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John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III

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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1901 » by Dark Faze » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:01 pm

AFM wrote:Hey Terd,
https://signature.theplayerstribune.com/john-wall-nba-basketball-los-angeles-clippers/p/1

This is what a sincere human looks like.

I really hate what this franchise did to john. Dumping him over, what a snapchat video?

I could go on about money only solving money problems vs happiness but I think you all get it.


My theory is Ted thinks John tore his Achilles by doing something reckless that could void his contract, which probably has a reasonably good chance of being true. Slipped in the shower is super suspect stuff.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1902 » by nate33 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:25 pm

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AFM wrote:Hey Terd,
https://signature.theplayerstribune.com/john-wall-nba-basketball-los-angeles-clippers/p/1

This is what a sincere human looks like.

I really hate what this franchise did to john. Dumping him over, what a snapchat video?

I could go on about money only solving money problems vs happiness but I think you all get it.


My theory is Ted thinks John tore his Achilles by doing something reckless that could void his contract, which probably has a reasonably good chance of being true. Slipped in the shower is super suspect stuff.

Yeah, I'm sure John did more than merely flash a gang sign in a snapchat video. And let's not act like trading him is the same thing as firing him. 99% of players in this league eventually switch teams.

John is a complicated dude. He obviously has a good heart and is a good person at his core, but he's not perfect. He makes mistakes, and he has done some dumb things in his past. He also has had a questionable work ethic when it comes to improving his fundamentals. Sometimes, even good people can wear out their welcome.

I'm not trying to defend Ted. I'm just saying we don't know the whole story.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1903 » by Wizardspride » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:56 pm

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AFM wrote:Hey Terd,
https://signature.theplayerstribune.com/john-wall-nba-basketball-los-angeles-clippers/p/1

This is what a sincere human looks like.

I really hate what this franchise did to john. Dumping him over, what a snapchat video?

I could go on about money only solving money problems vs happiness but I think you all get it.


My theory is Ted thinks John tore his Achilles by doing something reckless that could void his contract, which probably has a reasonably good chance of being true. Slipped in the shower is super suspect stuff.

Yeah, I'm sure John did more than merely flash a gang sign in a snapchat video. And let's not act like trading him is the same thing as firing him. 99% of players in this league eventually switch teams.

John is a complicated dude. He obviously has a good heart and is a good person at his core, but he's not perfect. He makes mistakes, and he has done some dumb things in his past. He also has had a questionable work ethic when it comes to improving his fundamentals. Sometimes, even good people can wear out their welcome.

I'm not trying to defend Ted. I'm just saying we don't know the whole story.

For me, it wasn't so much trading John as it was Ted's low key shot at him on the way out.

I just thought it was petty and reflected poorly on Ted's "professionalism".
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1904 » by doclinkin » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:50 pm

Dark Faze wrote:
AFM wrote:Hey Terd,
https://signature.theplayerstribune.com/john-wall-nba-basketball-los-angeles-clippers/p/1

This is what a sincere human looks like.

I really hate what this franchise did to john. Dumping him over, what a snapchat video?

I could go on about money only solving money problems vs happiness but I think you all get it.


My theory is Ted thinks John tore his Achilles by doing something reckless that could void his contract, which probably has a reasonably good chance of being true. Slipped in the shower is super suspect stuff.


Not to me. I recall former Tarheel Eric Montross had his career ended when he broke something in his foot stepping over a baby gate. He had some quote about it that stuck with me at the time like "Not everybody gets a fairy tale ending." Shxt happens. Anybody who has had an injury has had something go wonky in another part of the body trying to compensate for the other injury. John had a serious infection following surgery, and the meds he was taking to fight the infection tend to make tendons weak. Slipping while balancing one injury is totally plausible. The other bad decisions stand on their own.

Anyway Ted didn't need a reason other than the one we all know about. He was publicly embarrassed after having paid John a huge chunk of money and standing by him during rehab and calling him often, the team checking on him every day. Seeing John not rehabbing in Miami but partying late night in New York would feel like Wall was not respecting the situation. Ted felt betrayed and lied to. But didn't reflect on the depression etc that John might be going through.

I think in part the John Wall situation is why Ted overpaid Brad. Beal is the sort of player that never pushes the envelope in this kind of way. If Ted was going to overpay an injured Wall, then it would only be fair if he would overpay a guy like Brad who has shown nothing but loyalty -- even during the tail end of the Grunfeld era when he made clear he was going to jump ship unless the FO changed.

John said it himself though, even his best friends didn't know what was going on with him. He hid it from everybody. Yes a reasonable person could have understood John was going through some mess whatever his public face was, but Ted had John over his house, called him on a weekly basis, etc. Things you generally don't hear about an owner doing. Ted irks me, but he's not slimy. This was just a bad situation all around and decisions were made by feelings. Anyway, it worked out for the Wiz, seems like. And probably John Wall as well, now that he's with a contender.

Wallstar has been one of my favorite Wizards ever, awesome if he makes it back to consequential play and redeems the long struggle. Reading this article just reminds me of what a good guy he is, and how players tend to stand for things larger than themselves. Struggle, grief, mental health, depression -- I like that he is willing to share to be able to help others who see him as a role model. Talk about therapy, and exemplify the idea that if a millionaire hypertalent can struggle then yeah, anyone can. Good dude and I am looking forward to seeing him on court again. I'd love to see him get a bit of redemption for the work he has put in. Or hell, a championship so he can get that fairy tale ending, why not.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1905 » by AFM » Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:00 pm

This city could use more people like John.




Johns cocky. But he has a BIG heart. I love that about him . I'm the same way.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1906 » by gambitx777 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:35 am

As much as I love John as a dude and a player that contract was one of the worst of all time. Trading him for any reason was the right move. Keeping him was not gonna work.

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Post#1907 » by Kanyewest » Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:10 pm

I'm looking for what Leonsis said because I do recall something but a google search revealed this.

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Anyways, the trade for John Wall was a good one for basketball reasons, since Westbrook was better than Wall and eventually the Wizards capitalized on his value in a future trade so I had no problem when they made the trade. I also think the deal got done because Westbrook wanted out making the trade costly for the Wizards.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1908 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Oct 5, 2022 10:18 pm

gambitx777 wrote:As much as I love John as a dude and a player that contract was one of the worst of all time. Trading him for any reason was the right move. Keeping him was not gonna work.

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I recall being among the very small minority of us who were against the deal.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1909 » by AFM » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:08 am

This came up on my youtube algorithm today:




Some of these highlights are amazing. I forgot how sick he was
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1910 » by tontoz » Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:35 pm

But then you watch the games and see him bricking midrange jumpers, driving out of control and flailing hoping to get a foul, and forget about the random highlights.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1911 » by CobraCommander » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:45 pm

tontoz wrote:But then you watch the games and see him bricking midrange jumpers, driving out of control and flailing hoping to get a foul, and forget about the random highlights.

I love John but in hindsight, his flaws were so glaring. He is legit out the league cause of his attitude and inability to be humble while on top and learn, so that when he wasn’t as fast he could still play winning ball.

His whole career was “wait till next year when he…” that never happened
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1912 » by gambitx777 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:58 am

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tontoz wrote:But then you watch the games and see him bricking midrange jumpers, driving out of control and flailing hoping to get a foul, and forget about the random highlights.

I love John but in hindsight, his flaws were so glaring. He is legit out the league cause of his attitude and inability to be humble while on top and learn, so that when he wasn’t as fast he could still play winning ball.

His whole career was “wait till next year when he…” that never happened
Yeah dude, it's just sad. Like wall would in theory still be on a team. He was so fast. If he just had a better work ethic. I knew people in the DC club scene and the wall DC everyday life stories were way worse than it was ever reported to be. I heard some stuff that made me really doubt we were ever gonna win a title. But like I didn't wanna just give up hope on John Wall. But I sort of knew before he left that he wasn't gonna get it together.

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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1913 » by CobraCommander » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:56 am

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tontoz wrote:But then you watch the games and see him bricking midrange jumpers, driving out of control and flailing hoping to get a foul, and forget about the random highlights.

I love John but in hindsight, his flaws were so glaring. He is legit out the league cause of his attitude and inability to be humble while on top and learn, so that when he wasn’t as fast he could still play winning ball.

His whole career was “wait till next year when he…” that never happened
Yeah dude, it's just sad. Like wall would in theory still be on a team. He was so fast. If he just had a better work ethic. I knew people in the DC club scene and the wall DC everyday life stories were way worse than it was ever reported to be. I heard some stuff that made me really doubt we were ever gonna win a title. But like I didn't wanna just give up hope on John Wall. But I sort of knew before he left that he wasn't gonna get it together.

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Same - Girls would tell me they hung out with wall and I would like wait - he got a game out of town and then he would play like crap and they didn’t report he made his own way to a charlotte game and didn’t roll with the team for family reasons - real talk- it’s just sad
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1914 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:16 am

CobraCommander wrote:
tontoz wrote:But then you watch the games and see him bricking midrange jumpers, driving out of control and flailing hoping to get a foul, and forget about the random highlights.

I love John but in hindsight, his flaws were so glaring. He is legit out the league cause of his attitude and inability to be humble while on top and learn, so that when he wasn’t as fast he could still play winning ball.

His whole career was “wait till next year when he…” that never happened
I'll never forget the playoffs where Isaiah Thomas and Boston beat the Wizards. John Wall went full ego and kept missing ego shots. Thomas burned him repeatedly.


https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/when-john-wall-and-isaiah-thomas-reflected-on-the-2017-playoff-encounter

Wall generally had a lot of success against Thomas, but as I recall, Thomas owned him that last playoffs.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1915 » by pancakes3 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:22 pm

both him and boogie were spectacular underperformers
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1916 » by FAH1223 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:55 am

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Seems the relationship is officially on the mend.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1917 » by CobraCommander » Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:39 am

FAH1223 wrote:
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Seems the relationship is officially on the mend.

This kinda sad. John 34 and there are more than 50 guys older than wall still in nba -
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Post#1918 » by Dark Faze » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pm

I'm disappointed in him not going overseas. Being fair to him, he's got young children he probably doesn't want to leave, but it would have been nice to potentially develop a bit in Europe or at worst provide some fun highlights in China.
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Re: John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III 

Post#1919 » by CobraCommander » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:12 am

Dark Faze wrote:I'm disappointed in him not going overseas. Being fair to him, he's got young children he probably doesn't want to leave, but it would have been nice to potentially develop a bit in Europe or at worst provide some fun highlights in China.

It would be cool to take young kids to China to grow up rich - black and speaking Chinese…

Man he holding those kids back lol

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