Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

[DaeDae]

What is silly is arguing against actual statistics with supposition. The divorce rate is as low as it's been and has been trending down for a while:

Source:

The biggest reason is that people don't get married as young and don't feel obligated to just to have sex. It lets people wait longer and find better fits. Early (first) marriages have a higher rate of dissolution than later marriages but there are less now.

Bingo. A little digging could have cleared this up. But we hold onto dysfunction because it serves whatever narrative we are aligned with in a given day, even if it isn’t truth. People are entitled to their own opinions. We are NOT entitled to our own “facts”.

This conversation is silly because you guys don’t know the difference between a rate & a percentage.

Kinda sad actually.

I was waiting on this. No matter how you slice it, your “more than half of marriages end in divorce” statement is INCORRECT. Period. The data is clear, and no amount of anecdotal evidence is going to supplant the empirical data.

[Mavrelous]

What an overreaction by the Celtics...

[nikster]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

[Pharmcat]

Ok but what does Lebron think???!!! We must know

It’s early on the west coast he probably hasn’t woken up yet . Give it a couple hours

[Tor_Raps]

I am almost certain this is a sex in the office type deal.

Dude... even if that was the case... it's not that big of a deal lol. We're comparing this to much worse things like domestic violence lol.

[enigmatics]

I am almost certain this is a sex in the office type deal.

That was also my first thought.

[shakes0]

a year? He must've banged her right on the leprechaun logo at center court while giving the middle finger to Red Auerbach's retirement banner.

[bubonicphoniks]

Does the woman get suspended too?

This is insanely stupid sounding.

[Cubbies2120]

And yet, not only did you respond, but you did so incorrectly. Instead of actually LOOKING AT THE DATA for marriage rates and divorce rates, you doubled down. I’ve studied the marriage and divorce rates for years and the data is as easy to find as 5 minutes in a search bar.

To answer you question: simply because people are marrying later, with more to lose and are being much more careful about getting married in the first place.

This will be my final comment on this as it’s silly to argue something so easily disproven with actual data, and not anecdotes like “I don’t hardly know anyone who has been married longer than 5 years”.

Lmao sure dude. I’ve “studied” it too.

Based on the nonsense you’re spewing, I’d guess you’re over 45-50 years old.

Things are much different now than you remember.

You guys are getting marriage rates & divorce rates conflated — it’s common knowledge that people are getting married later. That doesn’t mean they stay together.

You know we can look up the actual data and don't need to make guesses? Do you even know where that 50% number comes from?

Current estimate of marriage ending in divorce is like 30-35%. It's a lot lower among youth then boomers. People who wait longer, have education divorce at lower rates.

Not taking sides here, but I love how everyone refers to their sources instead of linking them. Chances are the people in this argument are looking at multiple different sources, but by not linking them, we can't get to the root of the disagreement...

Link your sources folks, otherwise this convo will keep going in circles with mysterious sources being mentioned...

[Eric Bieniemy]

Honest Question: Haven't there been instances of WNBA players dating their assistant coaches?

Let me know if I'm wrong here.

This is the Celtics team policy. Not a league wide thing.

I do think getting suspended for a year for a consensual relationship is nuts though. Workplace relationships may be inappropriate, but they happen literally all the time.

All the time, indeed.

[DaeDae]

And yet, not only did you respond, but you did so incorrectly. Instead of actually LOOKING AT THE DATA for marriage rates and divorce rates, you doubled down. I’ve studied the marriage and divorce rates for years and the data is as easy to find as 5 minutes in a search bar.

To answer you question: simply because people are marrying later, with more to lose and are being much more careful about getting married in the first place.

This will be my final comment on this as it’s silly to argue something so easily disproven with actual data, and not anecdotes like “I don’t hardly know anyone who has been married longer than 5 years”.

Lmao sure dude. I’ve “studied” it too.

Based on the nonsense you’re spewing, I’d guess you’re over 45-50 years old.

Things are much different now than you remember.

You guys are getting marriage rates & divorce rates conflated — it’s common knowledge that people are getting married later. That doesn’t mean they stay together.

You know we can look up the actual data and don't need to make guesses? Do you even know where that 50% number comes from?

Current estimate of marriage ending in divorce is like 30-35%. It's a lot lower among youth then boomers. People who wait longer, have education divorce at lower rates.

at this point I’m in tears. This is downright entertaining.

[talha_raps]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

Are work place rules different for a head coach and some one you assume to be a low level staffer?

Get that misogynist garbage out of here, I'm just calling out the double standards.

[Pharmcat]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

Are work place rules different for a head coach and some one you assume to be a low level staffer?

Get that misogynist garbage out of here, I'm just calling out the double standards.

That other person been disciplined too? I think that’s important for public to know

[DaeDae]

Lmao sure dude. I’ve “studied” it too.

Based on the nonsense you’re spewing, I’d guess you’re over 45-50 years old.

Things are much different now than you remember.

You guys are getting marriage rates & divorce rates conflated — it’s common knowledge that people are getting married later. That doesn’t mean they stay together.

You know we can look up the actual data and don't need to make guesses? Do you even know where that 50% number comes from?

Current estimate of marriage ending in divorce is like 30-35%. It's a lot lower among youth then boomers. People who wait longer, have education divorce at lower rates.

Not taking sides here, but I love how everyone refers to their sources instead of linking them. Chances are the people in this argument are looking at multiple different sources, but by not linking them, we can't get to the root of the disagreement...

Link your sources folks, otherwise this convo will keep going in circles with mysterious sources being mentioned...

Why though, when pretty much EVERY source is unanimous on this. I get what you’re saying, but a simple Google of : “divorce rate 50%”, will LITERALLY yield link after link that debunk the idea that half of all marriages end in divorce. And it’s been that way for years.

[Antinomy]

You really should stop. The divorce rate has never been over 50%, peaked in 1982 (at something under 50%), and has generally been declining for the last 40 years. I can’t speak to how the pandemic years have gone (I haven’t examined the data), but generally speaking the entire foundation of your premise for marriage having an expiration date is wrong.

This response is so naive & ignorant, that’s its not even worth responding to.

How can any person currently living think that divorce rates are LOWER now in the age of social media, dating apps & no-fault divorce?

Absolutely silly.

I would say that divorce rates are lower because less people are getting married. The whole foundational family archetype isn’t as promoted as it once was. I don’t know the statistics on it but it would make sense to me in this day and age.

But I know a lot of people that have been married five years or longer. Just because your circle of friends is infested with scoundrels and ne’erdowells doesn’t mean it’s reflective of society as a whole.

That’s very assuming of you to think I those people around.

I wasn’t just talking about friends — I’m talking former teachers, older relatives, high school classmates, friends of family members.

Hell, a well respected couple in my community just got divorced a few weeks ago.

You never really know what people have going on — and many “happy” marriages you see aren’t exactly what you think.

They’re just stuck together.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

You should be suspended for a year for baseless name-calling.

[Zeno]

I am almost certain this is a sex in the office type deal.

Dude... even if that was the case... it's not that big of a deal lol. We're comparing this to much worse things like domestic violence lol.

It is a big deal to have sex AT your job (when sex isn't your job)

[celticfan42487]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

Are work place rules different for a head coach and some one you assume to be a low level staffer?

Get that misogynist garbage out of here, I'm just calling out the double standards.

Well, based on position of power yes rules are always different.

That's what would make someone abusing their power or not.

I'm not sure what workplaces y'all work at but I thought it was common place to have rules against bosses having relations (sex or relationships) with people they manage.

[nikster]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

Are work place rules different for a head coach and some one you assume to be a low level staffer?

Get that misogynist garbage out of here, I'm just calling out the double standards.

Its not a double standard. this is a media report not the company's statement. Media likely doesn't even know who they are. And don't care because their viewers won't care.

And yes company's will treat issues differently if they're dealing with a public figure. It's not like they can quitely suspend the Head Coach. You think anybody would have heard of this story if it was just 2 low level staffers involved?

But please, continue your meaningless crusade for "equality"

[DaeDae]

Ok. I’m going back to work. I’ve had my entertainment for the day.