - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-small-forwards-all-time/
SG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/the-top-50-shooting-guards-of-all-time-mj-and-kobe-lead-the-pack/
PG - https://www.lineups.com/articles/top-50-point-guards-of-all-time/

Paul George or Ron Artest instead of Gerald Wallace make this team elite.

[Capn'O]

“Lack of spacing”.. I mean the backcourt would arguably be more efficient than peak Curry/Klay in the modern NBA. West is elite as pick and pop. I see zero spacing issues, and a nightmare two way team here. You have 3 really good defenders, 2 elite offensive talents at the guard spots. Two potential MVP candidates, one multi DPOY most likely.

Manu and Nash would be ABSURD as a playmaking duo. Imagine the shooting of Klay/Curry at their best, but with Luka level court vision…

Agree with this. I see a contender. The likely midseason move would be to put Crash on the bench and start a 3-D wing with Crash backing the 3-4 and getting roughly 30 minutes overall. Then ensure you have a stretch 4 on the bench.

[UcanUwill]

This team would be sick, get out with first, second round exits.

[DAWill1128]

Probably win it all. All five of these guys made the all-star team. Nash as the best offensive engine of thar time period, Wallace as the best interior defender of that time period. Team would be excellent on the boards and on defense. Plus Manu has complete freedom to go iso in crunch situations.