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celtxman wrote:I don't think I'm alone in wondering why this surgery wasn't done in late June or early July, and wondering if anything else was made worse by coming back so fast.
It may end up he will never really be healthy, and should the team look at their big man roster differently.
WTF. Why now? Why not in June or July?
WHAT DID THE DOCTORS NOT ADDRESS WHEN THEY DID SURGERY LAST SPRING?????????
C'mom people, give us something, even if it's a tweet. Explain this mess.
Between Gallinari and Rob,
Tatum and Al ain't gonna get any rest.
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Baffling how they always wait for no reason that I'm aware of..
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Next man up until Rob is back. It opens up an opportunity for our 3 inexperienced bigs, Kornet included in that 3.
Also Dwight would be good for 15-20 minutes.
Also Dwight would be good for 15-20 minutes.
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Celticfan_N_FL wrote:Great talent but injury prone. It sucks for him and the team.
Is it the first injury in his career?
Maybe he exacerbated it trying to come back early.
The other part is, he has great mobility and can cover a lot of distance on the court, which makes him such a great defensive player. But if he's sprinting from the 3 point line to the paint for vice versa, maybe that makes him more vulnerable, especially with his length.
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In the prime of his life his body misses 40-60 games a season.
We need Dwight or someone else who can provide some rebounding and rim protection.
And if by some miracle Rob Williams looks like he's healthy a month out to... even two month out of the playoffs.... shut him down. Keep the condition going in practice, but put those ligaments of his on bedrest and give his body at least a month off. If he can entere the playoffs fully healthy he only needs the first, maybe somewhere in the second round to fully regain his basketball timing on defense at worst.
But between Robert Williams and Al Horford we need Centers and Power forwards on this team in bunches. Or someone to eat up minutes. And then we need to hope we can get them to February healthy and start to just rest their bodies for when having them on the court fully healthy and not worn down ACTUALLY matters, the playoffs.
We need Dwight or someone else who can provide some rebounding and rim protection.
And if by some miracle Rob Williams looks like he's healthy a month out to... even two month out of the playoffs.... shut him down. Keep the condition going in practice, but put those ligaments of his on bedrest and give his body at least a month off. If he can entere the playoffs fully healthy he only needs the first, maybe somewhere in the second round to fully regain his basketball timing on defense at worst.
But between Robert Williams and Al Horford we need Centers and Power forwards on this team in bunches. Or someone to eat up minutes. And then we need to hope we can get them to February healthy and start to just rest their bodies for when having them on the court fully healthy and not worn down ACTUALLY matters, the playoffs.

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wco81 wrote:Celticfan_N_FL wrote:Great talent but injury prone. It sucks for him and the team.
Is it the first injury in his career?
Maybe he exacerbated it trying to come back early.
The other part is, he has great mobility and can cover a lot of distance on the court, which makes him such a great defensive player. But if he's sprinting from the 3 point line to the paint for vice versa, maybe that makes him more vulnerable, especially with his length.
He's a potential top 10 pick talent and was mocked there that was picked at the end of the first round because his body was a red flag in the draft profile as well as being a mental dumbass.
All those potentials were proven true post draft which of all of them being a top 10 draft talent outweighs the bad.
But the guy misses 40-60 games a year (not an exaggeration it just seems like it is one) as a young 20 something, his body wasn't made to be here for a long time.

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celticfan42487 wrote:wco81 wrote:Celticfan_N_FL wrote:Great talent but injury prone. It sucks for him and the team.
Is it the first injury in his career?
Maybe he exacerbated it trying to come back early.
The other part is, he has great mobility and can cover a lot of distance on the court, which makes him such a great defensive player. But if he's sprinting from the 3 point line to the paint for vice versa, maybe that makes him more vulnerable, especially with his length.
He's a potential top 10 pick talent and was mocked there that was picked at the end of the first round because his body was a red flag in the draft profile as well as being a mental dumbass.
All those potentials were proven true post draft which of all of them being a top 10 draft talent outweighs the bad.
But the guy misses 40-60 games a year (not an exaggeration it just seems like it is one) as a young 20 something, his body wasn't made to be here for a long time.
It is an exaggeration. He missed 21 reg season games last year. The year before that he missed 20 reg season games.
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Why did he wait until September to have the surgery? Was he injured working out?
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Curmudgeon wrote:Why did he wait until September to have the surgery? Was he injured working out?
Actually it was reported that Rob had ISSUES AFTER SURGERY last spring. So, it's probably not a new issue, but something that they waited to address, for whatever reason. My concern is what the heck did those doctors miss the first go around. There is such a thing as grasping the situation, and tackling it in its entirety. Last spring's surgery NOW sounds like a patch job and may not have have addressed the real issue.
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Hal14 wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:wco81 wrote:
Is it the first injury in his career?
Maybe he exacerbated it trying to come back early.
The other part is, he has great mobility and can cover a lot of distance on the court, which makes him such a great defensive player. But if he's sprinting from the 3 point line to the paint for vice versa, maybe that makes him more vulnerable, especially with his length.
He's a potential top 10 pick talent and was mocked there that was picked at the end of the first round because his body was a red flag in the draft profile as well as being a mental dumbass.
All those potentials were proven true post draft which of all of them being a top 10 draft talent outweighs the bad.
But the guy misses 40-60 games a year (not an exaggeration it just seems like it is one) as a young 20 something, his body wasn't made to be here for a long time.
It is an exaggeration. He missed 21 reg season games last year. The year before that he missed 20 reg season games.
Hmm yes, don't know what the hell I was on about
50 games missed
53 games missed
30 games missed
21 games missed
Trend has been going down lately after his first two years of missing most of the NBA seasons.
Regardless I know teams don't do this but I still would put his body on rest if he can make it to 1-2 months away from the start of the playoffs fully healthy.
Tailor your strategy for the body he has. Let the legs rest, let his body recover how it can.
Then let him shake off the rust against some trash team in the first round with ease and unleash him when we need him fully healthy with fresh legs in rounds 2 and hopefully 3 and 4.

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Yeah Steven's got a plan for that..
Malpractice if he didn't (but he does).
Bruno was released too.
Something coming right.
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Crazy stuff. We're suddenly super thin in the frontcourt. I really hope this will not linger all year.
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Jammer wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:Why did he wait until September to have the surgery? Was he injured working out?
Actually it was reported that Rob had ISSUES AFTER SURGERY last spring. So, it's probably not a new issue, but something that they waited to address, for whatever reason. My concern is what the heck did those doctors miss the first go around. There is such a thing as grasping the situation, and tackling it in its entirety. Last spring's surgery NOW sounds like a patch job and may not have have addressed the real issue.
I'm with you Guys. This is ridiculous. He should have had this better surgery, right after the Playoffs.
Sounds like maybe he should have just went with the long-term surgery, from the get-go?
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celticfan42487 wrote:Hal14 wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:
He's a potential top 10 pick talent and was mocked there that was picked at the end of the first round because his body was a red flag in the draft profile as well as being a mental dumbass.
All those potentials were proven true post draft which of all of them being a top 10 draft talent outweighs the bad.
But the guy misses 40-60 games a year (not an exaggeration it just seems like it is one) as a young 20 something, his body wasn't made to be here for a long time.
It is an exaggeration. He missed 21 reg season games last year. The year before that he missed 20 reg season games.
Hmm yes, don't know what the hell I was on about
50 games missed
53 games missed
30 games missed
21 games missed
Trend has been going down lately after his first two years of missing most of the NBA seasons.
Regardless I know teams don't do this but I still would put his body on rest if he can make it to 1-2 months away from the start of the playoffs fully healthy.
Tailor your strategy for the body he has. Let the legs rest, let his body recover how it can.
Then let him shake off the rust against some trash team in the first round with ease and unleash him when we need him fully healthy with fresh legs in rounds 2 and hopefully 3 and 4.
I don't believe all those games he missed in his rookie year were from injury. He had at least 20 DNPs.
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celticfan42487 wrote:In the prime of his life his body misses 40-60 games a season.
We need Dwight or someone else who can provide some rebounding and rim protection.
And if by some miracle Rob Williams looks like he's healthy a month out to... even two month out of the playoffs.... shut him down. Keep the condition going in practice, but put those ligaments of his on bedrest and give his body at least a month off. If he can entere the playoffs fully healthy he only needs the first, maybe somewhere in the second round to fully regain his basketball timing on defense at worst.
But between Robert Williams and Al Horford we need Centers and Power forwards on this team in bunches. Or someone to eat up minutes. And then we need to hope we can get them to February healthy and start to just rest their bodies for when having them on the court fully healthy and not worn down ACTUALLY matters, the playoffs.
It’s just sad that the team have to resort to this. Imagine load managing your 24 yr old center lol. Even if we hold him out till the playoffs, there is no certain he can make it the whole run with out getting injured. I think if he can’t be fully healthy after recovering from this, the team should already move on from him. Team chemistry is also being affected by this. Team needs continuity with the rotations to be a potent team on both ends.
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Going into the off season I thought our frontcourt and especially the back up center position was our biggest need. Everyone knows rob is injury prone and Al is getting older. Counting on Luke Kornet or a couple of washed out bigs like Noah Vonley or Bruno to fill in is risky at best and malpractice by Brad at worst. granted, galinari was going to take some of the big minutes but still it should have been a bigger priority. releasing Bruno at the start of camp can only mean they have something in mind. Otherwise why would you release a potentially serviceable big on the same day that you announce Rob will be out 6-8 weeks. The only other thing I can think of is that Bruno got himself in some sort of trouble or proved to be a difficult teammate. The lack of a legitimate big man goes back to Brad starting here as a coach. He wants bigs who can shoot the 3 but the reason rob helped us so much was that he protected the rim and was the back stop for our defense. Without him we are an ordinary defensive team. With him we are a great defensive team. We were fortunate last year to have so few injuries but his year looks like we are back to losing guys for multiple games. It’s really hard to get to the finals which is why losing last year when we could have won sucks so hard.
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celticfan42487 wrote:Hal14 wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:
He's a potential top 10 pick talent and was mocked there that was picked at the end of the first round because his body was a red flag in the draft profile as well as being a mental dumbass.
All those potentials were proven true post draft which of all of them being a top 10 draft talent outweighs the bad.
But the guy misses 40-60 games a year (not an exaggeration it just seems like it is one) as a young 20 something, his body wasn't made to be here for a long time.
It is an exaggeration. He missed 21 reg season games last year. The year before that he missed 20 reg season games.
Hmm yes, don't know what the hell I was on about
50 games missed
53 games missed
30 games missed
21 games missed
Trend has been going down lately after his first two years of missing most of the NBA seasons.
Regardless I know teams don't do this but I still would put his body on rest if he can make it to 1-2 months away from the start of the playoffs fully healthy.
Tailor your strategy for the body he has. Let the legs rest, let his body recover how it can.
Then let him shake off the rust against some trash team in the first round with ease and unleash him when we need him fully healthy with fresh legs in rounds 2 and hopefully 3 and 4.
20 games missed in 2020-2021 season. There was only 72 games that season - not 82. There was also 72 games in 2019-2020 season so he missed 43 games that year - NOT 53 as you posted.
also, many of his games missed were due to COVID and non-COVID related illnesses. Some were due to personal reasons - either having a baby (he's had 2 during his career now) or close family/friends passing away.
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For a team based in the medical mecca of the US, this team has had some blunders when it comes to treating players. Medicine is of course complex and every case is different. Not a great look though
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