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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#121 » by celticgreenie » Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:45 am

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celticgreenie wrote:Would hiring Vogel as an assistant be enough for a team with championship aspirations? Would hiring Quin Synder be too much change, plus is he still slated to take over for Pop?


Snyder or Vogel would be excellent hires. Not sure Brad wants to do that though.


Agree with both points. Problem with Synder he would only come in as a head coach and cost lots of money.

Bringing in Synder makes sense in that Ainge did poach Hardy and the favor has to be returned.
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Post#122 » by threrf23 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:56 am

Not a fan of Vogel, he was an OB protege, his teams haven't done anything special and stars he has coached haven't seemed to think a ton of him. Ime brought leadership, accountability, and relatability to the sideline last year, Vogel doesn't strike me as a guy who would fill that void.

Not as familiar with Snyder, but why mess too much with what worked last year? If all assistants are on board and schemes are largely the same, we should be good, just need someone to step up as a proper leader.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#124 » by sam_I_am » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:59 am

Mazzulla’s personality is much more media friendly like Doc and Brad than Ime. Ime was a little awkward/nervous at first and was a little boring. I loved his backbone as a coach and you can’t argue with results on the court. Off the court…..enough has been said already.

I like Mazzulla already. If team is really dialed in like they were at end of season, I think the team will get off to a good start and it could be smooth sailing for Mazzulla.

At the end of the day, it’s the players that win. The coach’s most important role isn’t necessarily X/Os but rather getting the players to buy in and put team ahead of their individual priorities. I think Mazzulla has a chance to be like Luke Walton in GS if he can just slide into a culture/scheme that was working and keep it running.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#125 » by 31to6 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:05 am

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celticgreenie wrote:Would hiring Vogel as an assistant be enough for a team with championship aspirations? Would hiring Quin Synder be too much change, plus is he still slated to take over for Pop?


Snyder or Vogel would be excellent hires. Not sure Brad wants to do that though.


Agree with both points. Problem with Synder he would only come in as a head coach and cost lots of money.

Bringing in Synder makes sense in that Ainge did poach Hardy and the favor has to be returned.


No need to overthink it. The Celtics management didn’t. Go with the simplest possible solution first, get more complicated later only IF needed.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#126 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:39 am

While we are not-identifying women online -- there seems to be no online identification of Joe Mazzulla's mother. I checked several pages about him or his late father Dan (also a demand-the-best-from-you coach) before giving up.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#127 » by ParticleMan » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:42 am

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Snyder or Vogel would be excellent hires. Not sure Brad wants to do that though.


Agree with both points. Problem with Synder he would only come in as a head coach and cost lots of money.

Bringing in Synder makes sense in that Ainge did poach Hardy and the favor has to be returned.


No need to overthink it. The Celtics management didn’t. Go with the simplest possible solution first, get more complicated later only IF needed.


I'd definitely worry about bringing in a vet head coach with HC aspirations as an assistant to a young interim coach. I think Mazzulla has the right idea of just keeping things going the way it was under Ime, working on details and improvements rather than trying anything significantly new. We need the team to be united and pulling in one direction, and that includes the coaching staff.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#128 » by Froob » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:11 am

Would we need to give compensation for Larranga?
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Post#129 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:32 am

If he good enough for Lue’s staff, he’s definitely good enough for ours. He has familiarity with almost all of our core. Tatum would be pumped for sure, Jay was his personal coach before he left and Mazzulla took over that spot.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#130 » by chrisab123 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:06 am

Why Larranga? Can we not go backwards here. Whats next? Micah Shrewsbury?
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#131 » by dans1230 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:59 am

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chrisab123 wrote:
Snyder or Vogel would be excellent hires. Not sure Brad wants to do that though.


Agree with both points. Problem with Synder he would only come in as a head coach and cost lots of money.

Bringing in Synder makes sense in that Ainge did poach Hardy and the favor has to be returned.


No need to overthink it. The Celtics management didn’t. Go with the simplest possible solution first, get more complicated later only IF needed.

Agreed, at least with Mazzulla the players know what to expect and given last seasons success, should be able to count on a system thats similiar to what they were already anticipting.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#132 » by Froob » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:17 pm

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Post#133 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:21 pm

chrisab123 wrote:Why Larranga? Can we not go backwards here. Whats next? Micah Shrewsbury?


I mean, if he was good enough for Lue to want on his staff, I think it’s apparent he’s a pretty good assistant coach. Plus a year of learning from arguably the best coach in the league only helps, I’d assume.
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Post#134 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:51 pm

KG as an assistant suggested yet? It's a yearly tradition like bringing back Rondo.
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Post#135 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:33 pm

I like Larranaga, but the thing that scares me about adding him is not that he's a bad coach, he's definitely a good coach. It's that, it kinda feels like Brad's the shadow coach here.

I figured we would lose some Ime assistants (Damon in particular) after this whole fiasco, but it would almost feel like Brad is coaching again. I liked Brad, but how would the players feel about it?
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Post#136 » by steefP2 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:51 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:KG as an assistant suggested yet? It's a yearly tradition like bringing back Rondo.



Bring back KG and make rondo the assistant :wink:
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Post#137 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:05 pm

Whoever's coaching the offense, I sincerely hope we try to play with more pace. None of the walking up the court and pounding of the ball until there's 12 seconds left in the shot clock even before getting into our first onball action. Part of our undoing in the Finals was letting the Dubs defense get set and making our slowdown deliberate offense become too predictable. Contrast that to Draymond and co. pushing the ball, make, TO, or miss whenever possible. If the excuse is fatigue, improve players conditioning or lengthen the rotation.
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Post#138 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:06 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Whoever's coaching the offense, I sincerely hope we try to play with more pace. None of the walking up the court and pounding of the ball until there's 12 seconds left in the shot clock even before getting into our first onball action. Part of our undoing in the Finals was letting the Dubs defense get set and making our slowdown deliberate offense become too predictable. Contrast that to Draymond and co. pushing the ball, make, TO, or miss whenever possible. If the excuse is fatigue, improve players conditioning or lengthen the rotation.


It’s a point of emphasis, FWIW.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#139 » by Froob » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:37 pm

I'm guessing Clippers say no. It's kinda of late to just lose an assistant coach unless they are getting something back. And not sure a second will do it.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#140 » by Froob » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:43 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:I like Larranaga, but the thing that scares me about adding him is not that he's a bad coach, he's definitely a good coach. It's that, it kinda feels like Brad's the shadow coach here.

I figured we would lose some Ime assistants (Damon in particular) after this whole fiasco, but it would almost feel like Brad is coaching again. I liked Brad, but how would the players feel about it?

If we are trying to avoid an uncomfortable work environment, I'm not sure adding this guy is the move

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