***Official 2022-23 Training Camp/Preseason Thread***

[MrDollarBills]

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[NetsWorld]

Good to finally hear from KD and I agree with his take. KD was right and he seemed very upset that they kept pushing the narrative of Kai's contract negotiations being behind it. KD looks determined and I am more excited this year for this team than I was last year.

[MGrand15]

It looks like media day went as well as it could've gone. I was expecting a circus. KD addressed everything pretty head on. I've been pretty much done with KD but he made a lot of good points about his issues with the team. Kyrie didn't say anything too dumb. Ben was Ben. The group looks like they're in good spirits.

Some notes for anyone that missed it:
TJ Warren and Seth Curry still aren't cleared for 5 on 5. Everyone else is. Both say they're fully healed and feel good but just not cleared yet.

Joe explained that last year he was essentially supposed to get season ending surgery in November but they tried something more minor in hopes that he'd be able to play at 80% later in the season. It didn't work so he had to get the major surgery anyway. He's 100% now though.

[Hello Brooklyn]

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If we actually plan on playing Sharpe then I'm fine with this.

These washed bigs we would get for the minimum all suck anyway.

[JoseRizal]

Good to hear KD's side on the trade request, so I understand him better. It's a wake up call to ownership, management & the coaching staff.

On another note, I'm just glad how Kyrie candidly threw a shade at Nick Friedell. This guy has been ridiculing our team for months and still hasn't recovered from his arrogant claim that KD is 99% gone. Such a f@cking loser...

[TheNetsFan]

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If we actually plan on playing Sharpe then I'm fine with this.

These washed bigs we would get for the minimum all suck anyway.

I'm not sure why this was ever in doubt.

1) Signing or trading for an expensive center would be against Marks MO. He's never paid up at the position.
2) Marks has been very good with finding talent in the first 40 picks of the drafts, especially with bigs.
3) Indications were always that the Nets were high on Sharpe.
4) Marks seemingly always wants rookies to develop in the G-League instead of being with the main team, unless roster needs dictate otherwise. As a sophomore, Sharpe is now poised to join the big boys.

[MrDollarBills]

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If we actually plan on playing Sharpe then I'm fine with this.

These washed bigs we would get for the minimum all suck anyway.

I'm not sure why this was ever in doubt.

1) Signing or trading for an expensive center would be against Marks MO. He's never paid up at the position.
2) Marks has been very good with finding talent in the first 40 picks of the drafts, especially with bigs.
3) Indications we're always that the Nets we're high on Sharpe.
4) Marks seemingly always wants rookies to develop in the G-League instead of being with the main team, unless roster needs dictate otherwise. As a sophomore, Sharpe is now poised to join the big boys.

Sharpe also has shown flashes of being able to hit the long ball. My concern with him is when he gets switched off onto a guard, his footwork defensively hasn't been good.

[Gooner]

Steve Nash is now on the hot seat. KD gave a perfect insight into his decision to make a trade request. Didn't throw anybody under the bus, just constructive criticism. Everybody can see that the Nets don't have a system in place, they just rely on individuals carrying the team, and that's an indictment on coach.

[GTR11]

Steve Nash is now on the hot seat. KD gave a perfect insight into his decision to make a trade request. Didn't throw anybody under the bus, just constructive criticism. Everybody can see that the Nets don't have a system in place, they just rely on individuals carrying the team, and that's an indictment on coach.

That it also ment Marks, meaning Tsai made wrong decisions.

We know Steve Trash wasn't good coach, matter of fact we knew better from day one. We went through it before. We also knew D"Antoni was sitting next to him.

Think before you post. Not that i want to offend you. Dumb azz clowns here leave with assumptions. Than we have to deal with that trash.

[GTR11]

They clearly made one thing obvious. If sh** will go wrong, fingers will pointed at whoever.

We got kyrie on this team. Keep me as skeptical one. If i learned something, i won't trust that dumb fu**.

[GTR11]

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If we actually plan on playing Sharpe then I'm fine with this.

These washed bigs we would get for the minimum all suck anyway.

They got Morris, also they spoke about Ben being 5 a lot. Maybe I'm to pessimistic, just have to see it to believe it.

We also have to sèe how min management will go, rotations, system etc.

Plain simple, i believe Kyrie is Kyrie aka Dunning Kruger Syndrome he is. I believe in dumpsterfire that will explode sooner rather than later.

[Paradise]

It definitely sounded like KD had issues with Marks dealing 7 picks and pieces for Harden but not trying to repair the relationship for the long haul knowing this dude wasn’t held accountable but chooses to keep Kyrie accountable (no extension) and the Steve Nash aspect of it was very obvious.

I also noticed he confirmed without saying it he demanded the trade request to show he wasn’t playing when he voiced displeasured of coaching (Nash and not keeping Udoka), player accountability (Harden, JJ, etc) and direction without picks and assets to make deals and not re-signing Kyrie and trading Harden. He knew he wasn’t going to get traded but needed to make it obvious he was ready to leave.

Nash is not a real coach and it’s seemly more and more obvious the team loved D’antoni and Amare in head of offense staff and seeing no D’antoni and demoted Amare effected Nash as a coach which does confirm he isn’t good at all and has zero leadership skills in the locker room. Vanderpool did not replace whatsoever the relationship that Ime Udoka had (regardless of his weird ass fetish for married employees).

There’s a lot to unpack but it’s obvious that Nash got the final warning and they will fire him quickly the moment we slip up now.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Finally someone says it

We need some toughness!

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[MrDollarBills]

It definitely sounded like KD had issues with Marks dealing 7 picks and pieces for Harden but not trying to repair the relationship for the long haul knowing this dude wasn’t held accountable but chooses to keep Kyrie accountable (no extension) and the Steve Nash aspect of it was very obvious.

I also noticed he confirmed without saying it he demanded the trade request to show he wasn’t playing when he voiced displeasured of coaching (Nash and not keeping Udoka), player accountability (Harden, JJ, etc) and direction without picks and assets to make deals and not re-signing Kyrie and trading Harden. He knew he wasn’t going to get traded but needed to make it obvious he was ready to leave.

Nash is not a real coach and it’s seemly more and more obvious the team loved D’antoni and Amare in head of offense staff and seeing no D’antoni and demoted Amare effected Nash as a coach which does confirm he isn’t good at all and has zero leadership skills in the locker room. Vanderpool did not replace whatsoever the relationship that Ime Udoka had (regardless of his weird ass fetish for married employees).

There’s a lot to unpack but it’s obvious that Nash got the final warning and they will fire him quickly the moment we slip up now.

And it's hard to actually find KD wrong for feeling that way.

I feel like a lot of angst and drama could have been avoided had he aired this out earlier, but whatever. He's in camp, he likes what Marks has done with the roster, so hopefully everyone can focus on hoops and winning.

I have no hope for Nash though. I don't like that KD tried to get Marks fired (thats not his call), but Nash? Pfft. I would have sent Nash packing the moment that ish came out of KD's mouth.

[MrDollarBills]

Finally someone says it

We need some toughness!

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[gigantes]

Steve Nash is now on the hot seat. KD gave a perfect insight into his decision to make a trade request. Didn't throw anybody under the bus, just constructive criticism. Everybody can see that the Nets don't have a system in place, they just rely on individuals carrying the team, and that's an indictment on coach.

Very little that I read from KD impressed me. It seems he managed to stay even-keeled without taking on any real challenges, something completely typical of him.

Specifically, his rationale seemed to be that because the team had some struggles, injuries and bad luck that it justified him making his trade request. Sounds like he completely glossed over Kyrie acting like an idiot about CV19, creating the ripple effect of Harden asking out. Because Durant had an opportunity to act like a leader and try to bring his friend in line, and he chose to ride the bus.

Also, if the Nets barely have a system in place, I think it's mainly *because* of KD&KI, not in spite of them. They want to overhandle and play hero ball, which directly impacts who coaches and who starts at PG. At the best of times it can indeed work, but it's also a handicap to this team, and something that's less effective in the playoffs.

I'm all for positivity, but I don't think these guys have learned the slightest thing from everything up to now, which is why I won't be surprised if they continue to make clueless tweets and create more drama down the line. Not that another pandemic is likely, but then, that wasn't the cause of Kyrie going AWOL three times the season before this, either.

[Rastas]

TJ looks like he needs 2 to 3 months fitness training which is fine.
Team is currently overloaded with offensive weapons and a returning TJ by December could just be a perfect replacement if any those weapons go down for whatever reason.
All the young guys look improved and hungry , all should get opportunities as team is filled with older and injury risk guys.
The new additions are of a decent quality and no way deserve to stand around and let KD and KI iso play between one another , so let's see how those two adjust to a much faster and more team oriented ball team, basically expect both to have lower numbers but with less wear and tear on their bodies.
Ben / Royce / Clax / Kessler / Yuta and a motivated Kev should provide a notable higher level of defence by the Nets , and the number of decent to great 3pt shooters teaming with the best 3pt assister could make Nets games must watch TV.
Ben said Nets was like Philly on Roids - I think there more like Warriors on Roids.
Too much Quality Depth to fail , only Drama and high number of injurys will rob them this season.

[MGrand15]

I think I've gotta be a sucker or a glutton for punishment. Obvious drama aside - I like the makeup of the team. I think the one big question mark we have is whether Ben + Clax can play together without killing our offense. The issue of guarding big centers like Embiid is annoying for sure but manageable if we have everything else together.

We have 5 elite shooters (KD, Kai, Joe, Seth, Patty). O'Neal is a good shooter. Markieff + Warren are respectable at worst. Cam + Edwards + Sumner are question marks with potential.

[MrDollarBills]

I think I've gotta be a sucker or a glutton for punishment. Obvious drama aside - I like the makeup of the team. I think the one big question mark we have is whether Ben + Clax can play together without killing our offense. The issue of guarding big centers like Embiid is annoying for sure but manageable if we have everything else together.

We have 5 elite shooters (KD, Kai, Joe, Seth, Patty). O'Neal is a good shooter. Markieff + Warren are respectable at worst. Cam + Edwards + Sumner are question marks with potential.

Cam has got to take that next step with his three point shot or I just don't see it for him.

But I agree. I like this roster make up. We'll have to see if Nash actually runs a damn system to capitalize it, because there is no way in hell we should be playing 97% ISO ball with the variety of players we have. The offense should be generating open looks REGARDLESS of who is on the floor.

I hate to say it, but KD's logic is sound here. There is zero reason why the Nets can't look like Golden State with the talent we have. Move the ball, attack the lanes, and get back on D.

[MrDollarBills]

Steve Nash is now on the hot seat. KD gave a perfect insight into his decision to make a trade request. Didn't throw anybody under the bus, just constructive criticism. Everybody can see that the Nets don't have a system in place, they just rely on individuals carrying the team, and that's an indictment on coach.

Very little that I read from KD impressed me. It seems he managed to stay even-keeled without taking on any real challenges, something completely typical of him.

Specifically, his rationale seemed to be that because the team had some struggles, injuries and bad luck that it justified him making his trade request. Sounds like he completely glossed over Kyrie acting like an idiot about CV19, creating the ripple effect of Harden asking out. Because Durant had an opportunity to act like a leader and try to bring his friend in line, and he chose to ride the bus.

Also, if the Nets barely have a system in place, I think it's mainly *because* of KD&KI, not in spite of them. They want to overhandle and play hero ball, which directly impacts who coaches and who starts at PG. At the best of times it can indeed work, but it's also a handicap to this team, and something that's less effective in the playoffs.

I'm all for positivity, but I don't think these guys have learned the slightest thing from everything up to now, which is why I won't be surprised if they continue to make clueless tweets and create more drama down the line. Not that another pandemic is likely, but then, that wasn't the cause of Kyrie going AWOL three times the season before this, either.

This season hinges on

1) Health

2) Structure and discipline on both ends.

3) Nash not f*cking everything up

4) Kyrie not sabotaging this team for a third straight season.