Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

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Re: Woj Update - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season 

Post#461 » by nikster » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:24 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
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whatisacenter wrote:Definition of misogyny
: hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women


How is THAT misogynistic?

He was specifically talking about the wives that cheated on their husbands — not women as a whole.

if you can read what he posted and not hear what he is saying I don't know what to tell you...he then went on to say the following about women as a whole.
I feel bad for young men that think they can find a decent woman in this day and age. If you're rich, good looking and packing, you can find a decent woman, but if you're a regular Joe, good damn luck.

I say suspend Udoka for 10 games, fire the women, and move on.

Yeah that paragraph could have been taken straight from a incel forum.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#462 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:25 pm

I believe Celtics leaked this to put pressure on Udoka to resign now

He wont be Celtics coach ever again

Never like to see this stuff happen.
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Post#463 » by djsunyc » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:26 pm

you get a warning not to do something at work and you do it then you gonna get in trouble lol.

it ain't that much deeper than that.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#464 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:26 pm

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DaeDae wrote:I don’t understand the controversy here. You can’t “f***” a Sr. executives wife, have it get out, and seriously think you’re going to keep your job.

The ONLY reason he’s not fired is because (I believe) he’s in a right to work state and that complicates things. If this were in Atlanta, his @$$ would be GONE GONE.


Reason he isnt fired is because he has a contract and the C's dont want to pay him to coach on some other team


I still wonder how that works in a R2W state. Contracts are terminated all the time down here. Maybe it’s a Union issue. Because we largely don’t have unions down here either.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#465 » by DaPessimist » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:27 pm

Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#467 » by Eric Bieniemy » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:27 pm

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Bird4Three wrote:For anyone citing Jeanie/Phil, note that Jeanie out-ranked him, therefore SHE would be the one in the position of power in the org, and besides that, totally different organization and rules, and situation for that matter.

I think may be disingenuous here.

I've read every page of this thread, and general consensus is it's inappropriate to date people who are under you.

That's exactly what Buss did, so it should be seen as equally inappropriate, regardless of team policy.


I mean it really all depends. Ive worked at a place where they said no interoffice relationships were allowed (even people who had even level power). While my dad has worked at a big time research institute and the CEO is married to a lower level supervisor. Some places have a strict no go policy with stuff like this, some places have them fill out forms stating their personal life wont interfere with work. With stuff like this, it really can come down to individual work environments. Unless the NBA as a general corporation has a blanket policy on this.

I understand. Am I alone in hearing the idea of NEVER dating your subordinate as a very general, blanketed unwritten rule across all professions?

It's been expressed in this thread alone at least a handful times.

Your response is fair and measured. Most people when speaking of this say it should never happen because the subordinate is placed in a position of fear to say no. This is the general perception I'm speaking of. I think there's a ton of nuance in these situations that get ignored.
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Post#468 » by bballfan1three3 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:27 pm

SichtingLives wrote:Some men just can't help themselves from plowing every field. As a matter of fact, some men are attracted to the idea that they could potentially ruin their entire life and everyone elses, just to cop one nut. Like thats part of the thrill. I know many people like this, who have actually done it, and continue seeking the same thing afterward. The idea that ALL men are like this though, is utter tripe. And it's not because "they can't", it's because they simply aren't wired that way and don't have those values. Sad as it is, a lot of men are taught from a young age that doing **** like this is something to be respected. And I'm not just talking about cheating, which I don't respect, but w/e not my business. I'm talking about dudes sticking their dick in things that spiral out and affect all kinds of other things. And they continue to compulsively do it anyway. You can say that comes with power, and I'm sure it does. But again, I know people who are regular af people who have blown up relationship after marriage after relationship, banging other peoples wives, getting them pregnant, losing jobs, losing custody of children, losing their homes, and STILL sticking their dick into anything while staying in relationships. Like why not just be SINGLE?? Oh right, "status" *sigh*. And anyway yes I'm assuming Udoka is one of these people, the fact that he is very recently separated is a minor distinction becasue full grown middle aged man sluts don't tend to be discretionary between turning it on and off due to relationship status. But why anyone would want this much drama in their life is just crazy. Can't imagine my dick costing me anything tangible. It's just a nut. You could whack off, or at the very least be way more discrete about it. That thrill of getting caught, I just can't relate to not being able to control that part of your brain. But I'm sure there are people right here on realgm who have lived this and can explain it.

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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#469 » by G R E Y » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:29 pm

I can't tell whether the punishment is designed to try to push Udoka out or if someone was really fighting to keep him and settled on a long suspension to appease those who wanted him gone, and hope he quits because of the length.

I assume that C's could have just fired Udoka for just cause and so not have to pay the rest of the contract? It's what makes me think someone was in his corner. If it were unanimous of course he'd be gone.

Is the suspension without pay? Seems logical as part of punishment but I don't know what the labour laws are in such cases.
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Post#470 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:29 pm

DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.


It’s looking more and more though like he also f*cked a superiors wife.
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Post#471 » by bballfan1three3 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:31 pm

DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.

Then what is the point of subordinates? To lord over them? Seems facetious and strange, like America in general
If someone is below you in the totem pole you MUST sleep with them. Or you will get prostate cancer. And die. Mankind must fulfill his biological urges or God will punish him with prostate cancer. It's in the Bible
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Post#472 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:31 pm

bballfan1three3 wrote:
SichtingLives wrote:Some men just can't help themselves from plowing every field. As a matter of fact, some men are attracted to the idea that they could potentially ruin their entire life and everyone elses, just to cop one nut. Like thats part of the thrill. I know many people like this, who have actually done it, and continue seeking the same thing afterward. The idea that ALL men are like this though, is utter tripe. And it's not because "they can't", it's because they simply aren't wired that way and don't have those values. Sad as it is, a lot of men are taught from a young age that doing **** like this is something to be respected. And I'm not just talking about cheating, which I don't respect, but w/e not my business. I'm talking about dudes sticking their dick in things that spiral out and affect all kinds of other things. And they continue to compulsively do it anyway. You can say that comes with power, and I'm sure it does. But again, I know people who are regular af people who have blown up relationship after marriage after relationship, banging other peoples wives, getting them pregnant, losing jobs, losing custody of children, losing their homes, and STILL sticking their dick into anything while staying in relationships. Like why not just be SINGLE?? Oh right, "status" *sigh*. And anyway yes I'm assuming Udoka is one of these people, the fact that he is very recently separated is a minor distinction becasue full grown middle aged man sluts don't tend to be discretionary between turning it on and off due to relationship status. But why anyone would want this much drama in their life is just crazy. Can't imagine my dick costing me anything tangible. It's just a nut. You could whack off, or at the very least be way more discrete about it. That thrill of getting caught, I just can't relate to not being able to control that part of your brain. But I'm sure there are people right here on realgm who have lived this and can explain it.

I can explain it
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There are way too many single women, and he has way too much money, influence and notoriety for him to ever need to “park” in someone else’s garage though
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Post#473 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:32 pm

bballfan1three3 wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.

Then what is the point of subordinates? To lord over them? Seems facetious and strange, like America in general
If someone is below you in the totem pole you MUST sleep with them. Or you will get prostate cancer. And die. Mankind must fulfill his biological urges or God will punish him with prostate cancer. It's in the Bible


Ah. Sarcasm. I missed it in your previous post.
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Post#474 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:32 pm

DaeDae wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.


It’s looking more and more though like he also f*cked a superiors wife.


LOL, what corporations have you worked for? If a consensual relationship is between unmarried people, most employers will do nothing. They don't run employees' private lives.

Why is the national media ripping the Celtics for something they haven't done yet?
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Post#475 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:33 pm

bballfan1three3 wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.

Then what is the point of subordinates? To lord over them? Seems facetious and strange, like America in general
If someone is below you in the totem pole you MUST sleep with them. Or you will get prostate cancer. And die. Mankind must fulfill his biological urges or God will punish him with prostate cancer. It's in the Bible


Ah. Sarcasm. I missed it in your previous post.
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Post#476 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:34 pm

DaeDae wrote:I don’t understand the controversy here. You can’t “f***” a Sr. executives wife, have it get out, and seriously think you’re going to keep your job.

The ONLY reason he’s not fired is because (I believe) he’s in a right to work state and that complicates things. If this were in Atlanta, his @$$ would be GONE GONE.


Did he really, I mean this has been confirmed that it was one of the executives' wife? Dang. Who's wife?

As for the implications- they are much bigger than people think when it comes to coorperate workplace/space. Usually, this could lead to law suits, serious league-wide blockback and potentially even the ownership being forced to sell the team. That's why in any big time coorporation, you're now allowed to sleep with women/men especially if you're in a position of power.
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Post#477 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:37 pm

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DaeDae wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.


It’s looking more and more though like he also f*cked a superiors wife.


LOL, what corporations have you worked for? If a consensual relationship is between unmarried people, most employers will do nothing. They don't run employees' private lives.

Why is the national media ripping the Celtics for something they haven't done yet?


Several. Including MAJOR fortune 100 companies from brands YOU KNOW. LOL, I’m typing this from my corner office just 3 doors down from our CIO, in the heart of Atlanta. If your private life impacts office environment - and f***ing the Sr. VPs wife almost certainly qualifies as that - they likely WILL, and I would argue SHOULD fire you.
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Post#478 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:37 pm

bballfan1three3 wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:Fairly common that you're not allowed to have sex with subordinates in Corporate America. Most corporations will just fire you.

Then what is the point of subordinates? To lord over them? Seems facetious and strange, like America in general
If someone is below you in the totem pole you MUST sleep with them. Or you will get prostate cancer. And die. Mankind must fulfill his biological urges or God will punish him with prostate cancer. It's in the Bible



Finally! Somebody mentions the obvious.

To be more precise it's on Page 17 of the Bible. And Page 139. And some claim a version of it exists on Page 309, but there, they refer to it as "going to poundtown" and "prostatitis," which has left scribes arguing about its true meaning for years.
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Post#479 » by GOATTatum » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:38 pm

What consenting adults do behind closed doors is none of our business.
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Post#480 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:38 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
DaeDae wrote:I don’t understand the controversy here. You can’t “f***” a Sr. executives wife, have it get out, and seriously think you’re going to keep your job.

The ONLY reason he’s not fired is because (I believe) he’s in a right to work state and that complicates things. If this were in Atlanta, his @$$ would be GONE GONE.


Did he really, I mean this has been confirmed that it was one of the executives' wife? Dang. Who's wife?

As for the implications- they are much bigger than people think when it comes to coorperate workplace/space. Usually, this could lead to law suits, serious league-wide blockback and potentially even the ownership being forced to sell the team. That's why in any big time coorporation, you're now allowed to sleep with women/men especially if you're in a position of power.



Back a few pages someone quoted a tweet that he actually was f***ing more than one woman connected to the Celtics, including a VP and a Sr. VP’s WIFE.

That is the only thing that lends itself to a YEAR LONG suspension making sense. They aren’t giving him this kind of work (no pun intended) for f***ing the towel girl.
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