Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

[celticfan42487]

This. If a worker in my office banged the significant other of a superior? Holy smokes. Gone before they can blink. And that wouldn't be trending Twitter news like this.

In the moment of a twinkling of an eye…

I don’t have adequate words to describe how quickly someone would be fired at my company for this. Like they’d be fired before they could even get on the elevator.

Well they would have to be escorted out after they gathered their belongings. lol

No, those can be mailed to the last known address of the employee post firing and often is to avoid any potential conflicts and disturbances to the workplace when people are fired for misconduct or interpersonal conflict with an employee still in that workplace.

[Duke4life831]

Agreed that it's speculation at this point. You may have a point about one of the parties not 'going with the program'. I just find it hard to believe that any of the principal players in this drama had no idea of what was going on. I find it more likely that a '3rd party' decided to blow the whistle, which is very common in workplace grievances.

Im just looking at what is the more likely scenario.

Ime is messing around with an executives wife and the executive is cool with it. Someone else finds out and reports it and now Ime may lose his job or at minimum be suspended for a very long time.

or

Ime is messing around with an executive's wife and the executive finds out and isnt cool with it. Is beyond pissed off and reports it. Now the Celtics have a work environment which is extremely toxic and dysfunctional.

I just feel like scenario #2 is the most likely scenario. That to me fits what is being reported about what the Celtics organization is currently talking about. There is talks of Ime resigning, suspending him for a year or flat out firing him. To me that sounds more than a relationship everyone is cool about but maybe viewed as kind of embarrassing. And it sounds like the Celtics organization knows they have a very toxic situation on hand and are trying to figure out if him being away for a year will be enough for it all to die down, or if he needs to go for good. Just seems to fit scenario #2 more in my opinion.

That’s why scenario 2 is the only one I’m considering at this point.

Yup. And to be clear I understand this is all based off of speculation. But the rumors that have been talked about are

Ime had a consensual relationship with a subordinate
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (where all parties involved were cool with it)
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (the exec is pissed about it)

Again just breaking them down.

If it was #1, I dont think we see talks of Ime possibly resigning, possibly getting fired or getting suspended for the year. I think the most realistic scenario there is smaller punishments like opening day suspension and so on until they break it off.

If it was #2, I think the most likely scenario there is they just sweep it under the rug, tell them to knock that off in any public situations and just let it live as random internet rumors.

#3 just seems to fit the most. #3 creates the most toxic work environment. It creates a scenario of contemplating if this guy needs to get fired/resign or if him being away for a year is good enough to let all heated emotions cool down. Another reason why I dont think we have seen the Celtics organization comment on this yet. I still think theyre currently trying to put out their own housefires going on (which would make sense if #3 happened). Once they do that and they figure out if fences can be mended, we will see what they come to as a solution.

[Cactus Jack]

He's out the door.

[Dubnation]

Those away games for BOS are going to be hilarious.

Especially here in San Francisco. Dubs fans remember the '**** Draymond' chant.

[DaeDae]

Im just looking at what is the more likely scenario.

Ime is messing around with an executives wife and the executive is cool with it. Someone else finds out and reports it and now Ime may lose his job or at minimum be suspended for a very long time.

or

Ime is messing around with an executive's wife and the executive finds out and isnt cool with it. Is beyond pissed off and reports it. Now the Celtics have a work environment which is extremely toxic and dysfunctional.

I just feel like scenario #2 is the most likely scenario. That to me fits what is being reported about what the Celtics organization is currently talking about. There is talks of Ime resigning, suspending him for a year or flat out firing him. To me that sounds more than a relationship everyone is cool about but maybe viewed as kind of embarrassing. And it sounds like the Celtics organization knows they have a very toxic situation on hand and are trying to figure out if him being away for a year will be enough for it all to die down, or if he needs to go for good. Just seems to fit scenario #2 more in my opinion.

That’s why scenario 2 is the only one I’m considering at this point.

Yup. And to be clear I understand this is all based off of speculation. But the rumors that have been talked about are

Ime had a consensual relationship with a subordinate
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (where all parties involved were cool with it)
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (the exec is pissed about it)

Again just breaking them down.

If it was #1, I dont think we see talks of Ime possibly resigning, possibly getting fired or getting suspended for the year. I think the most realistic scenario there is smaller punishments like opening day suspension and so on until they break it off.

If it was #2, I think the most likely scenario there is they just sweep it under the rug, tell them to knock that off in any public situations and just let it live as random internet rumors.

#3 just seems to fit the most. #3 creates the most toxic work environment. It creates a scenario of contemplating if this guy needs to get fired/resign or if him being away for a year is good enough to let all heated emotions cool down. Another reason why I dont think we have seen the Celtics organization comment on this yet. I still think theyre currently trying to put out their own housefires going on (which would make sense if #3 happened). Once they do that and they figure out if fences can be mended, we will see what they come to as a solution.

Agreed on all fronts.

[Capn'O]

Im just looking at what is the more likely scenario.

Ime is messing around with an executives wife and the executive is cool with it. Someone else finds out and reports it and now Ime may lose his job or at minimum be suspended for a very long time.

or

Ime is messing around with an executive's wife and the executive finds out and isnt cool with it. Is beyond pissed off and reports it. Now the Celtics have a work environment which is extremely toxic and dysfunctional.

I just feel like scenario #2 is the most likely scenario. That to me fits what is being reported about what the Celtics organization is currently talking about. There is talks of Ime resigning, suspending him for a year or flat out firing him. To me that sounds more than a relationship everyone is cool about but maybe viewed as kind of embarrassing. And it sounds like the Celtics organization knows they have a very toxic situation on hand and are trying to figure out if him being away for a year will be enough for it all to die down, or if he needs to go for good. Just seems to fit scenario #2 more in my opinion.

That’s why scenario 2 is the only one I’m considering at this point.

Yup. And to be clear I understand this is all based off of speculation. But the rumors that have been talked about are

Ime had a consensual relationship with a subordinate
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (where all parties involved were cool with it)
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (the exec is pissed about it)

Again just breaking them down.

If it was #1, I dont think we see talks of Ime possibly resigning, possibly getting fired or getting suspended for the year. I think the most realistic scenario there is smaller punishments like opening day suspension and so on until they break it off.

If it was #2, I think the most likely scenario there is they just sweep it under the rug, tell them to knock that off in any public situations and just let it live as random internet rumors.

#3 just seems to fit the most. #3 creates the most toxic work environment. It creates a scenario of contemplating if this guy needs to get fired/resign or if him being away for a year is good enough to let all heated emotions cool down. Another reason why I dont think we have seen the Celtics organization comment on this yet. I still think theyre currently trying to put out their own housefires going on (which would make sense if #3 happened). Once they do that and they figure out if fences can be mended, we will see what they come to as a solution.

Based on the rumors, it might be 1 AND 3. It's definitely 3 though. Somebody is big big big mad at Ime and it's somebody high enough up for this big of a repercussion. Otherwise, it's just a conversation. This is a wild situation.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I think what people are missing is it wasn't consensual to the other parties involved soon to be wives or husbands..

If it was that simple it wouldn't be a big deal...but the truth is he wrecked other people's lives.

He deserves to be fired for his actions and blackballed from the league.

Cheating is a.terrible thing that does so much harm to the lives of the people it effects.

This is **** insane.

Your employer is not the morality police.

Agreed. However when you have an affair with the wife of one of your bosses you lose your job, I’m surprised that isn’t the case here. Celtics must really value this guy as a coach.

if he hadn't taken the celtics to the finals in his first year, he'd be gone.

[GSWFan1994]

He will not only resign, he will also release a lenghty letter in which he will apologize to all the women in the world.

[WargamesX]

If they are serious about Ime being suspended a year and coming back Brad Stevens should be the coach. He needs to pull a Riley and keep the ship steady as they come back as contenders. Asking an assistant coach to come in as a 1-year rental and try to get that team over the hump.

If the Celtics aren’t punting this year Stevens should be the coach. If the assistant takes the job I think there is a higher chance Ime is gone.

[AleksandarN]

It is just sex and this isn't a problem at all...but oh well, you know that people want to have high moral standards lol.

What a world...

This rule isn't in place because of sex between two consenting parties. It's in place to stop situations like Isiah Thomas who end up costing the team $11m. If you let Ime slide the next time someone tries this maybe the woman (or man) isn't so receptive. Then you have a major problem. If you cut it off at the source you (hopefully) stop the really bad stuff before it happens.

Correct. To go a step further, if the Celtics know about their relationship and it wasn’t because of transparency in the part of the participants, then IT IS ALREADY A WORKPLACE ISSUE. This is not an action you take unless their relationship is influencing the environment at work. Clearly it is because they are aware in the first place.

They are left with no choice here. Even the appearance of impropriety is enough.

Not only about that even. It is opens up the company to lawsuits from other employees who could claim that the relationship created possible discrimination in the workplace. Also even if the relationship ended the other party could sue the company if they get denied a possible promotion at work. Not to mention the company, if failed to do anything, would end up losing their liability insurance. This is a huge deal. People have been fired and or had to resign for this. One year is not bad considering.

[wade44]

What a confusing, tiring saga of speculation. Wonder if what actually happened will ever be revealed

[Dubnation]

That’s why scenario 2 is the only one I’m considering at this point.

Yup. And to be clear I understand this is all based off of speculation. But the rumors that have been talked about are

Ime had a consensual relationship with a subordinate
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (where all parties involved were cool with it)
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (the exec is pissed about it)

Again just breaking them down.

If it was #1, I dont think we see talks of Ime possibly resigning, possibly getting fired or getting suspended for the year. I think the most realistic scenario there is smaller punishments like opening day suspension and so on until they break it off.

If it was #2, I think the most likely scenario there is they just sweep it under the rug, tell them to knock that off in any public situations and just let it live as random internet rumors.

#3 just seems to fit the most. #3 creates the most toxic work environment. It creates a scenario of contemplating if this guy needs to get fired/resign or if him being away for a year is good enough to let all heated emotions cool down. Another reason why I dont think we have seen the Celtics organization comment on this yet. I still think theyre currently trying to put out their own housefires going on (which would make sense if #3 happened). Once they do that and they figure out if fences can be mended, we will see what they come to as a solution.

Based on the rumors, it might be 1 AND 3. It's definitely 3 though. Somebody is big big big mad at Ime and it's somebody high enough up for this big of a repercussion. Otherwise, it's just a conversation. This is a wild situation.

Oh I agree. I see it a 1 being coupled with 2 or 3. - Or maybe a 4th in that at first hubby was cool, then not. The matrix can be complex.

[TwitterFingers]

This is **** insane.

Your employer is not the morality police.

Agreed. However when you have an affair with the wife of one of your bosses you lose your job, I’m surprised that isn’t the case here. Celtics must really value this guy as a coach.

if he hadn't taken the celtics to the finals in his first year, he'd be gone.

I don’t disagree. Furthermore no one would would trust him enough to hire him after that type of infraction. Good thing for him he was supper successful last year.

[Dubnation]

In the moment of a twinkling of an eye…

I don’t have adequate words to describe how quickly someone would be fired at my company for this. Like they’d be fired before they could even get on the elevator.

Well they would have to be escorted out after they gathered their belongings. lol

HR would FaceTime their asses from the parking lot. “What you want me to put in this box, homey”?

[Capn'O]

Yup. And to be clear I understand this is all based off of speculation. But the rumors that have been talked about are

Ime had a consensual relationship with a subordinate
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (where all parties involved were cool with it)
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (the exec is pissed about it)

Again just breaking them down.

If it was #1, I dont think we see talks of Ime possibly resigning, possibly getting fired or getting suspended for the year. I think the most realistic scenario there is smaller punishments like opening day suspension and so on until they break it off.

If it was #2, I think the most likely scenario there is they just sweep it under the rug, tell them to knock that off in any public situations and just let it live as random internet rumors.

#3 just seems to fit the most. #3 creates the most toxic work environment. It creates a scenario of contemplating if this guy needs to get fired/resign or if him being away for a year is good enough to let all heated emotions cool down. Another reason why I dont think we have seen the Celtics organization comment on this yet. I still think theyre currently trying to put out their own housefires going on (which would make sense if #3 happened). Once they do that and they figure out if fences can be mended, we will see what they come to as a solution.

Based on the rumors, it might be 1 AND 3. It's definitely 3 though. Somebody is big big big mad at Ime and it's somebody high enough up for this big of a repercussion. Otherwise, it's just a conversation. This is a wild situation.

Oh I agree. I see it a 1 being coupled with 2 or 3. - Or maybe a 4th in that at first hubby was cool, then not. The matrix can be complex.

I mean that there might be multiple women involved. One simply a subordinate/consensual and the other with the boss' wife.

[whatisacenter]

He will not only resign, he will also release a lenghty letter in which he will apologize to all the women in the world.

What have women done, or better yet not done, to you to make you type that?

[TheNewEra]

Im just looking at what is the more likely scenario.

Ime is messing around with an executives wife and the executive is cool with it. Someone else finds out and reports it and now Ime may lose his job or at minimum be suspended for a very long time.

or

Ime is messing around with an executive's wife and the executive finds out and isnt cool with it. Is beyond pissed off and reports it. Now the Celtics have a work environment which is extremely toxic and dysfunctional.

I just feel like scenario #2 is the most likely scenario. That to me fits what is being reported about what the Celtics organization is currently talking about. There is talks of Ime resigning, suspending him for a year or flat out firing him. To me that sounds more than a relationship everyone is cool about but maybe viewed as kind of embarrassing. And it sounds like the Celtics organization knows they have a very toxic situation on hand and are trying to figure out if him being away for a year will be enough for it all to die down, or if he needs to go for good. Just seems to fit scenario #2 more in my opinion.

That’s why scenario 2 is the only one I’m considering at this point.

Yup. And to be clear I understand this is all based off of speculation. But the rumors that have been talked about are

Ime had a consensual relationship with a subordinate
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (where all parties involved were cool with it)
Ime had a relationship with an executives wife (the exec is pissed about it)

Again just breaking them down.

If it was #1, I dont think we see talks of Ime possibly resigning, possibly getting fired or getting suspended for the year. I think the most realistic scenario there is smaller punishments like opening day suspension and so on until they break it off.

If it was #2, I think the most likely scenario there is they just sweep it under the rug, tell them to knock that off in any public situations and just let it live as random internet rumors.

#3 just seems to fit the most. #3 creates the most toxic work environment. It creates a scenario of contemplating if this guy needs to get fired/resign or if him being away for a year is good enough to let all heated emotions cool down. Another reason why I dont think we have seen the Celtics organization comment on this yet. I still think theyre currently trying to put out their own housefires going on (which would make sense if #3 happened). Once they do that and they figure out if fences can be mended, we will see what they come to as a solution.

scenario #1 would be the most fun because then it means the Celtics organization was a bunch of swingers and no one really got cheated up but someone snitched. Would still have to get fired for public reasons.

[dhsilv2]

We are looking a lot not just a little bit. Most men think the internet was created for sports, porn and porn. And I don't think they are wrong.

Sports?

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Porn,Nba,Nfl,Sports,Ukraine

As NFL interest goes up, so too does porn. Weird....I worry about our nfl fans.

[DaeDae]

In all seriousness, if the most egregious of these rumors is true, it’s very sad. No less than 5 lives have been materially impacted in a deeply negative way. His son with Nia Long is the same age as my son. Picking up the pieces would be a nightmare.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

It is just sex and this isn't a problem at all...but oh well, you know that people want to have high moral standards lol.

What a world...

You don’t obviously run a business. This can open liability issues for any company if this happens. Nothing to do with moral standards

This. If a worker in my office banged the significant other of a superior? Holy smokes. Gone before they can blink. And that wouldn't be trending Twitter news like this.

only Stevens and the ownership is a superior of Udoka, in the organization (excluding players)