Rays/Jays Sept 22 - 25

Randle McMurphy · Post #21 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:51 pm

spykelee wrote:Berrios hasn't been great tonight to be certain but all this reinforces to me is how if there's one team we don't want to face, it's these guys. Tough at bat after tough at bat.

The Rays offense has been bad for a while now. I think this game only reinforces just how bad Berrios is.

Randle McMurphy · Post #22 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:52 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:Can we pull this guy before we have no chance at all?

Nevermind this btw with a loss all but certain; we need this joke to pitch as long as possible now with another bullpen game tomorrow.

pilkoids · Post #23 » by **pilkoids** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:53 pm

74 pitches, 2 innings.

pilkoids · Post #24 » by **pilkoids** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:54 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Can we pull this guy before we have no chance at all?

Nevermind this btw with a loss all but certain; we need this joke to pitch as long as possible now with another bullpen game tomorrow.

That'll be another inning at most at this rate

hst420 · Post #25 » by **hst420** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:59 pm

There is something fundamentally undermining Berrios effectiveness with his 4 seamer.. whether that's mechanics or where he's set up on the rubber in relation to the batter however something is clearly wrong.

Randle McMurphy · Post #26 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:00 am

pilkoids wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Can we pull this guy before we have no chance at all?

Nevermind this btw with a loss all but certain; we need this joke to pitch as long as possible now with another bullpen game tomorrow.

That'll be another inning at most at this rate

Yep. And we do actually need that considering the next 3 games.

Post #27 » by **spykelee** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:02 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
spykelee wrote:Berrios hasn't been great tonight to be certain but all this reinforces to me is how if there's one team we don't want to face, it's these guys. Tough at bat after tough at bat.

The Rays offense has been bad for a while now. I think this game only reinforces just how bad Berrios is.

Doesn't seem to matter what the rays are or have been.. they are tough for us.

Randle McMurphy · Post #28 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:13 am

The Jays may want to reevaluate the whole pushing Manoah back a day thing now. Two bullpen days in a row otherwise.

Post #29 » by **Schad** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:15 am

hst420 wrote:There is something fundamentally undermining Berrios effectiveness with his 4 seamer.. whether that's mechanics or where he's set up on the rubber in relation to the batter however something is clearly wrong.

His 4-seamer is definitely the worst of his problems. The okay parts of his pitch mix (CH/CU) are awkward with just a sinker though. He either needs to ditch it and develop something to keep hitters off the sinker (a cutter, maybe?) or radically overhaul his 4-seamer, because it might as well be on a tee right now.

Raps in 4 · Post #30 » by **Raps in 4** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:44 am

If we get swept here, we need to tank for that #3 WC spot.

Randle McMurphy · Post #31 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:46 am

Raps in 4 wrote:If we get swept here, we need to tank for that #3 WC spot.

Orioles are up right now and may be 5.5 back after tonight (with 3 games remaining against us). We may not be in any position to tank at all if we get swept.

Randle McMurphy · Post #32 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:48 am

Also, Cleveland with all their slap/situational hitting and stolen bases could be this team's worst nightmare anyway. They remind me of the 2015 Royals.

Fairview4Life · Post #33 » by **Fairview4Life** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:49 am

So, Manoah, Gausman and Stripling in the playoffs. Just like we though at the beginning of the year.

TOStateofMind · Post #34 » by **TOStateofMind** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:52 am

Rays scored 2 runs in 3 games vs the astros.

Already 9 tonight in one game lol.

Madvillainy2004 · Post #35 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:56 am

We can't start Berrios in a playoff game right? I still have nightmares of Dickey tossing a game va the 2015 Royals lol

Raps in 4 · Post #36 » by **Raps in 4** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:58 am

Fairview4Life wrote:So, Manoah, Gausman and Stripling in the playoffs. Just like we though at the beginning of the year.

A large contingent of fans on the Jays subreddit wants Berrios in there instead of Stripling, lol.

Raps in 4 · Post #37 » by **Raps in 4** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:59 am

Madvillainy2004 wrote:We can't start Berrios in a playoff game right? I still have nightmares of Dickey tossing a game va the 2015 Royals lol

I'd rather start White than Berrios if it came down to it.

Randle McMurphy · Post #38 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:59 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:So, Manoah, Gausman and Stripling in the playoffs. Just like we though at the beginning of the year.

A large contingent of fans on the Jays subreddit wants Berrios in there instead of Stripling, lol.

Wilner is literally tweeting that right now. It was also a story on Sportsnet last week.

Unless the team is run by total morons, he can't start a Bo3 playoff game. He's been horrible this season. I wouldn't even put him on the roster.

Post #39 » by **Schad** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:00 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
Madvillainy2004 wrote:We can't start Berrios in a playoff game right? I still have nightmares of Dickey tossing a game va the 2015 Royals lol

I'd rather start White than Berrios if it came down to it.

With the additional rest in the playoffs, I'd just bullpen game it if needed.

Randle McMurphy · Post #40 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:15 am

20-3 Rays over the last two games against them. And apparently Mitch White is starting over Manoah tomorrow. Doomed.