Shams: Anthony Edwards Fined $40K for “Derogatory Language”

[Wooderson]

This worse than what Meyers said?

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

To me what Edward's said was worse. Leonard's antisemitic word drop was at least a heat of the moment reaction. Edward's took the time to film and post to the world solely for the purpose of saying something ****.

And to those who think it was just the word queer that got him in hot water, he said "look what the world done come to". That in and of itself is worse than any single word could be imo. It's a there goes the neighborhood type rant. Incredibly offensive.

[Pointgod]

Didn’t Dems just put the first black woman ever on scotus? Seems like one side is trying compared to the other

The only way Republicans can defend their love for racism is to gaslight people into believing the party with way more people of color is supposedly racist. The context of the quote is entirely meaningless considering that it’s referencing the state of the country close to 60 years ago.

The quote is literally about white liberal politicians not the democrat party of 2022.

It’s as true today as it was back then

How can white Liberal politicians be both too woke and also racist as Conservative politicians? That doesn’t make sense

[jasonxxx102]

The only way Republicans can defend their love for racism is to gaslight people into believing the party with way more people of color is supposedly racist. The context of the quote is entirely meaningless considering that it’s referencing the state of the country close to 60 years ago.

The quote is literally about white liberal politicians not the democrat party of 2022.

It’s as true today as it was back then

How can white Liberal politicians be both too woke and also racist as Conservative politicians? That doesn’t make sense

Nobody said that. I don’t think you quite understand the premise

[YourBuddy]

Malcolm X on liberals

“The white liberal differs from the white conservative in one way. The liberal is more deceitful and hypocritical than the conservatives. Both want power. But, the white liberal has perfected the art of posing as the negro’s (sic) friend and benefactor.” He accused the liberals of using the black Americans as ‘political pawns’ in their political struggle against the conservatives.

“The American negro is nothing but a political football and the white liberals control this ball. Through tricks, tokenism, and false promises of integration and civil rights…,” he remarked.

The issue with this statement is it is out of date. The political landscape of liberals and conservatives have shifted over the past 60+ years.

One of the main shifts since the 1950s and 1960s is all of the Hard-Core White Christians who were once considered Liberal are now almost unanimously Conservative and many some of Trumps biggest supporters.

ha ha hilarious. a few more black people have been allowed to integrate into the professional managerial class is basically the only shift. it would be a very hard argument to make that african-americans en masse are actually better off now than they were then. truly talented, uniquely gifted black people certainly have more opportunities than they did during the 60s. but what about just regular people? the problem with the meritocratic 'race blind' ideal that liberals so devoutly believe in is that it's still typically rooted in socioeconomic privilege, but the fact that a handful of racial minorities from impoverished backgrounds can, i dunno, go to harvard and become a MD isn't really a measuring stick of progress. unfortunately, this process naturalizes the idea that if you start off poor and are of average intellect, you deserve to remain poor because you're not smart enough to deserve a middle class lifestyle

Oddly left out that Malcolm X thought conservatives were honest in believing black people were beneath them. Oddly enough conservatives also nominated Barry Goldwater for president who opposed the civil rights act of 1964 because he thought white people should be able to discriminate against the hiring and employment of black people.

[YourBuddy]

The only way Republicans can defend their love for racism is to gaslight people into believing the party with way more people of color is supposedly racist. The context of the quote is entirely meaningless considering that it’s referencing the state of the country close to 60 years ago.

The quote is literally about white liberal politicians not the democrat party of 2022.

It’s as true today as it was back then

How can white Liberal politicians be both too woke and also racist as Conservative politicians? That doesn’t make sense

The same people quoting Malcolm X would be okay removing teachings of Malcolm X from schools if a white kid felt offended. Don’t take these people seriously. They are the same ones who only use one quote from MLK to try to end black people being hired.

[Crazy-Canuck]

This worse than what Meyers said?

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

Ants actions were much worse. Meyers said something stupid without thinking.

Ant knew exactly what he was saying. So much so, that he stopped his car, rolled down his window, took a video of the group of people minding their own business, and posted it on social media.

[MemphisX]

Queer is derogatory to the lbgtQ community?

[Nate505]

Queer is derogatory to the lbgtQ community?

Is that what the Q stands for? I thought it was "Questioning"

Plus, queer itself doesn't seem to have a universally positive or negative connotation. It depends on the circumstance in which it is used. I don't believe someone calling someone queer with disdain is a positive connotation, but that's just me.

[turnaroundJ]

It was pretty disappointing and I agree with some that it’s actually worse than Leonard’s (you just can’t insult the NBA’s Jew owners lol) but he’s just a kid and was probably trying to look cool to his circle or was high or something. He’ll probably not do it again and they probably made sure to fine him so he won’t. He’s got a long career ahead and the NBA still needs to market him hard as a future star. I’ll still watch Ant and wolves games.

[Pointgod]

This worse than what Meyers said?

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

To me what Edward's said was worse. Leonard's antisemitic word drop was at least a heat of the moment reaction. Edward's took the time to film and post to the world solely for the purpose of saying something ****.

And to those who think it was just the word queer that got him in hot water, he said "look what the world done come to". That in and of itself is worse than any single word could be imo. It's a there goes the neighborhood type rant. Incredibly offensive.

I don’t disagree with you hear. Everyone will have different interpretations of the degree of seriousness when comparing different cases. Not going to judge your personal feelings in the different situations. What Leonard provides though is a hard line in that he used a racial slur while Edwards was definitely mean spirited and homophobic but again open to interpretation since he didn’t use a clear slur. You can compare it to Rondo who directed a clear homophobic slur at a gay ref during a game, aka at work. He was fined and suspended a game for that. It just shows that a clear racial slur seems to be a simple line to draw, but I’m not going to cape for Edwards here.

[Battletrigger]

Here there are people that gets offended too easy.

Can someone remember me the fine or suspension that Harrel Montrezl had when called Doncic "bitch ass White boy" in the middle of a basketball PO game? I looked for it in Google and almost I didn't find anything related with that incident.

These days it seems that only the minorities can insult, and man, if what he said it's not a crime( I don't know, I don't know anything about USA laws), it's cause the government doesn't consider so important.

I know people is too bored and like to judge people while nobody knows their lives but it's ridiculous what I have read about this incident.

[jazzed77]

This worse than what Meyers said?

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

I think what Ant did was worse bc like some have mentioned, his wasn't some stupid trash talking in the heat of the moment like Meyers. I actually don't have an issue with the fines, my issue is the fact that Meyers' career ended over his comment.

[Pointgod]

The quote is literally about white liberal politicians not the democrat party of 2022.

It’s as true today as it was back then

How can white Liberal politicians be both too woke and also racist as Conservative politicians? That doesn’t make sense

Nobody said that. I don’t think you quite understand the premise

I understand the premise. It’s just completely stupid considering the context that Malcolm X was saying it in can’t directly apply to 60 years later. For all their faults White Liberals would actually vote for policies that help black people while Conservative politicians block policies that help or implement policies that actively hurt black people.

[Wooderson]

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

To me what Edward's said was worse. Leonard's antisemitic word drop was at least a heat of the moment reaction. Edward's took the time to film and post to the world solely for the purpose of saying something ****.

And to those who think it was just the word queer that got him in hot water, he said "look what the world done come to". That in and of itself is worse than any single word could be imo. It's a there goes the neighborhood type rant. Incredibly offensive.

I don’t disagree with you hear. Everyone will have different interpretations of the degree of seriousness when comparing different cases. Not going to judge your personal feelings in the different situations. What Leonard provides though is a hard line in that he used a racial slur while Edwards was definitely mean spirited and homophobic but again open to interpretation since he didn’t use a clear slur. You can compare it to Rondo who directed a clear homophobic slur at a gay ref during a game, aka at work. He was fined and suspended a game for that. It just shows that a clear racial slur seems to be a simple line to draw, but I’m not going to cape for Edwards here.

Is saying "look at what the world done came to" after what he first said really open to interpretation? He's clearly implying LGBTQ existing in the world in public is a bad thing. How else can it be interpreted?

[WolfAddict]

Here there are people that gets offended too easy.

Can someone remember me the fine or suspension that Harrel Montrezl had when called Doncic "bitch ass White boy" in the middle of a basketball PO game? I looked for it in Google and almost I didn't find anything related with that incident.

These days it seems that only the minorities can insult, and man, if what he said it's not a crime( I don't know, I don't know anything about USA laws), it's cause the government doesn't consider so important.

I know people is too bored and like to judge people while nobody knows their lives but it's ridiculous what I have read about this incident.

Yeah, because "bitch ass white boys" have been ridiculed and hated on for generations...

Give yourself an uppercut for me bro

[jasonxxx102]

Here there are people that gets offended too easy.

Can someone remember me the fine or suspension that Harrel Montrezl had when called Doncic "bitch ass White boy" in the middle of a basketball PO game? I looked for it in Google and almost I didn't find anything related with that incident.

These days it seems that only the minorities can insult, and man, if what he said it's not a crime( I don't know, I don't know anything about USA laws), it's cause the government doesn't consider so important.

I know people is too bored and like to judge people while nobody knows their lives but it's ridiculous what I have read about this incident.

Do you really not understand the difference?

[Pointgod]

This worse than what Meyers said?

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

I think what Ant did was worse bc like some have mentioned, his wasn't some stupid trash talking in the heat of the moment like Meyers. I actually don't have an issue with the fines, my issue is the fact that Meyers' career ended over his comment.

Meyers Leonard’s career ended because he sucks not over the comment.

[jasonxxx102]

How can white Liberal politicians be both too woke and also racist as Conservative politicians? That doesn’t make sense

Nobody said that. I don’t think you quite understand the premise

I understand the premise. It’s just completely stupid considering the context that Malcolm X was saying it in can’t directly apply to 60 years later. For all their faults White Liberals would actually vote for policies that help black people while Conservative politicians block policies that help or implement policies that actively hurt black people.

Would they REALLY vote for said policies? Or is that something that just sounds really good every couple years leading up to elections?

[Pointgod]

To me what Edward's said was worse. Leonard's antisemitic word drop was at least a heat of the moment reaction. Edward's took the time to film and post to the world solely for the purpose of saying something ****.

And to those who think it was just the word queer that got him in hot water, he said "look what the world done come to". That in and of itself is worse than any single word could be imo. It's a there goes the neighborhood type rant. Incredibly offensive.

I don’t disagree with you hear. Everyone will have different interpretations of the degree of seriousness when comparing different cases. Not going to judge your personal feelings in the different situations. What Leonard provides though is a hard line in that he used a racial slur while Edwards was definitely mean spirited and homophobic but again open to interpretation since he didn’t use a clear slur. You can compare it to Rondo who directed a clear homophobic slur at a gay ref during a game, aka at work. He was fined and suspended a game for that. It just shows that a clear racial slur seems to be a simple line to draw, but I’m not going to cape for Edwards here.

Is saying "look at what the world done came to" after what he first said really open to interpretation? He's clearly implying LGBTQ existing in the world in public is a bad thing. How else can it be interpreted?

Like I said I’m not here to defend Edwards. His perspective is similar to a lot of people that claim they’re fine with LGBTQ community, but they don’t like seeing it out in the open. Which is still wrong because people are just living their lives. If he has said another word and we all know which one in reference to those men then it’s easier for the NBA to draw a line into suspension which is consistent with other incidents. Make no mistake if the NBA suspended him I’d have no problem with him because I’m not defending what Edwards said or somehow minimize it. I’m just providing context regarding what Leonard said regardless of intent or if he was mad (that’s no excuse) because it was a pretty clear racial slur.

[Nuntius]

This worse than what Meyers said?

Myers Leonard literally used a racist slur against Jewish people. I assume if Anthony Edwards had used a blatantly homophobic slur (we all know which one) I’d assume the penalty would be more severe. Besides Leonard wasn’t black balled, he just wasn’t good enough to get resigned for the trouble it’s worth.

I think what Ant did was worse bc like some have mentioned, his wasn't some stupid trash talking in the heat of the moment like Meyers. I actually don't have an issue with the fines, my issue is the fact that Meyers' career ended over his comment.

His career didn't end over this comment. What people often forget to mention is that the whole reason why Meyers Leonard was streaming on Twitch during the NBA season instead of playing is that he was out after having a season-ending surgery. And then a couple of months later, he had another surgery on a different part of his body. Here's an article talking about it and quoting Leonard himself.

Meyers Leonard's first year with Miami in 2019 was arguably the best of his career.

He had the most starts of his career (49), most rebounds (5.1), third-most assists (1.1) and second-most points (6.1). Leonard only played three games in the 2020-21 season after getting season-ending surgery on his left shoulder.

Leonard was then suspended from the NBA in March of 2021 for using an Anti-Semitic slur during a livestream on the Twitch gaming service. The Heat later traded him to Oklahoma City.

Since, he has been quiet in the NBA world, with many believing that it was his suspension keeping him out of the light. However, Leonard spoke about his battle with injuries on Twitter.

“God is good,” Leonard said in the tweet. “People often say that everything in life happens for a reason. My health. Physically, mentally, and emotionally were all at an all-time low over the last 12+ months. But, that’s life. It’s time to lock back in. With immense gratitude, God Bless you all!”

Leonard had surgery on his right ankle in April of 2021, but it was unlike the normal procedures. There was nerve damage within the bottom half of his right leg and was presented with the possibility of never playing basketball again.

However, he was able to regain his form through rehabilitation and training. Leonard stated that he will be back to 100% in a few months and says that teams have been reaching out to him.

“As everybody in the room knows, there’s plenty of NBA teams who want me and that I could be playing for right now,” Leonard said in the Chicago Tribune interview. “I’m just not healthy enough. Did the incident help my case? No. But this time to heal? Yes.”

Here is the link to the above article -> https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-news/miami-heat-meyers-leonard-wants-back-in-nba

The idea that Leonard's comments cost him his career is not based in reality. The reality is that Leonard has not been healthy enough to play all this time. Even if he never made any of these comments, he still wouldn't have played a minute of basketball.