2023 NBA Draft

[zimpy27]

I think you have to take Scoot at number 1. Just too good for his age, perimeter player and level-headed.

Wemby you take number 2 and there is a drop now to the others.

Both had huge games

[MotownMadness]

I think you have to take Scoot at number 1. Just too good for his age, perimeter player and level-headed.

Wemby you take number 2 and there is a drop now to the others.

Both had huge games

Scoot looks great but absolutely not, Wembanyama is the consensus #1 easily for me.

[MotownMadness]

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[azcatz11]

I think you have to take Scoot at number 1. Just too good for his age, perimeter player and level-headed.

Wemby you take number 2 and there is a drop now to the others.

Both had huge games

I don’t understand how you can say this when the comparison is Gobert / KD and he has a good shot to be better than both

[yoyoboy]

I've said it for a while, but I would also take Scoot first. His ceiling isn't as insane as Wemby's obviously, but there are just fewer things that can go wrong with Scoot and he still has crazy potential considering how great he is for his age. I mean, in terms of PG prospects, I think you'd have to go pretty far back before finding one who was better. The injury history for guys over ~7'1 is real guys. That can't just be swept under the rug. None of Wemby's immense talent matters if he can't stay on the floor, and up until this point, he's already had some issues with that.

[MotownMadness]

I think you have to take Scoot at number 1. Just too good for his age, perimeter player and level-headed.

Wemby you take number 2 and there is a drop now to the others.

Both had huge games

I don’t understand how you can say this when the comparison is Gobert / KD and he has a good shot to be better than both

Looks like the only thing he wont be great at out the gate is back to the basket scoring. Other then that though hes a absolute freak

[azcatz11]

I've said it for a while, but I would also take Scoot first. His ceiling isn't as insane as Wemby's obviously, but there are just fewer things that can go wrong with Scoot and he still has crazy potential considering how great he is for his age. I mean, in terms of PG prospects, I think you'd have to go pretty far back before finding one who was better. The injury history for guys over ~7'1 is real guys. That can't just be swept under the rug. None of Wemby's immense talent matters if he can't stay on the floor, and up until this point, he's already had some issues with that.

So you’re on the record stating you would never draft a player over 7’1

[zimpy27]

I think you have to take Scoot at number 1. Just too good for his age, perimeter player and level-headed.

Wemby you take number 2 and there is a drop now to the others.

Both had huge games

I don’t understand how you can say this when the comparison is Gobert / KD and he has a good shot to be better than both

He doesn't shoot better than Porzingis and suddenly he is KD? That's too much for me.

He does have Gobert defense potential though. Potential for GOAT defender for sure.

But Wemby is not going to be to the level of Durant as a shooter, playmaker or offensive player.

[MotownMadness]

I've said it for a while, but I would also take Scoot first. His ceiling isn't as insane as Wemby's obviously, but there are just fewer things that can go wrong with Scoot and he still has crazy potential considering how great he is for his age. I mean, in terms of PG prospects, I think you'd have to go pretty far back before finding one who was better. The injury history for guys over ~7'1 is real guys. That can't just be swept under the rug. None of Wemby's immense talent matters if he can't stay on the floor, and up until this point, he's already had some issues with that.

I was hesitant until actually finally getting to watch him. There's no way you dont risk it on that type of talent.

KD has a advantage at his height with his shooting touch but this is just ridiculous to go with him being a elite shot blocker on the other end.

[yoyoboy]

I've said it for a while, but I would also take Scoot first. His ceiling isn't as insane as Wemby's obviously, but there are just fewer things that can go wrong with Scoot and he still has crazy potential considering how great he is for his age. I mean, in terms of PG prospects, I think you'd have to go pretty far back before finding one who was better. The injury history for guys over ~7'1 is real guys. That can't just be swept under the rug. None of Wemby's immense talent matters if he can't stay on the floor, and up until this point, he's already had some issues with that.

So you’re on the record stating you would never draft a player over 7’1

If you want to put words in my mouth, have at it. I said I would take Scoot over Wemby, that's it. I'd take Victor 2nd, so of course I would draft someone above 7'1. But there's obviously more risk involved with someone that tall who already has an injury history by the way, so I'd rather take the more sure thing who also happens to be the best PG prospect we've seen in quite some time.

[Chuck Everett]

I would take Scoot. I don't trust the body of Victor. Same as I didn't trust the body of Chet. Consensus wouldn't mean much to me if the guy is always in street clothes.

[babyjax13]

I've never seen anything like Victor, I'm taking him first. I had the same concerns about body and really like Scoot... but damn. Best center prospect since Shaq, best point guard prospect since Rose. Draft is nuts.

[EMG518]

I think I have to go Scoot at 1. I feel confident the most likely outcome is I would be getting a perennial all-nba guy whom has a long healthy career.

Hard to pass on that.

[BostonCouchGM]

so listen, there was a small window there where I let Wembanyama's injury potential to give Scoot a crack to insert himself into the #1 conversation. That's over. Victor is starting to fill out. It means his body is likely going to be closer to Gobert than Chet Holmgren. A Gobert body but better lateral quickness, hops and much more skilled? Wow. No chance he doesn't go #1. I think several teams will be joining Utah in shamelessly tanking with how good Victor and Scoot are.

He's holmgren, but he's 7'5" with 8'0" wingspan instead of 7'1" with 7'6" wingspan. So taller, longer and a little more filled out with possibly a little more skill - at a younger age.

So yes, He's a freak, he's the #1 pick and we should all just root for him and appreciate him..

then he's NOT Holmgren since he's closer to Gobert's size both in height, length and girth. My point is he's filling out and while last year he was stick thin like Holmgren he's clearly adding weight and slowly approaching Gobert's girth and still hasn't grown into his man body so if he ends up with that type of muscle mass as Gobert, at his superior height, length and skills he's a true unicorn and imho his injury concerns are lessened.

[Duke4life831]

Said this on the GB and Ill repeat it here. This is really feeling like a repeat of 2019.

#1: The freaks that we really have never seen before. We have never seen a physical specimen like Zion and he was so dominant as well. It was impossible not to take him #1. But he also had huge question marks about his body. Is there anyway a body can hold up to what he was doing at that size. Similar to Wemby, we really havent seen anything like him before. But just like Zion, you have to ask yourself, is that body and long skinny legs going to be able to hold up?

#2: You had the freak athletic PG in Ja. Ya great prospect and even if you liked him more over Zion, there was no way you could take him #1 over Zion, just because if both guys hit their ceilings you would look like an idiot for not taking Zion. That kind of feels like Scoot here. Even if you like Scoot more than Wemby for whatever reason, there is no way you could take him #1. Because ya if both players hit their absolute ceilings, youd look dumb on passing on Wemby.

And to be clear this is no shot at Ja's and Scoot's ceilings, its just guys like Zion and Wemby if they were to stay healthy can have truly freakish high ceilings.

[BostonCouchGM]

I am moving Wemby to tier 0, LeBron territory.

If he blows out his knee ACL, still taking him #1. Back or foot, we'll see.

for real. He's in the Kareem, Wilt, Magic, Bird, MJ, Shaq, and Lebron tier as a prospect. The top of the very top in NBA history. I pray he stays healthy and we get to witness him play for the next 20 years.

[zimpy27]

Said this on the GB and Ill repeat it here. This is really feeling like a repeat of 2019.

#1: The freaks that we really have never seen before. We have never seen a physical specimen like Zion and he was so dominant as well. It was impossible not to take him #1. But he also had huge question marks about his body. Is there anyway a body can hold up to what he was doing at that size. Similar to Wemby, we really havent seen anything like him before. But just like Zion, you have to ask yourself, is that body and long skinny legs going to be able to hold up?

#2: You had the freak athletic PG in Ja. Ya great prospect and even if you liked him more over Zion, there was no way you could take him #1 over Zion, just because if both guys hit their ceilings you would look like an idiot for not taking Zion. That kind of feels like Scoot here. Even if you like Scoot more than Wemby for whatever reason, there is no way you could take him #1. Because ya if both players hit their absolute ceilings, youd look dumb on passing on Wemby.

And to be clear this is no shot at Ja's and Scoot's ceilings, its just guys like Zion and Wemby if they were to stay healthy can have truly freakish high ceilings.

Problem is that no one seems to take this in to account. I think it's because no one is thinking like the actual team at this stage. Once we know which team has the number 1 pick I think we will see their fans leaning towards Scoot.

Wemby is great for punters to say yeah he's a great prospect. Then when he invariably gets injured they can talk about how he was the GOAT prospect and the greatest what if.

The truth is that Scoot had an awesome game. Scored similarly and had 9 assists with 1 TO. Had more.rebounds than Wemby too.

[MotownMadness]

Said this on the GB and Ill repeat it here. This is really feeling like a repeat of 2019.

#1: The freaks that we really have never seen before. We have never seen a physical specimen like Zion and he was so dominant as well. It was impossible not to take him #1. But he also had huge question marks about his body. Is there anyway a body can hold up to what he was doing at that size. Similar to Wemby, we really havent seen anything like him before. But just like Zion, you have to ask yourself, is that body and long skinny legs going to be able to hold up?

#2: You had the freak athletic PG in Ja. Ya great prospect and even if you liked him more over Zion, there was no way you could take him #1 over Zion, just because if both guys hit their ceilings you would look like an idiot for not taking Zion. That kind of feels like Scoot here. Even if you like Scoot more than Wemby for whatever reason, there is no way you could take him #1. Because ya if both players hit their absolute ceilings, youd look dumb on passing on Wemby.

And to be clear this is no shot at Ja's and Scoot's ceilings, its just guys like Zion and Wemby if they were to stay healthy can have truly freakish high ceilings.

Problem is that no one seems to take this in to account. I think it's because no one is thinking like the actual team at this stage. Once we know which team has the number 1 pick I think we will see their fans leaning towards Scoot.

Wemby is great for punters to say yeah he's a great prospect. Then when he invariably gets injured they can talk about how he was the GOAT prospect and the greatest what if.

The truth is that Scoot had an awesome game. Scored similarly and had 9 assists with 1 TO. Had more.rebounds than Wemby too.

And Scoots being compared to DRose who everyone was always worried about injuries with the way he drove to the rim (**** happens)

IDK, you sound like you're certain this guy is gonna get hurt or something. He dont look as frail as Chet for example.

I thought Scoot was looking better and his team was dominating that game but then Wembanyama took it to another level and they almost even upset them in a high pressure big game.

[zimpy27]

Said this on the GB and Ill repeat it here. This is really feeling like a repeat of 2019.

#1: The freaks that we really have never seen before. We have never seen a physical specimen like Zion and he was so dominant as well. It was impossible not to take him #1. But he also had huge question marks about his body. Is there anyway a body can hold up to what he was doing at that size. Similar to Wemby, we really havent seen anything like him before. But just like Zion, you have to ask yourself, is that body and long skinny legs going to be able to hold up?

#2: You had the freak athletic PG in Ja. Ya great prospect and even if you liked him more over Zion, there was no way you could take him #1 over Zion, just because if both guys hit their ceilings you would look like an idiot for not taking Zion. That kind of feels like Scoot here. Even if you like Scoot more than Wemby for whatever reason, there is no way you could take him #1. Because ya if both players hit their absolute ceilings, youd look dumb on passing on Wemby.

And to be clear this is no shot at Ja's and Scoot's ceilings, its just guys like Zion and Wemby if they were to stay healthy can have truly freakish high ceilings.

Problem is that no one seems to take this in to account. I think it's because no one is thinking like the actual team at this stage. Once we know which team has the number 1 pick I think we will see their fans leaning towards Scoot.

Wemby is great for punters to say yeah he's a great prospect. Then when he invariably gets injured they can talk about how he was the GOAT prospect and the greatest what if.

The truth is that Scoot had an awesome game. Scored similarly and had 9 assists with 1 TO. Had more.rebounds than Wemby too.

And Scoots being compared to DRose who everyone was always worried about injuries with the way he drove to the rim (**** happens)

IDK, you sound like you're certain this guy is gonna get hurt or something. He dont look as frail as Chet for example.

I thought Scoot was looking better and his team was dominating that game but then Wembanyama took it to another level and they almost even upset them in a high pressure big game.

It's just physics to me.
Long legs are a lever and smaller stouter NBA players are the fulcrum. The mass is coming from his upper body but also the momentum of his movement and momentum of the fulcrum (NBA players hitting his legs). There's a long history of guys his size just being injury riddled. I think Gobert is one of the only exceptions but Rudy moves in a specific way.

Wemby moves like Davis, kind of bouncy/springy movement. He doesn't move like Gobert who keeps his feet low to the floor and uses footwork to move around the key. I can just see it going wrong for Wemby, Not career-ending, I think he will be great. Somewhere between Porzingis and Davis.

Scoot reminds me more of a Ja/CP3 type.

[buzzkilloton]

Even if you expect Vic to have a shorter career on average then other prospects due to injury you still take him one no question. His ceiling is sky high you dont see prospects like this. He actually fits the billing of generational.