Offseason thread vol 9 - RUN IT BYK

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Olynyk traded to Utah for Bogdan

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Ainge reunites with KO.

[AirP.]

You are right i should not have used the word Max salary. He is making more than what he Should be worth. He is definitely taking a big chunk out of our cap space. Dont be surprised if Yurt makes a big leap this season and becomes our starting center by midseason. Unforgivable what Spo did to this guy last season.

See my next post following the one you quoted above about Bams contract in relation to other players, you’re so far off

As in starting over Bam lol?

Whats so far fetched about it? Must i remind you the numbers he was putting up when Bam and company were injured? Rebounding wise numbers the league have not seen since Shaq. Bam is a complementary player making star money, he will never be the guy to build around. He doesnt have the mentality to overcome his lack of natural scoring, like Jimmy for example

I do get what you're saying offensively, but that's only half the game. Basically Bam is the defensive system for Miami, he allows the whole team to switch on anyone. Gobert is somewhat in the same situation being a defensive system without much offense and look what it took for Minnesota to acquire him. The problem with defensive players is that they don't have a somewhat simple to point at stat like PPG to show a lot of their value at that end.

If you want to win a championship either you have to have an incredible offense and decent defense or incredible defense with decent offense, Miami has the incredible defense, just keep working on finding some more consistent offense.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Olynyk traded to Utah for Bogdan

Ainge looking to cut salary here saves 5 million and gets a player he likes who’s a returning expiring. Detroit gets a vet swing shooter.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

You are right i should not have used the word Max salary. He is making more than what he Should be worth. He is definitely taking a big chunk out of our cap space. Dont be surprised if Yurt makes a big leap this season and becomes our starting center by midseason. Unforgivable what Spo did to this guy last season.

See my next post following the one you quoted above about Bams contract in relation to other players, you’re so far off

As in starting over Bam lol?

Whats so far fetched about it? Must i remind you the numbers he was putting up when Bam and company were injured? Rebounding wise numbers the league have not seen since Shaq. Bam is a complementary player making star money, he will never be the guy to build around. He doesnt have the mentality to overcome his lack of natural scoring, like Jimmy for example

If we bench Bam for Yurt this year I’ll literally sign all my real estate over to you that is super far fetched, you gotta be trolling

[3ammy3uck3ts]

An efficient 19 PPG from the best defender in the world just isn’t good enough for some of you that’s wild to me.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Detroit at least he didn’t go help the Celtics or someone.

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To me it seems like someone in the celtics front office had interest in the same woman and udoka got her, or they both shared her in different instances. Because honestly, a full season suspension is overboard. So theres some reacting jealousy involved here

Spo met his wife from the Heat dance team.. she had to quit to make it allowable per the team’s policy and i believe nba policy too.

Who knows? Nia could of found out and reported it. Most relationships start in the workplace, most employees know and is cool about it until there is just one thats not. Nia could have reported it. It may have gotten out of hand and not been discreet any longer.

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[AirP.]

Olynyk traded to Utah for Bogdan

Ainge looking to cut salary here saves 5 million and gets a player he likes who’s a returning expiring. Detroit gets a vet swing shooter.

If Miami wants off Robinson's contract while also creating some space to sign another player, they could work with Utah on a Olynyk/Robinson, save enough money and use the extra money to sign a 15th player if they like someone.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

All i know is if we do have Herro in the future plans we are going to have to shed some contracts. Not only Herro but Strus, Oladipo, and Vincent are also up coming free agents. We are currently already up against the cap to the dollar so signing Herro alone to 30 per puts the team well into the tax next year even with the increase.

Something Arison probably has no interest in unless he sees a guaranteed championship contender which we are not. Lowry and Robinson are going to have to be shipped off for expiring's one way or another or the other option is trading Herro for a cost controlled prospect and pics for a team that wants to extend him.

Only teams with space next year would have any remote interest in a deal of that nature for Herro. Anybody trading for Herro has to plan on adding 30 million to the sheet next year. Something has to give before the deadline. The organization could risk losing a bunch of players by saddling themselves to one more year of Lowry who will turn 38 at 30 mil and Robinson at 18 million.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Olynyk traded to Utah for Bogdan

Ainge looking to cut salary here saves 5 million and gets a player he likes who’s a returning expiring. Detroit gets a vet swing shooter.

If Miami wants off Robinson's contract while also creating some space to sign another player, they could work with Utah on a Olynyk/Robinson, save enough money and use the extra money to sign a 15th player if they like someone.

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Utah does not want Robinson. They are clearly now trying to get below the tax. They would be adding all that money they just saved in a deal like that.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If the Heat viewed Herro as a major piece for the future and were confident in that he would’ve already been extended awhile ago. It’s really that simple. They don’t want to throw away the opportunity to get a Derozan type if they become mad and want out. Don’t extend him and if we decide to keep him just match his cheaper, shorter offer sheet next summer.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Udoka likely out for the season Woj just said

[AirP.]

All i know is if we do have Herro in the future plans we are going to have to shed some contracts. Not only Herro but Strus, Oladipo, and Vincent are also up coming free agents. We are currently already up against the cap to the dollar so signing Herro alone to 30 per puts the team well into the tax next year even with the increase.

Something Arison probably has no interest in unless he sees a guaranteed championship contender which we are not. Lowry and Robinson are going to have to be shipped off for expiring's one way or another or the other option is trading Herro for a cost controlled prospect and pics for a team that wants to extend him.

Only teams with space next year would have any remote interest in a deal of that nature for Herro. Anybody trading for Herro has to plan on adding 30 million to the sheet next year. Something has got to give before the deadline.

Also take in consideration Riley's age and him wanting another title, he has a very limited window at 77. He's not wanting to do a huge move like rebuilding, it's way more complicated then people think.

The people talking about trading Butler or even Lowry next year haven't realized that it's highly probable that you're getting a bulk of their salary's back in trade which doesn't fix the salary situation for next year and possibly beyond WHILE having to pay players like Herro, Oladipo, Strus, Vincent and Yurtseven their next contract. I don't know how Miami even stays under the cap next year if they extend Herro, and if this team falls behind this year because other teams have gotten better that's a horrible position to be as an owner, you're now talking about rebuilding around Bam and Herro while in the tax while having to send out assets to get under the tax for at least a year starting next season(Lowry comes off the books in 2 seasons).

[MettaWorldPanda]

If the Heat viewed Herro as a major piece for the future and were confident in that he would’ve already been extended awhile ago. It’s really that simple. They don’t want to throw away the opportunity to get a Derozan type if they become mad and want out. Don’t extend him and if we decide to keep him just match his cheaper, shorter offer sheet next summer.

It’s not that simple with Herro unless they are able to get off Lowry and Robinson’s deal. Micky is going to have a massive tax bill gun to his head one way or another. There’s no in between here. A trade needs to be made whether to accomdate Herro’s salary next year or he’s traded with Lowry or Robinson of both before the deadline.

[AirP.]

If the Heat viewed Herro as a major piece for the future and were confident in that he would’ve already been extended awhile ago. It’s really that simple. They don’t want to throw away the opportunity to get a Derozan type if they become mad and want out. Don’t extend him and if we decide to keep him just match his cheaper, shorter offer sheet next summer.

It’s not that simple with Herro unless they are able to get off Lowry and Robinson’s deal. Micky is going to have a massive tax bill gun to his head one way or another. There’s no in between here. A trade needs to be made whether to accomdate Herro’s salary next year or he’s traded with Lowry or Robinson of both before the deadline.

Not just get off their deals but not bring back anywhere near their salary next year, basically trading either/both for expiring contracts... and teams may want Miami to toss in assets in helping them do that. Consolidation is really the only good move forward, get someone who is on a multiyear contract making what a number of cheap players plus Robinson make this year.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s fun seeing all this happen to the Celtics but they’ll still have internal development and added a very good rotation player in Brogdon. We missed the finals by 1 shot but I know we all remember they were kicking our ass majority of the series, blew the doors off of us multiple times and were smacking us in game 7 until they let their foot off the gas and we hit some wild shots.

[MettaWorldPanda]

All i know is if we do have Herro in the future plans we are going to have to shed some contracts. Not only Herro but Strus, Oladipo, and Vincent are also up coming free agents. We are currently already up against the cap to the dollar so signing Herro alone to 30 per puts the team well into the tax next year even with the increase.

Something Arison probably has no interest in unless he sees a guaranteed championship contender which we are not. Lowry and Robinson are going to have to be shipped off for expiring's one way or another or the other option is trading Herro for a cost controlled prospect and pics for a team that wants to extend him.

Only teams with space next year would have any remote interest in a deal of that nature for Herro. Anybody trading for Herro has to plan on adding 30 million to the sheet next year. Something has got to give before the deadline.

Also take in consideration Riley's age and him wanting another title, he has a very limited window at 77. He's not wanting to do a huge move like rebuilding, it's way more complicated then people think.

The people talking about trading Butler or even Lowry next year haven't realized that it's highly probable that you're getting a bulk of their salary's back in trade which doesn't fix the salary situation for next year and possibly beyond WHILE having to pay players like Herro, Oladipo, Strus, Vincent and Yurtseven their next contract. I don't know how Miami even stays under the cap next year if they extend Herro, and if this team falls behind this year because other teams have gotten better that's a horrible position to be as an owner, you're now talking about rebuilding around Bam and Herro while in the tax while having to send out assets to get under the tax for at least a year starting next season(Lowry comes off the books in 2 seasons).

Something needs to happen this year with Lowry and Robinson’s salary. They can’t go into next year with those contracts on the books and trying to keep there young free agents.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If the Heat viewed Herro as a major piece for the future and were confident in that he would’ve already been extended awhile ago. It’s really that simple. They don’t want to throw away the opportunity to get a Derozan type if they become mad and want out. Don’t extend him and if we decide to keep him just match his cheaper, shorter offer sheet next summer.

It’s not that simple with Herro unless they are able to get off Lowry and Robinson’s deal. Micky is going to have a massive tax bill gun to his head one way or another. There’s no in between here. A trade needs to be made whether to accomdate Herro’s salary next year or he’s traded with Lowry or Robinson of both before the deadline.

If they view Herro as an important piece they’ll do what it takes, I don’t think they’re sold on him. It needs to be what you finished your post with, Duncan Herro Yurt/Jovic and picks for an all star guy that fills a need.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If the Heat viewed Herro as a major piece for the future and were confident in that he would’ve already been extended awhile ago. It’s really that simple. They don’t want to throw away the opportunity to get a Derozan type if they become mad and want out. Don’t extend him and if we decide to keep him just match his cheaper, shorter offer sheet next summer.

It’s not that simple with Herro unless they are able to get off Lowry and Robinson’s deal. Micky is going to have a massive tax bill gun to his head one way or another. There’s no in between here. A trade needs to be made whether to accomdate Herro’s salary next year or he’s traded with Lowry or Robinson of both before the deadline.

Not just get off their deals but not bring back anywhere near their salary next year, basically trading either/both for expiring contracts... and teams may want Miami to toss in assets in helping them do that.

100% they need to be dealt for expiring's. Feel’s almost inevitable we engage the Lakers in a deal for Westbrook and a third team that can take on Westbrook’s salary and buy him out.